Eligibility

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truefan
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Feb 6, 2011 2:56pm
Truth;666555 wrote:I will bring it up to my team of lawyers first thing on Monday. I will keep you posted of my next move.

Ha, pretty funny! Can't wait to hear what the team has to say!
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Wolverine12
Posts: 99
Feb 6, 2011 3:30pm
This thread is like CRACK......I know it's bad for me, and I should just walk away....but I just can't quit it
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firestonefan
Posts: 417
Feb 6, 2011 3:35pm
I have to stand behind falcon81 in this. It seems to me most of you are not getting his point that other people are trying to live our lives and tell us what to do! Where to live? I do know falcon81 and believe he did everything that was asked of him. It obviously was not enough. You have my support in your battle.
I have spent a little time around the Nelson's and a whole lot of time around wrestling and have never met a more dedicated bunch. Not just about our sport but about being good people and doing the right thing. I'm not sure where you go from here falcon81, but if I can help, you know my #.
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knightflyer150
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Feb 6, 2011 3:44pm
Wolverine12;666641 wrote:This thread is like CRACK......I know it's bad for me, and I should just walk away....but I just can't quit it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwlYo8EYTWI
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LowRider
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Feb 6, 2011 3:49pm
firestonefan;666665 wrote:I have to stand behind falcon81 in this. It seems to me most of you are not getting his point that other people are trying to live our lives and tell us what to do! Where to live? I do know falcon81 and believe he did everything that was asked of him. It obviously was not enough. You have my support in your battle.
I have spent a little time around the Nelson's and a whole lot of time around wrestling and have never met a more dedicated bunch. Not just about our sport but about being good people and doing the right thing. I'm not sure where you go from here falcon81, but if I can help, you know my #.
Hello???? Who doesnt get it???? I sure get it! You can live where ever you want...............no one can stop you. But if you want to move and have your kids play sports..............YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES! I wanted my son to go to another school and be eligible to wrestle. No one stopped me...but..........I followed the rules. If you are unable to do so then dont even attempt it. But dont think you are above what everyone else has had to do to keep their children eligible. All of Falcons threats on how the OHSAA is going to pay and how he is going to pick up his family and move away are ridiculous. If he would have played by the rules in the first place his boys would be wrestling right now and not having to go through this. Hopefully if one lesson can be learned from this for them its........money cant always buy you want you want so do it right the first time and not expect to buy your way out of every situation that does not go in your favor. Their daddy was not able to tiptoe around rules that the rest of us have had to follow and he cant believe it. If these rules were not in place you would have kids bouncing all over the state from school to school. Now falcons main priority should be to keep his family safe.....I mean after all he has stated over and over how his children have been bullied and people spying in their windows. The fact of the matter is you have kids from the same household going to 2 different schools yet no one is open enrolled. Not to mention all the other rules that were not followed.
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Curly J
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Feb 6, 2011 3:54pm
knightflyer150;666704 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwlYo8EYTWI
I lol'd.
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Wolverine12
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Feb 6, 2011 3:56pm
knightflyer150;666704 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwlYo8EYTWI

