Tribe Talk - Off Season Version

Fun fact # 2.... neither is Lizzy Warren! :)

posted by like_that

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Redskins_name_opinion_polls

This breaks down any relevant polling done on this issue. You can cry about one poll or the other, but overall the data from the mass majority of these polls (general public and targeted natives) are in line with the “not offended” group.

From your link,

"CORNISH: Reaction from the team owner Dan Snyder in a statement - he said, we're gratified by this overwhelming support from the Native American community, and the team will proudly carry the Redskins name. What do you make of that read of this poll?

COX: I think that's a stretch. We didn't ask people if they supported the name."

LOL

Using this as a chest thumpering for "THEY SUPPORT IT" is not a great arguement. Funny how upset you get about it despite having "no skin in the game".

posted by Commander of Awesome

From your link,

"CORNISH: Reaction from the team owner Dan Snyder in a statement - he said, we're gratified by this overwhelming support from the Native American community, and the team will proudly carry the Redskins name. What do you make of that read of this poll?

COX: I think that's a stretch. We didn't ask people if they supported the name."

 

LOL

 

Using this as a chest thumpering for "THEY SUPPORT IT" is not a great arguement. Funny how upset you get about it despite having "no skin in the game".

Not upset at all, but go ahead and try to act smug to make your point.  I don't deny this has been an ongoing debate, but the mass majority of those polls support my opinion.  Not sure what to tell you if you don't believe in data.  I have my other response in the other thread.  Accidentally deleted it, but the convo should be moved to there anyway.

Edit:  I think you misquoted my post.   

posted by HitsRus

Fun fact # 2.... neither is Lizzy Warren! :)

I don't know who that is or when they acted naive american

I would not be heartbroken if the Tribe deals Kipnis ............looks like they have been discussing it w the Spankees

For the old school guys, RIP Oscar Gamble....best fro in the business.

posted by BR1986FB

For the old school guys, RIP Oscar Gamble....best fro in the business.

He was the best baseball fro from my first year of really collecting cards in 1983

posted by BR1986FB

For the old school guys, RIP Oscar Gamble....best fro in the business.

RIP

posted by Ironman92

He was the best baseball fro from my first year of really collecting cards in 1983

My first game I attended back in 1974 or 1975 he was playing in the outfield. Had this huge fro. They were wearing those red uniforms and Boog Powell looked like a giant tomato.

posted by Ironman92

He was the best baseball fro 

Yes.

Oscar Gamble was one of my favorites growing up. RIP.

Sad to read about Gamble.

I've caught exactly one home run ball.............he hit it.

Indians and Orioles have been in constant contact about Machado. 🍆🍆🍆🍆💦💦💦💦

Also briefly spoke with Red Sox about EE for JBJ. Wouldn’t like that deal as much, unless we replaced EE power elsewhere. JBJ would be great moving forward, but I want a title in THIS window. 

posted by Laley23

Indians and Orioles have been in constant contact about Machado. 🍆🍆🍆🍆💦💦💦💦

Also briefly spoke with Red Sox about EE for JBJ. Wouldn’t like that deal as much, unless we replaced EE power elsewhere. JBJ would be great moving forward, but I want a title in THIS window. 

Where would Jon Bon Jovi play?

posted by Laley23

Indians and Orioles have been in constant contact about Machado. 🍆🍆🍆🍆💦💦💦💦

Also briefly spoke with Red Sox about EE for JBJ. Wouldn’t like that deal as much, unless we replaced EE power elsewhere. JBJ would be great moving forward, but I want a title in THIS window. 

Bradley is arb eligible next year, and UFA in 2021.  It saves 12M in 2018, but loses 15-20 HR of power.

Short term no, long term maybe if he signs an extension to get away from those arb years.

posted by Verbal Kint

Bradley is arb eligible next year, and UFA in 2021.  It saves 12M in 2018, but loses 15-20 HR of power.

Short term no, long term maybe if he signs an extension to get away from those arb years.

What are we talking about here?

posted by Laley23

What are we talking about here?

I'd rather have Edwin for 2018, but it might be a wash for 2019 and beyond to have Jackie if he signs a contract and the next 2 years are not going to arbitration

posted by Verbal Kint

I'd rather have Edwin for 2018, but it might be a wash for 2019 and beyond to have Jackie if he signs a contract and the next 2 years are not going to arbitration

Gotcha. Yeah, I’m against that trade as it seems to be more for the future and not the window. But, it’s also a trade that seems like it could keep the Tribe from a rebuild. Pitching is going to be impossible to keep, but they will have great core players under control still. It’s the ONLY reason I’d make the trade.

Now, if they trade for Machado, I would explore this more. Because Machado is a better bat than EE, and while we only get him 1 year, EE is eventually gonna decline. And Machado in a contract year, pennant race...yes please! Could be the difference between losing again to the Yankees and beating the Dodgers.

What do we have to give up to rent Machado for a season? We won't be able to pay that guy but he would a great addition to the lineup.

posted by TBone14

What do we have to give up to rent Machado for a season? We won't be able to pay that guy but he would a great addition to the lineup.

Mackenzie, Salazar and Kipnis. That’s my guess. Clevinger could be a nice piece as well to mix up the names. Baltimore needs/wants young pitching they control through 2022. Tribe has that...and then some. I get it’s a steep price, but it’s also a piece that can take us over the top. Would easily have the best infield in the game, plus Zimmer manning CF. Machado is a GG 3rd baseman and you can pencil him in for 30 HRs and 90 RBI. And the Tribe offense should push those RBI numbers even higher.