2020 Presidential Election thread

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  • Tue, Apr 16, 2019 7:30 AM
    posted by SportsAndLady

    http://www.ontheissues.org/Pete_Buttigieg.htm

    I wouldn’t vote for him, and I know most on here will hate him. Supports green new deal, gun reform, and Medicare for all. Also wants electoral college eliminated. Not a good candidate for the OC. Lol

    Sounds like the OC believes in the Constitution, man these posters are morons and suck balls. 

    Tue, Apr 16, 2019 7:51 AM
    posted by jmog

    Sounds like the OC believes in the Constitution, man these posters are morons and suck balls. 

    Are you that miserable IRL, too?

    Tue, Apr 16, 2019 9:14 AM
    posted by SportsAndLady

    Are you that miserable IRL, too?

    Quoted for irony.

    Tue, Apr 16, 2019 9:26 AM
    posted by CenterBHSFan

    So here is where the democrats are polling at right now, if you choose to buy into it (really early to be even somewhat accurate I guess)

     

    John F. Kennedy is spinning in his grave.

    Tue, Apr 16, 2019 9:54 AM
    posted by QuakerOats

     

    John F. Kennedy is spinning in his grave.

    Hell Barack and Clinton are shaking their heads.  They really messed this party up

    Tue, Apr 16, 2019 11:52 AM
    posted by Spock

    unreal the amount of financial waste that comes with all these windbags.

    Between Jeb and HC they spent $500,000,000 and didnt beat DT.  These ass clowns arent coming close

    HC spent close to $1.5B alone to beat DT.  

    posted by SportsAndLady

    Wouldn’t be surprised if Pete B moved up. He seems to have a huge head of steam lately. And isn’t a complete moron. 

     

    He is trending, but I predict he will finish 4th at best.  He once said all lives matter, which is EXTREMELY problematic.

    posted by SportsAndLady

    http://www.ontheissues.org/Pete_Buttigieg.htm

    I wouldn’t vote for him, and I know most on here will hate him. Supports green new deal, gun reform, and Medicare for all. Also wants electoral college eliminated. Not a good candidate for the OC. Lol

     

    Forget all the other dumb shit, if anyone legitimately supports the green deal they need to be shot.

    posted by gut

    To me, that's some of the funniest bullshit coming from the left.  Get rid of the electoral college because it's unfair, but only last year did they strip super delegates role in nominating their Presidential candidate.  However, the rest of that nominating process uses as a significant factor - wait for it - the electoral college.

    But it's even MORE unfair than that.  The Dems assign delegates to states based 50% on electoral votes for that states, and 50% based on essentially how many people in that state vote for the Dem candidate.  In other words, the more consistently bluer the state the MORE Dems count that vote in their nomination process.

    It's obvious to everyone that the electoral college issue is purely about winning elections, on both sides.  It has nothing to do with fairness.  But someone can support the EC purely on non-partisan grounds: it helps guard against state rights being trampled by a simple national majority/plurality.


    I said this before, but it's incredible how many people don't understand basic civics and the purpose of the EC.  Not to mention the fact we aren't a true democracy.  Our founding fathers did their research and saw how a 100% democracy completely derailed ancient Greece.  As otrap mentioned, if anything the EC should be reformed, not abolished.  It's also interesting to see the left speak in absolutes as they always do. Even if we abolished the EC, do they think this will always be in their favor?  Conservatives are outbreeding liberals and Gen Z allegeldy is leaning conservative. The same group that cries disenfranchisement with voter ID, somehow can't see the irony of a select few bubble cities making decisions for the rest of the country.

     

    Tue, Apr 16, 2019 11:54 AM

    BTW, I will give Bernie some credit for have the balls to go onto FOX News for a townhall, even though they gave him a Bernie friendly crowd.  It's not often a Democrat plays an "away" game.  With that being said, whoever told Bernie this was a good idea should be fired.  The GOP has plenty of clips they will be playing if Bernie ends up winning the primary. 

    Tue, Apr 16, 2019 12:04 PM
    posted by like_that

    I said this before, but it's incredible how many people don't understand basic civics and the purpose of the EC.

    It's going to be a clown show.  Apparently, if no one gets a majority of delegates (which is very likely, given the Dem nomination process), then Super Delegates are going to end-up nominating the winner (even under their new rules).  The party of "every vote should count" is going to have 800 insiders choose its nominee.

    Tue, Apr 16, 2019 12:11 PM
    posted by gut

    It's going to be a clown show.  Apparently, if no one gets a majority of delegates (which is very likely, given the Dem nomination process), then Super Delegates are going to end-up nominating the winner (even under their new rules).  The party of "every vote should count" is going to have 800 insiders choose its nominee.

    lol, I didn't know this.  If nobody gets a majority, Biden will 100% be the candidate.  Book it.

    Tue, Apr 16, 2019 12:16 PM
    posted by like_that

    lol, I didn't know this.  If nobody gets a majority, Biden will 100% be the candidate.  Book it.

    The insiders would most likely choose a candidate they believe can win.

