2020 Presidential Election thread

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Thu, Mar 5, 2020 12:29 PM
posted by QuakerOats

 

 

 

Schumer should be escorted out of the senate building and investigated, as well as submitting his resignation.

Agreed.  Talking about it like "I'm from Brooklyn and we talk like that" is BS.  Regardless of your politics, you don't threaten a judge - especially if your in the US Senate.  Total disgrace.  

O-Trap Chief Shenanigans Officer
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Thu, Mar 5, 2020 1:24 PM
posted by iclfan2

And down goes Warren. 2 white almost 80 year olds are all that's left. One a crazy socialist, one is losing him mind literally. Woof.

Tusli Gabbard be like:

 

posted by QuakerOats

Gropey Joe is senile.  He is there because the swamp/deep state/establishment needs him there, to hope he wins and then control him as we go back to status quo.  We can only hope that does not happen.

 

Nah.  They've just decided it's "his turn."  Think Mittens in 2012.
 

posted by Spock

Schumer should have a gag order on him.

 

That'd be fucking stupid.  He should, however, be questioned about it, because "we just talk like that" isn't good enough.

Theoretically, he could be meaning they'd try to impeach the judges, though.  It's not like there isn't a precedent, and that IS a means of ousting a judge.
 

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

LOL at Trump followers parroting the nicknames he assigns.  

 

I've noticed that this happens a lot.  Democrats come up with their own and parrot them as well (remember 'Drumpf'?), but it's funny to hear them come from the actual sitting president's own statements.
 

posted by QuakerOats

Schumer should be escorted out of the senate building and investigated, as well as submitting his resignation.

Investigated, absolutely.

 

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Thu, Mar 5, 2020 1:33 PM

 

A guy from Toledo was sentenced for a threat made on facebook against AOC.  Chuck U. Schumer deserves similar medicine. “No one is above the law”, right.

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Thu, Mar 5, 2020 1:36 PM
posted by QuakerOats

Watching//hearing the montages of Biden’s gaffes is damn hilarious.

 

Of course, if Trump said those things they would be ‘lies’. 

 

Gropey Joe is senile.  He is there because the swamp/deep state/establishment needs him there, to hope he wins and then control him as we go back to status quo.  We can only hope that does not happen.

I'm not sure if you are referring to Biden or Trump.

Trump says stupid shit all the time. Not only lies or falsehoods, but just mispronouncing shit all the time. Him and Joe are just like that. 

You really want to talk about a gropey guy? Your dude bragged on tape about grabbing women....so I wouldn't use that one. 

Joe isn't perfect by any means. 

I think people would support  Biden over Trump because they like him and think Trump is an asshole. I think Biden's argument about a return to decency may work. 

Now, it will be interesting to see the polls in those swing states over the next few weeks between Biden and Trump. I was looking at some state polls over at Cook Political report and 270 to win and Biden is leading Trump in PA, MI, and its basically tied in WI and AZ. 

gut Senior Member
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Thu, Mar 5, 2020 1:44 PM
posted by O-Trap

Theoretically, he could be meaning they'd try to impeach the judges, though.  It's not like there isn't a precedent, and that IS a means of ousting a judge.

Yes, you can impeach a judge.  However, Schumer appears to be threatening impeachment, as a weapon, if he disagrees with a ruling.  Where does he get off constantly complaining about Trump abusing power, and then say that?

Use the DOJ to spy on a Republican campaign?  No big deal.  Impeachment without a crime?  It's the right thing to do.  Hey, let's stack the SCOTUS!  And let's end the filibuster!  Do an end-around the electoral college!   But but but....Trump is a fascist, and the real threat to our democracy?

O-Trap Chief Shenanigans Officer
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Thu, Mar 5, 2020 2:26 PM
posted by gut

Yes, you can impeach a judge.  However, Schumer appears to be threatening impeachment, as a weapon, if he disagrees with a ruling.  Where does he get off constantly complaining about Trump abusing power, and then say that?

Use the DOJ to spy on a Republican campaign?  No big deal.  Impeachment without a crime?  It's the right thing to do.  Hey, let's stack the SCOTUS!  And let's end the filibuster!  Do an end-around the electoral college!   But but but....Trump is a fascist, and the real threat to our democracy?

