Tribe Offseason Thread

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Thu, Dec 13, 2018 12:25 PM

Indians also sending someone to Tampa.  I dunno about Carlos production but loved him. Oh shit Yandy gone too and Indians getting Jake Bowers.

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Thu, Dec 13, 2018 12:37 PM

An article on Bauers from Tampa from before he came to majors (and only hit .200).

http://www.prospectdigest.com/2018/03/06/tampa-bay-rays-top-10-prospects-for-2018/

HitsRus Senior Member
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Thu, Dec 13, 2018 1:56 PM

Net result... 

we get Santana back and Jake Bauers from the Rays... for Edwing and Yandy Diaz.

WTF🤦‍♂️

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Thu, Dec 13, 2018 2:25 PM

Yeah, this one's definitely a "WTF" for me.

33,369 posts 132 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Dec 13, 2018 2:55 PM

Santana is so much better for this team than Edwin. Not even an argument. Yandy to Tampa sucks. Wanted to see what he could do for a full season. 

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Thu, Dec 13, 2018 3:00 PM

I don't find it as bad as some of you. Yandy is 28 with huge muscles and no position. Maybe a full year at 3rd this year would have turned it around, but he may be one of those guys who needed a change of scenery (Brandon Philips). The guy we are getting was a top prospect and has a low k rate and sees a lot of pitches (from what I've been able to gather from twitter.

As for EE or Santana, I liked Santana when he was here, and he is the same price for 2ish years than EE this year. Also sees a lot of pitches. I'm meh on the trade, but not thinking wtf.

HitsRus Senior Member
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Thu, Dec 13, 2018 3:08 PM

Well ....we lose a draft pick and a minor league pitcher as well. We get some cash considerations. I guess a positive side is that we get younger. Santana is 32 compared to EE who is 34.... Bauers is 23 compared to Yandy at 27.

33,369 posts 132 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Dec 13, 2018 3:27 PM

I think Yandy is just a pure hitter. Hit about .300 in extended time this year and he still hasn’t tweaked his swing for power. That’s really impressive for a guy of his stature. No position is a problem, but he wasn’t awful at 3B, and that makes Kipnis a bench player, which is a plus. Oh well.

Bauers had an OBP 113 points HIGHER than his average (which sucked at .201). But I like the approach. Santana like, and he can play corner OF. I turkey think we get much better by dumping EE and adding Santana.

He can hit 1/2/4/5/6. Walks a ton, more speed, is one of the best base runners in baseball and Gold Glove caliber at first. Edwin was the RH power bat we needed in 2017, and he delivered perfectly. But we don’t need that now, and Santana is better for the club, despite a few less HRs (but still similar slugging). 

33,369 posts 132 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Dec 13, 2018 3:29 PM

This also means Yonder is like 99% gone, which is a plus. 

I’m not advocating for the Klhber trade,  it if they can shore up the OF, get younger and more athletic as well as deeper by dealing him...the Tribe will have gotten much better this offseason. Not sure what else we can ask from upper management.

HitsRus Senior Member
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Thu, Dec 13, 2018 6:41 PM

Sounds like with Yandy gone, JRam goes back to 3rd and Kip stays at 2B.

cat_lover Senior Member
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Thu, Dec 13, 2018 8:46 PM
posted by HitsRus

Sounds like with Yandy gone, JRam goes back to 3rd and Kip stays at 2B.

I would think that would be  the case.

 

BRF Senior Member
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Thu, Dec 13, 2018 9:56 PM

All this shit is ruining the game for me. 

#old

vball10set paying it forward
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Fri, Dec 14, 2018 10:11 AM
posted by BRF

All this shit is ruining the game for me. 

#old

In the not too distant past I'd ask during football season "when does baseball start", and now it appears during baseball season I'll be asking just the opposite :(

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Sat, Dec 15, 2018 7:28 AM

Alonso to the White Sox.

HitsRus Senior Member
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Sat, Dec 15, 2018 8:09 AM

Tribe gets AA outfielder Alex Call.....salary dump. Tribe clears  $8 million off the books.

Alonso hit .250 with 23 HRs and 83 RBIs... WAR of .7

 

 

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Sat, Dec 15, 2018 8:54 AM

Kinda funny, indians got rid of all the ys. Yan, Yandy, and Yonder.

Gardens35 Senior Member
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Sat, Dec 15, 2018 10:30 AM

Also "funny" that the guy who was the center piece in all of the original trade talk  going back to last mid season..........Kipnis...............is still planted at 2nd base.

Other than Gomes (for sure) and Diaz (maybe), I'm "ok" with what's  been done so far.

Might now have money to offer up to a couple of Tribe's free agents.

 

33,369 posts 132 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sat, Dec 15, 2018 12:45 PM

Yonder was my least favorite player last season. Glad he is gone.

cat_lover Senior Member
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Sat, Dec 15, 2018 1:37 PM

Outside of the Gomes trade I'm okay with all the other moves.

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Mon, Dec 17, 2018 7:12 PM

Brantley to Astros.

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