knightflyer150- pretty funny...but...the kind of "crack" those guys are doing, is not what I was refering to.
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herbie
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Feb 6, 2011 6:29pm
firestonefan ....I also get his point. But you need to get this point - we all know how people rent a house and say they're living there - when the kids graduate then they're done renting. Just man up when your caught. I owned over ten houses through my kids whole wrestling career, but they always stayed at just the one 100% of the time . Shoot I wish I knew the game when they were in high school and I could have transferred them a bunch. LOL!
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falcon81
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Feb 6, 2011 7:29pm
truefan;666550 wrote:Oh boy, that could mean big time trouble for Wendy Nelson, right? I saw it too...living in Wayne County and voting in Stark County? Against the law, right?
You people are sad. I can't imagine in a million years being part of a stalking group designed to hurt two great Student athletes , Your hate and activities speak volumes about your character. And No silly it is not against the law to vote where you own personal property! It is a federal offense to go threw a parsons mailbox. And my wife did go to Wooster on election Day and was told she did not have the info necessary to vote and sent her back to the other site where she had to vote. She was very upset because she wanted to vote for the School Levy and was denied. Again OHSAA rules have nothing to do with the law. I voted in early voting when I had my drivers license changed on my birthday. Very sad and pathetic. The more you guys hate on here the smaller and smaller you look.
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falcon81
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Feb 6, 2011 7:37pm
Truth;666475 wrote:IF I'm correct January comes after October. I also checked the Stark County voting records, Wendy Nelson voted in the Nov. elections in Stark County. Public records can come back to bite you. Violations
Your a Genius! Yes January was just here. Thats when you renew your Drivers license, thats why the Wooster voting place would not let her vote in November because her drivers license still had the old address and the BMV was already closed. She was instructed to go to her other place to vote ...she did. You people are actually now criticizing someone for voting .You are all obsessed ! Everything was cleared by Debbie Moore from OHSAA. You remember the one who went on sick leave 5 minutes after we agreed to the phone hearing who finally showed back up 10 minuted late for the hearing.
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falcon81
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Feb 6, 2011 7:56pm
herbie;666890 wrote:firestonefan I also get his point, But you need to get this point we all know how people rent a house say their living there when kids graduate then their done renting. Just man up when your caught. I owned over ten houses through my kids whole wrestling career they always stayed at just the one 100% of the time . Shoot I wish I knew the game when they were in high school I could of transferred them a bunch Lol
The facts is we proved intent beyond all Doubt in the hearing.
WE HIRED A REAL ESTATE AGENT TWO WEEKs BEFORE THE INELIGIBILITY NOTICE, TO FIND us a 80 to 150 acre farm in Waynedale!!!!!! FACT!! Sound like a trick to you. Thats when there was no worries!! A 80 to 150 acre Farm to replace the Apple Creek home when the lease ended!! I leased my Tuslaw property for 3 years not 12 months!! Why would I do that? There went the OHSAA's case that we intended to move back to Tuslaw. The Real estate agent took Photo's of the Tuslaw complex and sent a estimate to how long and for how much that house would take to sell!! She said years in this market! There goes your conspiracy theories!! You people keep taking wild punches to find anything you can to ruin two young men and ignore all reason and fact at all cost!! Insults and name calling is your main game. The pure obsessive hate just amazes me! I just had friends over at the Complex and they also just are amazed at the hate and sick behavior coming out of Tuslaw and their desire to hurt kids so badly , then again these are the same drunks that could have got some kids killed. They do not care. Lets instead attack a mom for voting? Down right wicked and evil!
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falcon81
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Feb 6, 2011 8:22pm
Lets try this, so the thread does not get closed down. Back to "Eligibility" do you agree how it is set up and do you really agree with the way OHSAA handles itself? Do you believe unidentified groups of adults should be encouraged to follow families around and be encouraged by the OHSAA to do so? McCarthyism? Do you like a system of neighbor following neighbor in the night? Do you like Adult bed checks by the OHSAA? Would you let them in your bedroom if they knocked on your door at 10 at night? Do you want your mail gone threw? Do you like witch Hunts? Some in Tuslaw do! And Sports are not important????????? MY sons got a longer sentence than a guy I know busted in a major pot growing business. The good ole boy OHSAA network, your a reckless irresponsible power based, private club for coaches with no safety or welfare in mind for the student athletes!
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Fab1b
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Feb 6, 2011 8:23pm
Everyone chill out and watch the Super Bowl
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firestonefan
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Feb 6, 2011 8:30pm
I think halftime sucked!
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Feb 6, 2011 8:33pm
falcon81;667219 wrote:... Back to "Eligibility" do you agree how it is set up and do you really agree with the way OHSAA handles itself?
Overall, yes.

falcon81;667219 wrote:Do you believe unidentified groups of adults should be encouraged to follow families around and be encouraged by the OHSAA to do so?
No.
falcon81;667219 wrote:McCarthyism?
Lol. No.
falcon81;667219 wrote:Do you like a system of neighbor following neighbor in the night?
I don't think I would like it but I really don't care if my neighbor wants to follow me. Maybe we could just ride together.
falcon81;667219 wrote:Do you like Adult bed checks by the OHSAA?
Only if it meant being eligible.
falcon81;667219 wrote:Would you let them in your bedroom if they knocked on your door at 10 at night?
...if I wanted my kids to play and they had proper identification then yes. Didn't you let them in? I thought I read somewhere that you had confirmation with multiple bed checks. We probably feel the same way about this question.
falcon81;667219 wrote:Do you want your mail gone threw?
This one made me laugh also. I hate mail. They can have my mail if they want it. Nothing good comes in the mail.

falcon81;667219 wrote:Do you like witch Hunts?
No.
falcon81;667219 wrote:And Sports are not important?????????
They certainly aren't more imoprtant than safety or acadmics. I wouldn't let "sports" dictate the manner we approach either of those.
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Daisy1519
Posts: 74
Feb 6, 2011 8:33pm
I have read this entire post, sorted through all the extra fluff..... It seems like the Nelsons took all the appropriate steps to change schools according to the OHSAA rules. It seems crazy to me that the OHSAA would then make these 2 wrestlers ineligible based on flimsy information. Did the OHSAA board say what they based their decision on? I think if they are going to take away 2 wrestlers season, they would inform you of the supporting documentation and how they obtained it. This situation is really crazy, but like a previous post said, rules are in place for a reason, I'm not saying you broke them, but if you did, there are consequences, it's just too bad it's 2 teenager's wrestling season(s) that was the cost. Maybe they should reinstate the twins and make the dad sit out a season!
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Truth
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Feb 6, 2011 8:33pm
Like Lowrider said, there are proper procedures to follow, he did.

