Tribe Offseason Thread

Laley23 GOAT

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Tue, Nov 6, 2018 6:50 PM

Season didn’t go as planned, but probably went about as expected.

Ordinarily, I wouldn’t start the offseason so fast, but Tribe are active already. Shopping Kluber, Carrasco, EE, etc. Ramirez and Lindor are reportedly only players off the market...though it will take a ransom for certain guys to be dealt.

Yankees apparently met with Indians today about Carrasco and Kluber. Thoughts on Andujar and someone else (Sheffield, Frazier, BP guy) for Kluber? I think it would actually be a great move for Cleveland, but only if they get Andujar, Sheffield and someone else. Anything less and I wouldn’t hate it, but wouldn’t love it quite as much.

like_that 1st Team All-PWN

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Tue, Nov 6, 2018 8:24 PM

This is going to be a depressing offseason.

BRF Senior Member

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Tue, Nov 6, 2018 8:35 PM

posted by Laley23
Season didn’t go as planned, but probably went about as expected.

Yeah.............

because CLE

Where did you get this meeting with the Yankees?

Laley23 GOAT

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Tue, Nov 6, 2018 8:40 PM

posted by BRF
Yeah.............

because CLE

Where did you get this meeting with the Yankees?

LGT (among others) reported the Tribe shopping a few days ago. Jon Heyman today reported the meeting.

HitsRus Senior Member

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Fri, Nov 9, 2018 3:14 PM

Yeah... already somewhat concerned.

What’s up with not offering Brantley a qualifying offer?... and shopping Kluber when he under control for three more seasons?

Gardens35 Senior Member

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Fri, Nov 9, 2018 6:05 PM

Silver Sluggers.........Lindor and Ramirez.

Laley23 GOAT

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Sat, Nov 10, 2018 4:33 PM

posted by HitsRus
Yeah... already somewhat concerned.

What’s up with not offering Brantley a qualifying offer?... and shopping Kluber when he under control for three more seasons?

Shopping Kluber is probably a wise decision. Could actually make the team better as long as they stick to their guns and don’t settle. I can’t be positive...but pretty damn close that Tribe got the best years of him. If they can flip him at this age, with diminishing velocity and increasing IP, for his past performance and not predictive of the future ones, I think it’s a no brainer. Again, though, they can’t cave. HAVE to get 3 top players back. And if not? No big deal. He will simply start for us in the Divisional Series again.

Not sure on Brantley?

HitsRus Senior Member

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Sun, Nov 11, 2018 10:18 PM

Well, I suppose one season early is better than one season late providing you hit the jackpot. Still, I would think the window is still open, why break up one of the best rotations in baseball? SMH.

BR1986FB Senior Member

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Mon, Nov 12, 2018 7:52 AM

posted by Laley23
Shopping Kluber is probably a wise decision. Could actually make the team better as long as they stick to their guns and don’t settle. I can’t be positive...but pretty damn close that Tribe got the best years of him. If they can flip him at this age, with diminishing velocity and increasing IP, for his past performance and not predictive of the future ones, I think it’s a no brainer. Again, though, they can’t cave. HAVE to get 3 top players back. And if not? No big deal. He will simply start for us in the Divisional Series again.

I completely agree with this. Strike while the iron's hot. I've noticed little things from Kluber that imply he could soon fall off the map. If they can get huge value, do it. Inject the roster with some young players to keep the fans interested. As composed, I don't think anyone with a brain thinks they are a serious title contender. A staff of Cookie, Bauer, Clevinger, Bieber and X should be enough to win the division again.

Laley23 GOAT

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Mon, Nov 12, 2018 9:29 AM

posted by HitsRus
Well, I suppose one season early is better than one season late providing you hit the jackpot. Still, I would think the window is still open, why break up one of the best rotations in baseball? SMH.

Cause you'll still win division by around 10 games. Be in the playoffs. And have Bauer/Carrasco and potentially Clevinger/Bieber if they continue to develop, which we should assume they will based on the past few years with all these guys. Plus, you’re EXTENDING the window, pending on what and who you get back.

cat_lover Senior Member

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Mon, Nov 12, 2018 10:29 AM

You don't want to panic and just give away Kluber but if you can get two to three everyday pieces for him you at least have to listen to the offers.

BR1986FB Senior Member

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Mon, Nov 12, 2018 10:34 AM

posted by cat_lover
You don't want to panic and just give away Kluber but if you can get two to three everyday pieces for him you at least have to listen to the offers.

I don't think anyone wants to give him away, as he still has significant value, but if the offer's right, of course.

Laley23 GOAT

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Mon, Nov 12, 2018 1:39 PM

posted by cat_lover
You don't want to panic and just give away Kluber but if you can get two to three everyday pieces for him you at least have to listen to the offers.

Seems Yankees are most interested. Any offer that didn’t start with Andujar, I hang up.

Gardens35 Senior Member

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Wed, Nov 14, 2018 6:06 PM

I see Erik Gonzalez traded to Pirates.

vball10set paying it forward

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Wed, Nov 14, 2018 6:22 PM

Blake Snell wins AL Cy Young

BR1986FB Senior Member

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Tue, Nov 27, 2018 7:32 AM

Donaldson to the Braves on a 1 year, $23m deal. So much for a "prove it" deal. Also looks like Chisenhall to the Pirates on a 1 year deal.

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843

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Tue, Nov 27, 2018 9:12 AM

Seems pretty steep for Donaldson

Heretic Son of the Sun

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Tue, Nov 27, 2018 11:14 AM

posted by BR1986FB
Donaldson to the Braves on a 1 year, $23m deal. So much for a "prove it" deal. Also looks like Chisenhall to the Pirates on a 1 year deal.

So, you guys now have Moroff and Luplow and we now have Gonzalez and Chis, so does this mean that our teams are going to swap all our bench pieces before the winter is over?

HitsRus Senior Member

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Tue, Nov 27, 2018 6:33 PM

Confirmed... Chiz is gone.

BR1986FB Senior Member

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Tue, Nov 27, 2018 8:34 PM

posted by iclfan2
Seems pretty steep for Donaldson

Yeah, as I mentioned, I expected him to have to sign a one year prove it deal. Apparently not.

BR1986FB Senior Member

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Wed, Nov 28, 2018 7:34 AM

Interesting (and dumb) if true...

Bob Nightengale✔@BNightengale

Teams talking to the Cleveland #Indians say the Indians are much more inclined to trade Trevor Bauer than Corey Kluber or Carlos Carrasco. Bauer has 2 years of club control left, but the only one of the starters with cost uncertainty. He has two arbitration years left before FA.

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