    I have no idea if Bernie could beat Trump, but I don't think he can.  But if Bernie gets a plurality and the Super Delegates tip the scales to someone else, it will be a full-on revolt in that party.  And when the Bernie supporters take their ball and go home, it will hand an easy victory to Trump.

    Tue, Apr 16, 2019 12:30 PM

    We should have seen if Bernie could beat trump last election, but the shady dems put a stop to that. I’ll never understand how the dem’s didn’t take more heat for practically admitting (via hacked emails, sure, but still...) they rigged the primary for Hillary to win.  

    Tue, Apr 16, 2019 1:28 PM
    posted by gut

    The insiders would most likely choose a candidate they believe can win.

    I have no idea if Bernie could beat Trump, but I don't think he can.  But if Bernie gets a plurality and the Super Delegates tip the scales to someone else, it will be a full-on revolt in that party.  And when the Bernie supporters take their ball and go home, it will hand an easy victory to Trump.

    I think Biden is their only shot to beat Trump amongst their current crop of candidates.  A Biden/Beto ticket would be favored to win imo.

    posted by SportsAndLady

    We should have seen if Bernie could beat trump last election, but the shady dems put a stop to that. I’ll never understand how the dem’s didn’t take more heat for practically admitting (via hacked emails, sure, but still...) they rigged the primary for Hillary to win.  


    This, but I don't think it would have been close.  There were a lot of people who silented voted for Trump over Clinton in 2016 and there is no doubt there would be more of those silent votes if Bernie is the candidate threatening everything. 

     

    Tue, Apr 16, 2019 1:29 PM
    posted by like_that

    BTW, I will give Bernie some credit for have the balls to go onto FOX News for a townhall, even though they gave him a Bernie friendly crowd.  It's not often a Democrat plays an "away" game.  With that being said, whoever told Bernie this was a good idea should be fired.  The GOP has plenty of clips they will be playing if Bernie ends up winning the primary. 

    2 things at play:

     

    1.  Bernie didnt really answer any questions.  Just deflected and changed the topics.

    2.  Fox knows what they are doing....they want Bernie to win so they are giving him the press.  THere is no way this country elects a socialist.

    Tue, Apr 16, 2019 5:55 PM
    posted by Spock

    2.  Fox knows what they are doing....they want Bernie to win so they are giving him the press.  THere is no way this country elects a socialist.

    Pretty sure Fox is inviting everyone.  They've already had Schultz, maybe Corey Booker and one or two others.

     

    Tue, Apr 16, 2019 6:02 PM
    posted by gut

    Pretty sure Fox is inviting everyone.  They've already had Schultz, maybe Corey Booker and one or two others.

     

    Nah man. Fox News is super smart. They know what they’re doing! 

    Tue, Apr 16, 2019 6:04 PM
    posted by like_that

    ...but I don't think it would have been close.  There were a lot of people who silented voted for Trump over Clinton in 2016 and there is no doubt there would be more of those silent votes if Bernie is the candidate threatening everything.

    Who knows.  No one seriously thought Trump would win the nomination, much less the election.  It really is about turnout, because 80% of the country will dutifully pull the lever for whomever has the R or D next to their name on the ballot.  Much more enthusiasm for Bernie than Hillary, and that could have been the difference.

    The average voter is almost totally ignorant, and with the direction this country is going expect an uptick in dumbasses getting elected.  Most people really don't bother to learn much about the issues or the candidates - they already know what letter they will be voting for.

    On the plus side, as all this further divides and polarizes the country, maybe nothing will actually get done.  The ACA is literally the last of Obama's legacy with respect to policy, and it won't be much different for Trump when the next POTUS reverses his stuff.  Bernie can get elected, waive his hands around, but whatever he manages to accomplish probably won't stick.

     

    Tue, Apr 16, 2019 6:12 PM

    If Dems do nominate Bernie, it could be VERY interesting for Schultz.  Not hard to imagine him gaining a plurality of votes against those two clowns.

    And then the incoming House picks the POTUS (assuming the EC doesn't decide to just give Schultz electoral votes to Trump or Bernie).  Just imagine the nuclear meltdown from the left, or the right, if the House makes the 3rd place candidate POTUS!

    Tue, Apr 16, 2019 7:34 PM

    I don't like Bernie Sanders and will buy nothing that he sells. However, I think it was a brilliant move on his part to go to FOX and do the townhall. He's already got his fanbase, the people who voted for Trump once the DNC rigged the election and now he's trying to reach out to those FOX viewers who want no parts of Trump. If I were in his shoes, I'd do the same thing. He's catching seven kinds of hell for it though amongst the 'democratic socialists'. Apparently, they don't really want to win, they just want to throw tantrums.

    Tue, Apr 16, 2019 7:34 PM

    Has anyone mentioned that Bill Weld is going to primary Trump?  I figured the media would be all over this news. 

    Tue, Apr 16, 2019 7:36 PM
    posted by like_that

    Has anyone mentioned that Bill Weld is going to primary Trump?  

    Most people: Who?

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