Week 1 Steelers @ Browns

Gardens35 Senior Member
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Sun, Sep 9, 2018 5:03 PM

Undefeated.

Ironman92 Administrator
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Sun, Sep 9, 2018 5:08 PM

What an awful afternoon

vball10set paying it forward
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Sun, Sep 9, 2018 5:09 PM

Not happy with the tie, which means my mindset has changed as well...fuck the Steelers 

kizer permanente Senior Member
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Sun, Sep 9, 2018 5:12 PM

I’m ready for Baker. I don’t think he’s any worse than Tyrod and the upside is tremendously better. 

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Sun, Sep 9, 2018 5:12 PM

I am more pissed about the tie than I would have been if it was a loss.  Browns fucked themselves.  There is no reason why they shouldn't have won.  They were the better team today. 

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Sun, Sep 9, 2018 5:35 PM
posted by kizer permanente

I’m ready for Baker. I don’t think he’s any worse than Tyrod and the upside is tremendously better. 

Yep. I keep going back to the Jets starting Darnold, who I think is a lesser QB. Bet those deep balls to Gordon & Landry would've been TD's or long gainers instead on an INT or a circus catch that Landry has to make.

Thinking about it in more detail, Hue might have a better shot of saving his ass by starting Mayfield. At least he'd have the "hey, we went 6-9-1 with the rookie" versus being fired after the Jets game for being 0-0-3 with Tie-rod.

Oh, and TheRapist was 23 of 41 in that slop...Tyrod? 15 of 40

BoatShoes Senior Member
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Sun, Sep 9, 2018 7:33 PM

My biggest complaint. We get to 3rd and 1 in overtime and the play call is a downfield seam route - with that weather and the way Tyrod played most of the game? I wish I could re-watch to see if that was an audible or if Tyrod just ignored the underneath routes or something because it makes no sense to me. 

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Sun, Sep 9, 2018 8:03 PM
posted by BoatShoes

My biggest complaint. We get to 3rd and 1 in overtime and the play call is a downfield seam route - with that weather and the way Tyrod played most of the game? I wish I could re-watch to see if that was an audible or if Tyrod just ignored the underneath routes or something because it makes no sense to me. 

This was absurd.  I forget which famous coach said it, but he said every game has 5-7 plays that determines the outcome of the game. We can easily pick 5-7 plays, that would have won the Browns the game.  

Ironman92 Administrator
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Sun, Sep 9, 2018 8:33 PM

It don’t matter at all, but I didn’t think he got in until their 3rd possession?

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Sun, Sep 9, 2018 8:38 PM
posted by Ironman92

It don’t matter at all, but I didn’t think he got in until their 3rd possession?

Yeah, I don't recall him being in the first series.  Also, who fucking cares?  No clue what the logic was behind not starting Gordon when he was going to get significant time anyway. 

 

I agree with the guy responding to this tweet.  

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Sun, Sep 9, 2018 8:44 PM
posted by like_that

Yeah, I don't recall him being in the first series.  Also, who fucking cares?  No clue what the logic was behind not starting Gordon when he was going to get significant time anyway. 

 

I agree with the guy responding to this tweet.  

Whether he started, or not, was just stupid. We all know he was getting in there shortly. Oh, run on 1st down and Gordon's on the field for 2nd down = didn't start. So dumb.

BRF Senior Member
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Sun, Sep 9, 2018 9:44 PM

I'll take a tie versus a loss any time, especially what we are coming off of. 

It's the Steelers and they didn't beat us. 

That's great. 

thavoice Senior Member
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Sun, Sep 9, 2018 10:18 PM

This game proves why the steelers are not an elite team nor should they be considered one.

They play down to competition and routinely cannot put teams away.     

8-8, well, 7-8-1 is the best they will do this year.

