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Bitterrunner-up
Posts: 632
Feb 6, 2011 12:38pm
This thread is the gift that keeps on giving.

falcon81
Posts: 571
Feb 6, 2011 12:46pm
When our farce hearing was over every educated person that sat in on the hearing overwhelmingly believed we met every criteria for a move with over 20 affidavits of proof on every point and expected a Eligibility finding based on facts and witnesses. Zero evidence was provided to prove otherwise with Zero witnesses. The Waynedale Superintendent , a man with a doctorate is in total belief especially now with the hearing there is no doubt we fulfilled the By-laws and there was zero fraud on our application along with my attorney's belief! It never mattered , the Hearing was a SHAM! We sir followed every rule and that was never proven otherwise, they simply choose to do what they do , they are Governed by No one.LowRider;666372 wrote:Its only dysfunctional when you dont follow the rules. My spouse and I made the decision to move our son from one school district to another and to insure that he was eligible to wrestle we did what was required........plain and simple. We had investigations by the OHSAA, we had people from our old school district try to report they did not believe we had moved..........in the end......we had done what was necessary to meet ALL requirements so that our son would not be ineligible. Good grief.........as a parent that followed the rules I have a hard time feeling sympathetic for the man that is spouting off about how much money he has and how much he pays in taxes in Tuslaw. You have the funds....you should have done what needed to be done right if you really wanted your kids to wrestle for Waynedale. Too bad for the boys that dont get to wrestle......by no fault of their own.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Feb 6, 2011 12:47pm
Man , has doing what's best for your kids taken a back seat in your actions, whether you (or the kids) recognize it or not.falcon81;666374 wrote:That would be convenient for the Tuslaw wrestlers in two weight classes and those that would like to stop Waynedale from being a State championship contender next year. Yes that would be very nice for the OHSAA. Very nice to the neighborhood watch group for the concerned athletic group of hooded Tuslaw citizens. Its funny but hooded lynching's with no trail by unidentified mobs using coaches clubs as their venue outside the law is still alive and well in AMERICA!
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CountingLights
Posts: 93
Feb 6, 2011 12:53pm
falcon81;666273 wrote:When My Lawyers educated me on how OHSAA worked and that they are a Private club..Well it shocked me! When my Lawyers educated me that the laws of the United State of America do not apply and can not be used in the Hearing ...I was shocked! When I was told MY own Twins , My Wife and I would not get to address our accusers or Jury ..I was shocked!! This is a SHAM!! The OHSAA will not shut me up because I am afraid what you will do to my childen!! I was shocked when My attorney's told me if we go to court next week the OHSAA may increase the penalty on the twins...That is beyond my belief that that can even be threatened or suggested!!!!
I'am only one man....I plead with every Veteran, Father, businessman, Coach, Fan, Mother ....Please call the OHSAA.....flood their circuit boards and tell them you want your Superintends rights back... That rule alone changed back and my twins would be wrestling right now!!!!! Call you congressman if you have a relationship with him.....it may be to late for my sons but lets instill some common sense in the system before more MODEL STUDENT ATHLETES with perfect records in and out of school are punished unjustly!!!
I think the point of some of these folks is that you are not aiding your cause with these posts. Moreover, relating here what your lawyers are telling you in confidence, I am sure your lawyers would not want the attorney-client relationship breached on a public forum such as this, can be harmful to any further actions you may take on behalf of your sons. This breach of confidence on your part may subject you to further questioning if/when this issue ever arises again. As a bit of friendly advice, since I feel badly for your boys, I'd leave out of future posts anything your lawyers relate to you unless such disclosure is authorized. My .02.
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truefan
Posts: 18
Feb 6, 2011 12:59pm
I have been thinking about this for awhile...could this actually be Waynedale parents that collected all the evidence against you that are really upset your sons came into their district illegally to wrestle and put their sons on the sidelines? You know what would happen if the shoe were on the other foot regarding your kids (if they weren't as good as they apparently are).
Your picture holding the guns, really? Are you trying to put fear into people that speak against you? Don't think that will work! People can sign "concerned citizens" or any other name they wish to use when or if they want to. You blame your last school district for all your problems but who knows!
In an earlier post you state you only need to sleep 51% in Waynedale, why would they use that percentage if you have moved into a house in Waynedale, wherelse would you sleep if your entire family is sleeping there. I sleep in my residence 100% since I only have one residence. How about you?
Your picture holding the guns, really? Are you trying to put fear into people that speak against you? Don't think that will work! People can sign "concerned citizens" or any other name they wish to use when or if they want to. You blame your last school district for all your problems but who knows!
In an earlier post you state you only need to sleep 51% in Waynedale, why would they use that percentage if you have moved into a house in Waynedale, wherelse would you sleep if your entire family is sleeping there. I sleep in my residence 100% since I only have one residence. How about you?