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Mamma N
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Feb 6, 2011 9:00pm
Mamma N;666342 wrote:I am brand new to this but have read posts and can't be silent any more. While this is a place to chat about topics there is a vast majority of you if have no clue what you're talking about and have not read the forum rules. Attack Dean is silly and childish, it only makes you look insecure about your own self! You clearly have no real knowledge of any part of the twins case , your rantings of where we sleep or what we do to protect our kids or how we raise our kids, or why we left one school district to go to another, or how the ohsaa treated our case, or what we should do now, proves to me be hateful and lacking facts. I don't know where you sleep and there is no way you could know where I sleep! Get over your dislike of Dean, its clear in every word that comes out of your mouth that you don't know him at all! I have watched numerous people attack him as a person and father, and I'm here to tell you the truth. I have known him for 30 plus years, and married to him for 28. Because he stands up for whats right doesn't mean he thinks he's always right. Because he has passion for what he believes in doesn't mean he's an angry man. Quite the opposite of what you say he has the biggest heart and will forgive and forget. You can't say what you would do if you were in his shoes because you aren't man enough to ever walk in his shoes. He has the love and respect of his children and for you to say otherwise is foolish. We as a family will hold together and with love and support from our many friends we will rise above this . You many continue to say whatever you like about Dean and or our family .Just know it does not effect us in any way , we know who we are, where we came from, what our future goals are . It's how you handle your darkest days that makes you the person you are. Zane and Zack have proven that they are amazing young men who love their parents. They will be fine , and better men because of this.
Ha-ha, Read this again , you prove my point over and over! My second graders have more insight than some of you! But I will say your comments are very entertaining!
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MamaBear
Posts: 20
Feb 6, 2011 9:31pm
I have been reading this thread this whole time and now I have reached the disgust level! I am in shock that you haters are now bashing Mom Nelson because of where she voted at in the fall?! Do you people not have anything else to throw out so now you are going to attack someone else in there family! do you not realize what they have all been through these last few weeks...is that not enough?! Their life turned upside down, their every move watched and criticized, and now every member being attacked with name calling and saying how bad of people they are! I really doubt there are many of you haters on here who actually know them for the people they are...its just easier for you to bash them and make them look bad! I really hope that no one else has to go through this, but if you do just remember how you have treated this family!
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LJ
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Feb 6, 2011 9:35pm
falcon81;667061 wrote:Your a Genius! Yes January was just here. Thats when you renew your Drivers license, thats why the Wooster voting place would not let her vote in November because her drivers license still had the old address and the BMV was already closed. She was instructed to go to her other place to vote ...she did. You people are actually now criticizing someone for voting .You are all obsessed ! Everything was cleared by Debbie Moore from OHSAA. You remember the one who went on sick leave 5 minutes after we agreed to the phone hearing who finally showed back up 10 minuted late for the hearing.

You renew your Driver's License on your birthday or up to 30 days before. You can get a new license with a new address with proper verification documents at any time.
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1_beast
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Feb 6, 2011 10:13pm
Just WOW!!!!!
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I Wear Pants
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Feb 6, 2011 10:41pm
If they did go through his mail that is a felony though. The detractors seem to be ignoring that.

This has probably been answered already falcon and I'm not accusing here but why did you keep the Tuslaw house when you moved?
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queencitybuckeye
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Feb 6, 2011 10:45pm
falcon81;666461 wrote:I wish that was funny but the hearing was 20 minutes not 15. And its far from over.

Neither Oompa nor Loompa will be wrestling this year. It's over.
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1_beast
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Feb 6, 2011 10:48pm
queencitybuckeye;667729 wrote:Neither Oompa nor Loompa will be wrestling this year. It's over.
Very Classy...now calling the kids names!!!!!! I guarantee them boys may be sophmores in high school...but they would put an oompah lompah butt kicking on you wise guy. And the one is only 119 lbs. How tough would that make you feel. Now step in front of a train.
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Daisy1519
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Feb 6, 2011 10:55pm
I Wear Pants;667712 wrote:If they did go through his mail that is a felony though. The detractors seem to be ignoring that.

This has probably been answered already falcon and I'm not accusing here but why did you keep the Tuslaw house when you moved?
He moved his company's offices into his house in tuslaw and that is where the complex is. And a tree farm.