 

For shame....the SB window has slammed shut

Ironman92 Administrator
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Sun, Sep 9, 2018 10:37 PM

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BR1986FB Senior Member
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Mon, Sep 10, 2018 10:14 AM

Would love to see the All 22 on this one. Sounds like Tyrod had open receivers all over the field that he missed.

vball10set paying it forward
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Mon, Sep 10, 2018 10:18 AM
posted by BR1986FB

Would love to see the All 22 on this one. Sounds like Tyrod had open receivers all over the field that he missed.

IMO, he wasn't good at all--yeah, maybe he ran for a couple of first downs, but hell, Mayfield could've done that too....I would also love to know if Haley had total control of the play calling, or if Jackson held him in check

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Mon, Sep 10, 2018 10:34 AM
posted by vball10set

IMO, he wasn't good at all--yeah, maybe he ran for a couple of first downs, but hell, Mayfield could've done that too....I would also love to know if Haley had total control of the play calling, or if Jackson held him in check

There was some back & forth over on the OBR, some trying to defend TT's play due to "weather", the 'O-Line", etc and one of the long-time posters, who pretty much knows his shit, said (paraphrase) "unless you had seats behind the goal posts, STFU will this defending of Tyrod."

He said there were receivers running free in the middle of the field (especially on the pick TT threw Gordon's way) but TT doesn't look that way because he's afraid to throw in the middle of the field (another knock on him). Poster said with Mayfield's "vision", Browns win that game by 14 because he likely hits the two long throws that were under thrown.

TT is what he was advertised as...a "safe" QB who won't take chances, won't win you games, or necessarily lose them (guess he proved that yesterday with a tie) who takes too many sacks (holds the ball too long) and can't throw a deep ball. I knew this before the season and stated that he was going to frustrate the shit out of fans (just like he did in Buffalo) with what he leaves on the field.

Kind of why I'd have interest in seeing the ALL 22 and, not that I'm necessarily a fan of them, but PFF's grades on the O-Linemen. I heard Harrison & Bitonio didn't play "well" but I'm getting conflicting reports that they didn't play quite as bad as people would believe. Had actually heard that Harrison fared fairly well against Dupree.

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Mon, Sep 10, 2018 11:12 AM
posted by BR1986FB

Would love to see the All 22 on this one. Sounds like Tyrod had open receivers all over the field that he missed.

This was what I was trying to figure out during the game.  Was he just holding on to the god damn ball or was nobody getting open.  I had a hard time beliving that Gordon and Landry weren't getting open on all of those plays

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Mon, Sep 10, 2018 11:26 AM
posted by like_that

I had a hard time beliving that Gordon and Landry weren't getting open on all of those plays

This. 1000 damn times, THIS.

Steelers secondary is supposed to be their defenses "weak link" and you're trying to tell me two Pro Bowl level receivers can't get open? Sell that shit to someone who wants to buy some swamp real estate in Florida. He hinders this offense.

I also don't think the O-Line played as poorly as was thought but I may be wrong. He was holding that ball way too long. If you're afraid to make mistakes, you're playing the wrong position in the NFL.

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Mon, Sep 10, 2018 12:02 PM

As someone who has pumped up TT, he played terrible. He played well in the 4th outside of the last min INT—which was terrible. I give him a little credit for finally taking advantage of Pittsburgh turnovers in the 4th but where the hell was that early on? He helped savage a tie and we atleast didn’t lose by 2 TDs but damn we should have won this game comfortably with how well our defense played. 

 

Couple notes..

ward is a baller. First nfl game ever and he did a pretty solid job on the best WR in the NFL. And two picks are just a bonus. Incredible first game for him. 

Garrett is a monster. He’ll win DPOY at some point with Cleveland (assuming he can stay healthy). 

Hyde ran really well and I thought Chubb did alright too. Would have liked to see TT get duke more involved in the passing game. 

The refs were dreadful. That RTP on garrett gave Pittsburgh a TD instead of a 40 yard fg attempt. Pissed me the hell off and is when I started taking shots. 

Little confused by Haley’s play calling. Wouldn’t shock me at all if some of these calls were signaled in by Hue. 

This team has the ability to win 6-8 games this year. But I question whether Hue will prevent that from happening. 

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