fish82
Posts: 4,111
Feb 6, 2011 12:59pm
Or instead of frothing at the mouth on the internet, the parents of those transfers probably spend that time making sure their paperwork is properly filled out.falcon81;666279 wrote:I pose another question...If the OHSAA is interested in stopping out of control transfers why has it never gone after one single major program that has 70 percent of its line up over decades that are mostly Transfers????? Answer....Because they do have a congressmen in the family to protect them! Conclusion ....The OHSAA is totally corrupt!!

falcon81
Posts: 571
Feb 6, 2011 1:04pm
Respectfully disagree. They work for me. Have I shared some things I should not have ? Maybe? They have suggested I not say much the same way a doctor would tell you not to have a drink. Our Doctor told us to abort Zack the smaller twin he was killing the other twin and they would both die. He refused be our doctor when we refused. Zane almost died at Birth because of our decision and was on a ventilator and a coma for months. The doctor was wrong. Look at the twins now. Do whats right and trust God, Tell the truth and you will be blessed even though it might frustrate your attorney a little.CountingLights;666384 wrote:I think the point of some of these folks is that you are not aiding your cause with these posts. Moreover, relating here what your lawyers are telling you in confidence, I am sure your lawyers would not want the attorney-client relationship breached on a public forum such as this, can be harmful to any further actions you may take on behalf of your sons. This breach of confidence on your part may subject you to further questioning if/when this issue ever arises again. As a bit of friendly advice, since I feel badly for your boys, I'd leave out of future posts anything your lawyers relate to you unless such disclosure is authorized. My .02.
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Truth
Posts: 30
Feb 6, 2011 1:08pm
I believe in earlier post you stated that your wife did not transfer her drivers license or voter registration. Just the facts -- 2 violations
falcon81;666378 wrote:When our farce hearing was over every educated person that sat in on the hearing overwhelmingly believed we met every criteria for a move with over 20 affidavits of proof on every point and expected a Eligibility finding based on facts and witnesses. Zero evidence was provided to prove otherwise with Zero witnesses. The Waynedale Superintendent , a man with a doctorate is in total belief especially now with the hearing there is no doubt we fulfilled the By-laws and there was zero fraud on our application along with my attorney's belief! It never mattered , the Hearing was a SHAM! We sir followed every rule and that was never proven otherwise, they simply choose to do what they do , they are Governed by No one.

1_beast
Posts: 5,642
Feb 6, 2011 1:08pm
truefan;666391 wrote:I have been thinking about this for awhile...could this actually be Waynedale parents that collected all the evidence against you that are really upset your sons came into their district illegally to wrestle and put their sons on the sidelines? You know what would happen if the shoe were on the other foot regarding your kids (if they weren't as good as they apparently are).
Your picture holding the guns, really? Are you trying to put fear into people that speak against you? Don't think that will work! People can sign "concerned citizens" or any other name they wish to use when or if they want to. You blame your last school district for all your problems but who knows!
noone was put on the "sidelines" we dont have a back-up 119 and at 140, 135 there are either a freshman, or a 1st year wrestler that came out because he was tired of Basketball
In an earlier post you state you only need to sleep 51% in Waynedale, why would they use that percentage if you have moved into a house in Waynedale, wherelse would you sleep if your entire family is sleeping there. I sleep in my residence 100% since I only have one residence. How about you?
noone was put on the "sidelines" we dont have a back-up 119 and at 140, 135 there are either a freshman, or a 1st year wrestler that came out because he was tired of Basketball