I'm not defending him, for the record.  I've just seen people talking about treating him like he threatened their lives, and I think it's safe to pump the brakes on that.

majorspark Senior Member
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Thu, Mar 5, 2020 3:01 PM
Use the DOJ to spy on a Republican campaign?  No big deal.  Impeachment without a crime?  It's the right thing to do.  Hey, let's stack the SCOTUS!  And let's end the filibuster!  Do an end-around the electoral college!   But but but....Trump is a fascist, and the real threat to our democracy?

Schumer's the guy who warned the President that the intelligence agencies have "six ways from Sunday to get back at you".  These guys love the idea of weaponizing government against their political enemies.

majorspark Senior Member
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Thu, Mar 5, 2020 3:08 PM
posted by O-Trap

I'm not defending him, for the record.  I've just seen people talking about treating him like he threatened their lives, and I think it's safe to pump the brakes on that.

Most people know exactly what he was threatening.  And it was not their lives.  But Democrats have been telling us that rhetoric needs toned down and simple common words used in political discourse like "target", "crosshairs", or the like could inspire the unhinges nutjob to take that as a literal order.

gut Senior Member
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Thu, Mar 5, 2020 3:10 PM
posted by O-Trap

I'm not defending him, for the record.  I've just seen people talking about treating him like he threatened their lives, and I think it's safe to pump the brakes on that.

I get it.  I think he was threatening impeachment, or perhaps stacking the SCOTUS.  In either event, those things are arguably far bigger abuses of power than anything Trump has done.  Does that game end any other way than one that nullifies or renders the courts virtually impotent?  The Constitution intended it to be an equal branch, so anyone who would take the actions Schumer appears to be suggesting should be removed from office.  Words I don't think rise to that level, but censure would be appropriate.

There's hidden fascism growing on the left that's being justified as necessary because the ignorant/uneducated/bigoted/backward right-wing is keeping the country from moving forward.  As usual, they don't fucking think and don't appear to grasp the consequences of the things they're proposing.

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Thu, Mar 5, 2020 3:11 PM
posted by majorspark

Most people know exactly what he was threatening.  And it was not their lives.  But Democrats have been telling us that rhetoric needs toned down and simple common words used in political discourse like "target", "crosshairs", or the like could inspire the unhinges nutjob to take that as a literal order.

Agreed. It was so fucking dumb what he said. Especially as the Ds were also roasting Trump just last week for his remarks about the court. 

Also, the D front runner, Biden, is trying to make a play about returning to decency....

 

gut Senior Member
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Thu, Mar 5, 2020 3:23 PM
posted by majorspark

Schumer's the guy who warned the President that the intelligence agencies have "six ways from Sunday to get back at you".  These guys love the idea of weaponizing government against their political enemies.

I've often said what they really hate about Trump is he doesn't cower to their bullshit - when the Left calls you racist or misogynist, you're supposed to back down and apologize.  But even worse, Trump plays their same game, and he's often better at it.

Schumer makes comments about the court.  Obama made comments.  Trump does it - OMG impeach him for abuse of power!!!

I always laugh at how Bill Maher whines that "Dems need to fight dirty....They don't do it enough".  And I wonder what planet he's on, because it's pretty much been the exact opposite.  And, again, the real threat the Left sees with Trump is if Republicans start adopting his tactics and it becomes a fair fight....

majorspark Senior Member
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Thu, Mar 5, 2020 3:29 PM
posted by gut

I've often said what they really hate about Trump is he doesn't cower to their bullshit - when the Left calls you racist or misogynist, you're supposed to back down and apologize....

Like Trent Lott who held the same position as Schumer did and made some off comments at Strom Thurmond's 100yr birthday party.  He folded like a cheap lawn chair.  You are 100% right on this.

majorspark Senior Member
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Thu, Mar 5, 2020 3:34 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Also, the D front runner, Biden, is trying to make a play about returning to decency....

 

Will Biden be condemning Schumer's comments?  Will he demand some sort of action be taken?  Will he go to Schumer in private and ask him to gracefully want to spend more time with his family?  If the answer is none of the above then you are right returning to decency is nothing more than a play.

