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Daisy1519
Posts: 74
Feb 8, 2011 7:17pm
LowRider;670542 wrote:Everything was approved on the information that was submitted. Yes I believe that. But after finding that the information that was submitted was not true then eligibility is revoked. Theres more then one thing that was not completed.........each and every one of the things alone is cause enough to lose eligibility. He is in violation of more then one thing. I believe at the time the Superintendants signed affidavits they believed everything was in order. Facts are facts 1_Beast and the fact is his wife didnt change her license, her voter registration, they have kids enrolled in 2 different schools yet no one is enrolled as an "open enrollment" so somewhere some how kids are going to a school in a district they do not live in.....and the list goes on.
Perfectly said! Mr Nelson should be saying, oh crap I really messed this up! How can I fix it? And I'm sorry that my actions have made my childrens hopes of going to state impossible! Instead hes going to fight town hall, attack the citizens of Tuslaw, and try to dismantle the OHSAA. Everybody handles adversity differently!
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buckeyegirl
Posts: 9
Feb 8, 2011 7:20pm
As a mother of a wrestler this thread is depressing. I hope all the "adults" who are stirring this pot take a step back and reflect on their actions. I have no dog in this fight but I've been horrified by what I've seen take place in this thread. These are two boys who are caught in the middle of an adult grudge match. Shame on both sides.
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Daisy1519
Posts: 74
Feb 8, 2011 7:30pm
1_beast;670388 wrote:During the hearing, Ms Debbie Moore CONFIRMED she had misunderstood and made a mistake, this is documented. She Clearly stated had she known The Nelsons were NOT divorced, she would have NEVER made the ineligible ruling. The Stance The OHSAA took was to eliminate and unjustly NOT address the ANONYMOUS packet, if the ANONYMOUS packet was addressed, the hearing would be abrublty ended.
Someone stated "We do not know what was in the ANONYMOUS packet", this is a farce as the packet was delivered to Mr Nelsons Lawyers shortly after the close of business hours on Thursday, 14.5 hours prior to the hearing (which is actually quite hilarious when they Nelsons had to have their Defense prepared without any underlying evidence to defend against, The Nelsons were demanded to have their Def in by Wednesday). There was absolute Anonymity, no pictures, video, affidavits, names and the dates were WRONG, citing dates in September, The Move didnt take place until October.... The Nelsons defense packets contained names, dates, pictures affidavits, mail, drivers licenses...etc. AGAIN...Packets were essentially irrelevant.
Waynedale Administration on a sworn afffidavit confirmed 14/14? home visits/checks as well as 4/4 bed checks. Were essentially called liars.
Last year OHSAA took the power from Superintendants to have safety and welfare and health issues, upon stripping the Sups of this right/job, The OHSAA did not create their own board of members to address such problems, therefore leaving the safety and welfare concerns on a blind eye. The Laws and Bylaws have been wrote to the extent that a group of Professional Administrators/Lawyers must be inept in their comprehension to decipher the actual definitions of the written expectations.
At the conclusion of the teleconferance, The Lawyers, Administration and Nelson Family were so convinced by the overwelming positive evidence in THEIR packet vs the microscopic illegally obtained information in the ANONYMOUS pcaket...it appearred to be an open and close hearing and the Twins would be re-instated.
First off Debbie Moore isn't on the board to vote, let alone decide the twins fate! She is a document preparer/reviewer! secondly, I'm of average intelligence and read the bypass today and had no problems understanding them!
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Daisy1519
Posts: 74
Feb 8, 2011 7:37pm
Daisy1519;670720 wrote:First off Debbie Moore isn't on the board to vote, let alone decide the twins fate! She is a document preparer/reviewer! secondly, I'm of average intelligence and read the bypass today and had no problems understanding them!
*bylaws, not bypass. Stupid spell check!
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Ally Cat
Posts: 16
Feb 8, 2011 8:01pm
Call your local TV station and report this!!!
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Ally Cat
Posts: 16
Feb 8, 2011 8:02pm
You might get on goodmorning america.

1_beast
Posts: 5,642
Feb 8, 2011 8:06pm
Daisy1519;670720 wrote:First off Debbie Moore isn't on the board to vote, let alone decide the twins fate! She is a document preparer/reviewer! secondly, I'm of average intelligence and read the bypass today and had no problems understanding them!
Think what you will, BUT, Ms Moore accepted the package, made the decision. Ms Moore WAS in fact put on a medical leave of absence shortly after the tele-conferance was agreed upon. She returned back the day of the haering and was, in fact present for the meeting.
I may be wrong on some points here and there, however...the things i have stated are FACTS and I will stand by them. Waynedale has documented information pertaining to/from Ms Debbie Moore. She was also late signing in to the conferance as noted in the meeting minutes. I have non reason to lie. Im only putting out FACTS.
Shes has been called a clerk, you are calling her a document preparer, The OHSAA website says she is Associate Commissioner.
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Daisy1519
Posts: 74
Feb 8, 2011 8:42pm
What decision are you talking about? Debbie Moore is an adminastrator. She may have made the recommendation to the "board of directors" to deem the Nelsons ineligible, it wasn't a one person decision is all I'm trying to say. The board makes the decisions. The board wasn't scheduled to meet until the 17th of this month, but this situation was special so they moved the meeting up.