falcon81
Posts: 571
Feb 6, 2011 1:11pm
Believe it or not some Americans own more than one house. I have had up to 4 at one time and never less than 3 in the last 17 years . Is that now illegal if my kids play sports? Over 25 percent of my nights since October I have been in a Hotel? Still legal? All Americans don't fit in the same Box the OHSAA try to force them into!truefan;666391 wrote:I have been thinking about this for awhile...could this actually be Waynedale parents that collected all the evidence against you that are really upset your sons came into their district illegally to wrestle and put their sons on the sidelines? You know what would happen if the shoe were on the other foot regarding your kids (if they weren't as good as they apparently are).
Your picture holding the guns, really? Are you trying to put fear into people that speak against you? Don't think that will work! People can sign "concerned citizens" or any other name they wish to use when or if they want to. You blame your last school district for all your problems but who knows!
In an earlier post you state you only need to sleep 51% in Waynedale, why would they use that percentage if you have moved into a house in Waynedale, wherelse would you sleep if your entire family is sleeping there. I sleep in my residence 100% since I only have one residence. How about you?
I like that 2 year old pic Wendy took . Its a man DEFENDING his home NOT attacking some one elses!
I changed my License in October thats my Birthday, Wendy changed hers in January, thats her birthday. That was approved by OHSAA in the original app. Need More common sense?
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buckmaster13
Posts: 13
Feb 6, 2011 1:24pm
falcon81;666364 wrote:Your Hate ,Frustration and Envy can be felt even on the internet Buckmaster13. No wonder people like you spent your evenings following my wife and children around. I pray for people like you to find happiness some how in your own lives and not be obsessed with other peoples happiness and dreams. Setting goals for yourself , not stomping out the dreams of Happy children.
NO HATE,FRUSTRATION AND FOR SURE NO ENVY HERE DEAN!!! JUST THE FACTS WHICH OBVIOUSLY YOU STILL FEEL THE NEED TO TWIST AND CONFORM TO WHAT YOU WANT YOURSELF AND LITTLE FOLLOWING TO BELIEVE!!! GET SOME HELP, YOU REALLY BELIEVE YOU DID NO WRONG TO YOUR TWINS!!! WHAT A SHAME.......
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truefan
Posts: 18
Feb 6, 2011 1:26pm
I understand that anyone can own a number of houses but normally you sleep in the house in the school district where your children attend. I think that is the law isn't it? You own a house in Canton but you and your family lives in the house in Tuslaw..so your children attend Tuslaw, not Canton. Just because you own a house in another district does not allow your children to go somewhere you don't live in. Another thing, just because you own property, maybe not a house, does not permit your children to attend that school district where the property is. Of course you are aware of this, just wanted to state it.
Wasn't this whole ineligibilty thing the fact that they questioned the fact that your family was not living in Waynedale? Why, with all your money and all your lawyers, couldn't you do the right thing and really live there all the time...making dead sure there would never be any question about your residency. You move to Waynedale, you live in Waynedale! Sounds very simple to me, if that would have happened everyone would be happy now, you, your kids, your family, Waynedale, Tuslaw, and everyone else!
Wasn't this whole ineligibilty thing the fact that they questioned the fact that your family was not living in Waynedale? Why, with all your money and all your lawyers, couldn't you do the right thing and really live there all the time...making dead sure there would never be any question about your residency. You move to Waynedale, you live in Waynedale! Sounds very simple to me, if that would have happened everyone would be happy now, you, your kids, your family, Waynedale, Tuslaw, and everyone else!
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CountingLights
Posts: 93
Feb 6, 2011 1:28pm
falcon81;666396 wrote:Respectfully disagree. They work for me. Have I shared some things I should not have ? Maybe? They have suggested I not say much the same way a doctor would tell you not to have a drink. Our Doctor told us to abort Zack the smaller twin he was killing the other twin and they would both die. He refused be our doctor when we refused. Zane almost died at Birth because of our decision and was on a ventilator and a coma for months. The doctor was wrong. Look at the twins now. Do whats right and trust God, Tell the truth and you will be blessed even though it might frustrate your attorney a little.
Thanks but I believe your response highlights a huge problem in your approach and the analogy between what your doctor told you and what your lawyer tells you is not the same comparison. You had the ability to change doctors just as you have the ability to change lawyers but you DON'T have the ability to change the forum for your kids' case unless you take it to Court. It sounds as if your lawyers gave you sound advice as well as telling you their thoughts. The latter should remain in confidence. Take a deep breath and step back for a moment. Not everyone is your enemy, not everyone is against you. However, if you continue on the same path, your allies and supporters may start to dwindle. Again, just my .02. I have seen folks blinded by the rage of their own innocence who do more to harm their cause than any real or imagined enemy could. I think your boys ought to be able to wrestle wherever they want to regardless of where you live but I fail to see how some of your posts aid your cause.