O-Trap Chief Shenanigans Officer
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Thu, Mar 5, 2020 3:36 PM
posted by QuakerOats

 

A guy from Toledo was sentenced for a threat made on facebook against AOC.  Chuck U. Schumer deserves similar medicine. “No one is above the law”, right.

That a person was sentenced for an idle threat made on Facebook is absurd (which I'm sure you'd agree with).  So why are you supporting the same idea, just because it happens to be someone you loathe politically?  Better instead to point out how ridiculous it is in both cases and be ideologically consistent.
 

posted by majorspark

Most people know exactly what he was threatening.  And it was not their lives.  But Democrats have been telling us that rhetoric needs toned down and simple common words used in political discourse like "target", "crosshairs", or the like could inspire the unhinges nutjob to take that as a literal order.

That's because they're ridiculous.  I'd think those of us who aren't in that camp should aim to be a little more unclenched.
 

posted by gut

I get it.  I think he was threatening impeachment, or perhaps stacking the SCOTUS.  In either event, those things are arguably far bigger abuses of power than anything Trump has done.  Does that game end any other way than one that nullifies or renders the courts virtually impotent?  The Constitution intended it to be an equal branch, so anyone who would take the actions Schumer appears to be suggesting should be removed from office.  Words I don't think rise to that level, but censure would be appropriate.

There's hidden fascism growing on the left that's being justified as necessary because the ignorant/uneducated/bigoted/backward right-wing is keeping the country from moving forward.  As usual, they don't fucking think and don't appear to grasp the consequences of the things they're proposing.

Oh, those things are far bigger abuses indeed.  As you said, it's fascism to combat the lack of progress.  It's precisely what we saw when they were suddenly all in support of the use of the EO to bludgeon through the ACA.

Of course, they'd forget that and call using an EO a gross abuse of power if it were used for something they didn't like.

It just perpetuates the idea that there's no such thing as too much power as long as the office is held by 'the right person'.
 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Agreed. It was so fucking dumb what he said. Especially as the Ds were also roasting Trump just last week for his remarks about the court. 

Also, the D front runner, Biden, is trying to make a play about returning to decency....

Oh sweet Moses!

A return to decency ...

... brought to you by the guy who uncomfortably touches and smells people on stage, in front of the cameras.

 

gut Senior Member
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Thu, Mar 5, 2020 3:45 PM
posted by majorspark

Will Biden be condemning Schumer's comments? 

Speaking of Biden, I'm starting to think he would resign soon after taking office.  I don't know if that was always the plan, but he seems to be slipping (and fairly quickly).

I'm sorry, but Jill Biden saying "you're ok you're ok"....I think most people associate those words and tone with that commonly used to reassure someone of diminished capacity.  Yeah, yeah I'm sure that's a right-wing talking point, but it happens to be true.

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Thu, Mar 5, 2020 3:55 PM
posted by O-Trap


 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Agreed. It was so fucking dumb what he said. Especially as the Ds were also roasting Trump just last week for his remarks about the court. 

Also, the D front runner, Biden, is trying to make a play about returning to decency....

Oh sweet Moses!

A return to decency ...

... brought to you by the guy who uncomfortably touches and smells people on stage, in front of the cameras.

 

LOL. And from the guy who's wife will throw down to protect her man. 

majorspark Senior Member
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Thu, Mar 5, 2020 3:57 PM

Also where is the media in all this?  When Trump makes a dumbass comment they make their rounds to all the Republicans for comment.  Where is Romney?  What is his take?

majorspark Senior Member
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Thu, Mar 5, 2020 4:03 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

LOL. And from the guy who's wife will throw down to protect her man. 

Image result for jill biden protects husband

gut Senior Member
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Thu, Mar 5, 2020 4:08 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

LOL. And from the guy who's wife will throw down to protect her man. 

She did handle that like a real pro.

gut Senior Member
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Thu, Mar 5, 2020 4:10 PM

On a related note, will Sanders really take the gloves off to go after the nomination?  Or has he already been bought off?

But, LOL, the Dems are down to a guy who may be in the early stages of dementia, vs. the guy who just had a heart attack.

 

Over/under that their medical records suddenly end-up in the same vault with Trump's tax returns?

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