Tribe Offseason Thread

I feel like the goal is to just win the shitty division and hope the team is hot for the playoffs. 

We saw how well that worked this last season. 

I think their window was 2016 when they snuck up on everybody.

It seems like the plan is just to stay as cheap as possible (because we are going to win the division anyway)...and then tweak the team in July when we find out what we need.

Yeah, that worked really well.

Yep,win a crappy division and hope for the perfect storm during the playoffs.

Go Tribe

RIP former Tribe infielder Luis Valbuena....murdered in Venezuela

posted by BR1986FB

RIP former Tribe infielder Luis Valbuena....murdered in Venezuela

Terrible story. Why do these guys go back to these shit hole countries?

posted by iclfan2

Terrible story. Why do these guys go back to these shit hole countries?

it's their home

Odds are Kluber will be gone before Friday.... I’m gonna hate this on general principles.

posted by HitsRus

Odds are Kluber will be gone before Friday.

Trading Kluber is the right move. Despite what people want to believe.

posted by Laley23

Trading Kluber is the right move. Despite what people want to believe.

yeah, I have to agree here

Dodgers interested in Kluber, Rays interested in both EE and Yandy Diaz

posted by BR1986FB

Dodgers interested in Kluber, Rays interested in both EE and Yandy Diaz

In line with my Kluber thinking of let younger players produce, I want to see Yandy at 1B for a season (or DH). Not a fan of trading someone who is that talented with a bat in his hands before giving him a shot with us first. And being unproven and older, won’t get a lot in return. This has Jesus Aguilar written all over it...

I'm okay with trading Kluber under one condition. It better be for a player in the other teams starting lineup and some prospects.

EE- I am okay with this.

Yandy- NO,NO,NO, and NOOOOOOO.

Looking at bringing back Santana? I can only assume this means Edwin and Yonder would be dealt first. I’m cool with that, but odd if they are trying to shed salary.

posted by Laley23

Trading Kluber is the right move. Despite what people want to believe.

I don’t buy that at all, unless your goal is just to contend for the AL central and be happy with that... just to extend “the window” for a couple of extra years. If you actually intend to win the World Series, why would you trade all star pitching ( let alone Cy Young pitching) for young prospects .... so say you do that and now you find yourself in July and you have to make deal to strengthen the playoff run.... now your dealing away prospects to get back what you traded away. It makes no sense to trade an Ace now when he has a relatively team friendly contract.

posted by HitsRus

I don’t buy that at all, unless your goal is just to contend for the AL central and be happy with that... just to extend “the window” for a couple of extra years. If you actually intend to win the World Series, why would you trade all star pitching ( let alone Cy Young pitching) for young prospects .... so say you do that and now you find yourself in July and you have to make deal to strengthen the playoff run.... now your dealing away prospects to get back what you traded away. It makes no sense to trade an Ace now when he has a relatively team friendly contract.

Tribe is way behind the 8-ball in competing with the rest of the AL in every aspect but SP. even without Kluber, they can be right there in that department. Why not get better overall, have a better chance to win now and in future, while dealing him with his best years behind him?

LGT summed it up pretty well. I disagree with the players they threw out as a return, but the premise is my thinkjng exactly.

https://www.letsgotribe.com/2018/12/10/18134447/your-corey-kluber-trade-takes-are-bad

^^^ well, I think it’s one thing if they’re in complete rebuilding mode, another thing if you are trying to win now. Call me old school, but I think of those teams of the 90’s that had everything but an Ace and I wonder “ if only”.

The other thing I don’t buy is that Kluber is in “ decline”...or that he is on the “wrong side of 30”. I don’t find that applicable for pitchers... e.g. Justin Verlander is 35.

 Most certainly,  if someone is going to knock my socks off with an offer too good to pass up, I’m okay with that.... but if it’s a deal like Gomes,,, No, just No!

I don't think they are in a complete rebuild as they are more in a retool. Antonetti even said that if they were in a rebuild, "this would look a lot different"" (as in the players moved)

I like Kluber but if they can deal him while he still has some value, I'm all for it. I can see a decline coming and have been kind of leery about him since 2017. I know he's put up good numbers but something has just seemed "off" with him and I'd rather they part with him before he falls off the cliff. Now granted, I wouldn't deal him for a sack of magic beans....needs to make sense and bring back some value.

I think they are just trying to stay competitive up until Lindor becomes a Yankee. Also think, as composed, even with adding a few pieces this team isn't a legit championship threat.

Santana coming home, and EE to Seattle! Love the upgrade. Odd with contracts and salary...

Now just gotta dump Yonders sorry ass on someone. Yandy can hit DH for all I care, and now we have a potential GG at 1B, so don’t need a big return for Yonder (not that he would garner one anyway).

What is Seattle doing?

EDIT: maybe not straight up. Tampa may be involved as a 3rd team.