falcon81
Posts: 571
Feb 6, 2011 1:30pm
Truefan you can not be on both sides. If tou believe the OHSAA made the fair decision on only the evidence provided by an organization called the "40 concerned Citizens for Tuslaw Athletics" and you believe it to be true and fare HOW CAN YOU NOW SAY THEY LIED ABOUT THIER NAME. Which is it, are they and their info legit or are they Schemers to make Tuslaw look bad while disqualifying my sons? That is a laughable position if that is indeed your position! There were no names or affidavits in that Packet ! Maybe if I turn in some lies on you I can hurt your kids and smash their dreams if you think that is the New American way! I would not do that to my worst enemy. Leave kids alone!

falcon81
Posts: 571
Feb 6, 2011 1:36pm
I will share with you soon on How it has helped tremendously! Stay Tuned and I do deeply understand your point of view , it is very safe and Law suit proof. I'am a biker and I like the open and honest road and do not give up my voice for my enemies or my friends ! Over 25,000 views and 100's of new friends and supporters! The right kind of friends that want to help not just criticize. But Criticism is still appreciated. Thank you counting lights!CountingLights;666419 wrote:Thanks but I believe your response highlights a huge problem in your approach and the analogy between what your doctor told you and what your lawyer tells you is not the same comparison. You had the ability to change doctors just as you have the ability to change lawyers but you DON'T have the ability to change the forum for your kids' case unless you take it to Court. It sounds as if your lawyers gave you sound advice as well as telling you their thoughts. The latter should remain in confidence. Take a deep breath and step back for a moment. Not everyone is your enemy, not everyone is against you. However, if you continue on the same path, your allies and supporters may start to dwindle. Again, just my .02. I have seen folks blinded by the rage of their own innocence who do more to harm their cause than any real or imagined enemy could. I think your boys ought to be able to wrestle wherever they want to regardless of where you live but I fail to see how some of your posts aid your cause.

falcon81
Posts: 571
Feb 6, 2011 1:45pm
truefan;666417 wrote:I understand that anyone can own a number of houses but normally you sleep in the house in the school district where your children attend. I think that is the law isn't it? You own a house in Canton but you and your family lives in the house in Tuslaw..so your children attend Tuslaw, not Canton. Just because you own a house in another district does not allow your children to go somewhere you don't live in. Another thing, just because you own property, maybe not a house, does not permit your children to attend that school district where the property is. Of course you are aware of this, just wanted to state it.
Wasn't this whole ineligibilty thing the fact that they questioned the fact that your family was not living in Waynedale? Why, with all your money and all your lawyers, couldn't you do the right thing and really live there all the time...making dead sure there would never be any question about your residency. You move to Waynedale, you live in Waynedale! Sounds very simple to me, if that would have happened everyone would be happy now, you, your kids, your family, Waynedale, Tuslaw, and everyone else!
Yes we live in Waynedale and still own our property in Tuslaw. Waynedale is our only "residence ONLY" Property. That was proven along with 14 out of 14 house visits by the Waynedale AD but NO OHSAA calls The AD a Liar, throws out his affidavits and believes a nameless mob with no affidavits.. Again a sham! I will come and go and enjoy any property I own with out a ankle bracelet by the OHSAA And report to them who I sleep with and when and what I had for breakfast and what restaurants I go too! My goodness we are not criminals...DID EVERY ONE FORGET SPORTS WAS NOT TO BE MORE IMPORTANT THAN SAFTEY AND ACADEMICS...YOU are like Salem which hunters! THIS WHOLE PROCESS IS LUDICROUS!!!