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LowRider
Posts: 12
Feb 8, 2011 8:54pm
1_beast I believe what you are saying as to who was at the meeting and when they showed up and went on medical leave ....etc etc etc. Facts....ok yeah lets go with that.. Now answer just a couple questions.... we will not go into allllll of the issues . Do the Nelsons have children going to school in 2 different school districts and if so is anyone open enrolled???? I believe the answer to this question is YES - kids going to 2 different schools NO -no one is open enrolled. So even if there is a secret packet and Ms. Moore accepted it and made decisions....it still goes back to.....they are not eligible for SOOO MANY DIFFERENT REASONS. The secret packet is a very small portion of the over all picture. As well as what Ms. Moore did. This is as simple as black and white..........License changed self and spouse- CHECK Voter Registration changed self and spouse - CHECK No longer own property, live or reside at any time in previous school district - CHECK Employer of both self and spouse have been notified of address change - CHECK Both self and spouse has either sold all of the personal property that had been situated at the previous address and or moved all such personal property to the current resident address NONE of the personal property remains at the previous address CHECK ......etc etc. If you cant go down the list and cross them ALL off then you have not done what is required. Its BLACK AND WHITE.....its either DONE OR NOT ....no matter what was in the packet if everything is not complete your not eligible. My family did it the right way......and I did what was required.......OHSAA sure better make sure the next guy does as well. My family didnt take any short cuts. Again...I can not stress enough how horrible this has to be for those boys but Mr. Nelson has taught them a life lesson I hope they really learn from. Do it the right way the first time and save yourself some trouble and definate heartache.
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Daisy1519
Posts: 74
Feb 8, 2011 9:08pm
LowRider;670831 wrote:1_beast I believe what you are saying as to who was at the meeting and when they showed up and went on medical leave ....etc etc etc. Facts....ok yeah lets go with that.. Now answer just a couple questions.... we will not go into allllll of the issues . Do the Nelsons have children going to school in 2 different school districts and if so is anyone open enrolled???? I believe the answer to this question is YES - kids going to 2 different schools NO -no one is open enrolled. So even if there is a secret packet and Ms. Moore accepted it and made decisions....it still goes back to.....they are not eligible for SOOO MANY DIFFERENT REASONS. The secret packet is a very small portion of the over all picture. As well as what Ms. Moore did. This is as simple as black and white..........License changed self and spouse- CHECK Voter Registration changed self and spouse - CHECK No longer own property, live or reside at any time in previous school district - CHECK Employer of both self and spouse have been notified of address change - CHECK Both self and spouse has either sold all of the personal property that had been situated at the previous address and or moved all such personal property to the current resident address NONE of the personal property remains at the previous address CHECK ......etc etc. If you cant go down the list and cross them ALL off then you have not done what is required. Its BLACK AND WHITE.....its either DONE OR NOT ....no matter what was in the packet if everything is not complete your not eligible. My family did it the right way......and I did what was required.......OHSAA sure better make sure the next guy does as well. My family didnt take any short cuts. Again...I can not stress enough how horrible this has to be for those boys but Mr. Nelson has taught them a life lesson I hope they really learn from. Do it the right way the first time and save yourself some trouble and definate heartache.
Very well put low rider! It is very black and white. If you don't follow the rules, bad things happen!
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Truth
Posts: 30
Feb 8, 2011 9:19pm
LowRider;670831 wrote:1_beast I believe what you are saying as to who was at the meeting and when they showed up and went on medical leave ....etc etc etc. Facts....ok yeah lets go with that.. Now answer just a couple questions.... we will not go into allllll of the issues . Do the Nelsons have children going to school in 2 different school districts and if so is anyone open enrolled???? I believe the answer to this question is YES - kids going to 2 different schools NO -no one is open enrolled. So even if there is a secret packet and Ms. Moore accepted it and made decisions....it still goes back to.....they are not eligible for SOOO MANY DIFFERENT REASONS. The secret packet is a very small portion of the over all picture. As well as what Ms. Moore did. This is as simple as black and white..........License changed self and spouse- CHECK Voter Registration changed self and spouse - CHECK No longer own property, live or reside at any time in previous school district - CHECK Employer of both self and spouse have been notified of address change - CHECK Both self and spouse has either sold all of the personal property that had been situated at the previous address and or moved all such personal property to the current resident address NONE of the personal property remains at the previous address CHECK ......etc etc. If you cant go down the list and cross them ALL off then you have not done what is required. Its BLACK AND WHITE.....its either DONE OR NOT ....no matter what was in the packet if everything is not complete your not eligible. My family did it the right way......and I did what was required.......OHSAA sure better make sure the next guy does as well. My family didnt take any short cuts. Again...I can not stress enough how horrible this has to be for those boys but Mr. Nelson has taught them a life lesson I hope they really learn from. Do it the right way the first time and save yourself some trouble and definate heartache.
Good post, one fact that nobody has brought up is that mr nelson is in personal bankruptcy. your primary residence is protected under bankruptcy, what did he have listed for his primary residence. My guess would be the tuslaw property
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Daisy1519
Posts: 74
Feb 8, 2011 9:42pm
That was a cheap shot Truth!