falcon81
Posts: 571
Feb 6, 2011 1:50pm
BTW I have Guest coming over right now, that is at my old home and now corporate office. We are meeting there because the complex has a indoor heated pool and two bowling ally's and we own it. I am probably violating some OHSAA rule to use something I own .!!!LOL!! We don't have a indoor pool or Bowling ally at our Apple Creek home because its a straight up residence! So no need to Video tape us this afternoon I confess my sins!!! I am swimming and bowling at my Corporate office!!LOL Here are some other confessions. My dog is still guarding the old complex...Oh my ..get some pics!! I used the sauna after Team nelson Wresting practice last Night!!! Oh my call the police! Zane stayed all night at his girl friends house in Rootstown last night and went to THIER FAMILIES CHURCH this morning....Oh my lets get pics of him leaving church we got him Now!! This would be Funny If it were not so stupidly TRUE!!!!!! Your all obsessively and dangerously out of CONTROL!!!!! Hate and envy Kills!
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Feb 6, 2011 1:57pm
No one cares anymore. Because of you and you alone, your kids lost. Your 15 minutes are over.
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PP1
Posts: 19
Feb 6, 2011 2:04pm
Mamma N;666342 wrote:I am brand new to this but have read posts and can't be silent any more. While this is a place to chat about topics there is a vast majority of you if have no clue what you're talking about and have not read the forum rules. Attack Dean is silly and childish, it only makes you look insecure about your own self! You clearly have no real knowledge of any part of the twins case , your rantings of where we sleep or what we do to protect our kids or how we raise our kids, or why we left one school district to go to another, or how the ohsaa treated our case, or what we should do now, proves to me be hateful and lacking facts. I don't know where you sleep and there is no way you could know where I sleep! Get over your dislike of Dean, its clear in every word that comes out of your mouth that you don't know him at all! I have watched numerous people attack him as a person and father, and I'm here to tell you the truth. I have known him for 30 plus years, and married to him for 28. Because he stands up for whats right doesn't mean he thinks he's always right. Because he has passion for what he believes in doesn't mean he's an angry man. Quite the opposite of what you say he has the biggest heart and will forgive and forget. You can't say what you would do if you were in his shoes because you aren't man enough to ever walk in his shoes. He has the love and respect of his children and for you to say otherwise is foolish. We as a family will hold together and with love and support from our many friends we will rise above this . You many continue to say whatever you like about Dean and or our family .Just know it does not effect us in any way , we know who we are, where we came from, what our future goals are . It's how you handle your darkest days that makes you the person you are. Zane and Zack have proven that they are amazing young men who love their parents. They will be fine , and better men because of this.
WOW!!! YOU'RE CONTROLLED TO.

falcon81
Posts: 571
Feb 6, 2011 2:14pm
I wish that was funny but the hearing was 20 minutes not 15. And its far from over.queencitybuckeye;666443 wrote:No one cares anymore. Because of you and you alone, your kids lost. Your 15 minutes are over.
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Truth
Posts: 30
Feb 6, 2011 2:23pm
falcon81;666402 wrote:Believe it or not some Americans own more than one house. I have had up to 4 at one time and never less than 3 in the last 17 years . Is that now illegal if my kids play sports? Over 25 percent of my nights since October I have been in a Hotel? Still legal? All Americans don't fit in the same Box the OHSAA try to force them into!
I like that 2 year old pic Wendy took . Its a man DEFENDING his home NOT attacking some one elses!
I changed my License in October thats my Birthday, Wendy changed hers in January, thats her birthday. That was approved by OHSAA in the original app. Need More common sense?
IF I'm correct January comes after October. I also checked the Stark County voting records, Wendy Nelson voted in the Nov. elections in Stark County. Public records can come back to bite you. Violations
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de oppresso liber
Posts: 32
Feb 6, 2011 2:45pm
Congrats. You have become a cartoon character. For your childrens' sake. Stop embarrassing yourself.
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truefan
Posts: 18
Feb 6, 2011 2:49pm
Truth;666475 wrote:IF I'm correct January comes after October. I also checked the Stark County voting records, Wendy Nelson voted in the Nov. elections in Stark County. Public records can come back to bite you. Violations
Oh boy, that could mean big time trouble for Wendy Nelson, right? I saw it too...living in Wayne County and voting in Stark County? Against the law, right?
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CCwinCC
Posts: 50
Feb 6, 2011 2:50pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRyIMqXA_o8&feature=related
After seeing Falcons new pic, i'm reminded of this guy.
After seeing Falcons new pic, i'm reminded of this guy.
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Truth
Posts: 30
Feb 6, 2011 2:51pm
truefan;666550 wrote:Oh boy, that could mean big time trouble for Wendy Nelson, right? I saw it too...living in Wayne County and voting in Stark County? Against the law, right?
I will bring it up to my team of lawyers first thing on Monday. I will keep you posted of my next move.