NFL Playoff Thread

Ironman92 Administrator
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Mon, Jan 21, 2019 5:41 PM
posted by like_that

NFL Live is currently debating if the Saints/Rams no call is the worst call/no call in NFL history.  Agree/Disagree?  I can't think of anything else that would top it, except tuck rule and I think it easily tops the tuck rule.

The refs were terrible in NFC Championship. I was rooting for the Saints but this worst non call ever.....watching it live it looked bang bang per our given camera angle. When it’s seemingly bang bang the refs almost always allow it. Replay showed it was a missed call. The ball isn’t coming directly to the receiver and that creates a bit more deception of how early the defender was. He was early and the call was missed at it was colossal.

 

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Mon, Jan 21, 2019 5:59 PM

Umm I watched in live play and I could tell it was obvious DPI. And I had money on Rams. 

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Mon, Jan 21, 2019 6:11 PM
posted by Ironman92

.watching it live it looked bang bang per our given camera angle.

 It did not look bang bang. And there were two guys right there live. It was an abomination. 

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Mon, Jan 21, 2019 6:21 PM

The worst part of that video by Brady is that it comes across as the defending champs...but they lost last year. So fuck right off.

Ironman92 Administrator
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Mon, Jan 21, 2019 6:35 PM
posted by iclfan2

 It did not look bang bang. And there were two guys right there live. It was an abomination. 

Watching it live I disagree. In the end it turned out a bad call. The original angle live I thought it was bang bang.

 

Ironman92 Administrator
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Mon, Jan 21, 2019 6:36 PM
posted by Laley23

The worst part of that video by Brady is that it comes across as the defending champs...but they lost last year. So fuck right off.

I thought it was weak Gronk was in AFC Champ shirt.  That’s weak for any tenured Pats player or fan of more than 2 years

 

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Mon, Jan 21, 2019 6:55 PM
posted by Ironman92

Watching it live I disagree. In the end it turned out a bad call. The original angle live I thought it was bang bang.

 

Not sure what you saw that made it seem bang bang. It was a very clear blown call, even in live action. 

Ironman92 Administrator
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Mon, Jan 21, 2019 7:46 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Not sure what you saw that made it seem bang bang. It was a very clear blown call, even in live action. 

Not sure either. Several of the live calls that went on to be replayed I saw those as they happened. I’m not defending those refs, like said there were two there to see it. Should’ve been called, I’m just saying I didn’t think it was criminal as I watched it live. 

 

Verbal Kint Senior Member
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Mon, Jan 21, 2019 8:04 PM
posted by Ironman92

Not sure either. Several of the live calls that went on to be replayed I saw those as they happened. I’m not defending those refs, like said there were two there to see it. Should’ve been called, I’m just saying I didn’t think it was criminal as I watched it live. 

 

Well, no.  Slow down frame by frame of two guys colliding at 20mph about 1/4 of a second before the ball was there and it looks atrocious.  The call was clearly missed for someone at that level even at live speed.  They should be perfect on that.

Ironman92 Administrator
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Mon, Jan 21, 2019 8:11 PM
posted by Verbal Kint

Well, no.  Slow down frame by frame of two guys colliding at 20mph about 1/4 of a second before the ball was there and it looks atrocious.  The call was clearly missed for someone at that level even at live speed.  They should be perfect on that.

They should be perfect at that?

They blew the call. Calls were missed all game long. Refs are never going to be perfect at any type of call.

 

Spock Senior Member
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Mon, Jan 21, 2019 10:05 PM

NFL refs make about $15,000 a game.  Playoffs likely a lot more.  For that money....they shouldn't miss a call that anyone can see.

thavoice Senior Member
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Mon, Jan 21, 2019 10:09 PM
posted by Ironman92

The refs were terrible in NFC Championship. I was rooting for the Saints but this worst non call ever.....watching it live it looked bang bang per our given camera angle. When it’s seemingly bang bang the refs almost always allow it. Replay showed it was a missed call. The ball isn’t coming directly to the receiver and that creates a bit more deception of how early the defender was. He was early and the call was missed at it was colossal.

 

I dont think it looked bang bang at the time.   Plus it was head to head and I saw less called during the regular season.     

They did kind of hose themselves on how they called plays down there but man, calls lke that cannot be made in the NFL.   

 

 

Ironman92 Administrator
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Mon, Jan 21, 2019 10:14 PM

Referees always going to miss calls. Expecting perfection is silly on any aspect of it. Hell they’ve messed fucking heads or tails.

Bot a lot of reasons why another official couldn’t be up in a booth and watching game like everyone else and watching replays just like they show us. He could buzz down and fix virtually any call throughout the game.

Verbal Kint Senior Member
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Mon, Jan 21, 2019 10:16 PM
posted by Spock

NFL refs make about $15,000 a game.  Playoffs likely a lot more.  For that money....they shouldn't miss a call that anyone can see.

Well, it is an average of $10,500 per game.  

thavoice Senior Member
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Mon, Jan 21, 2019 10:18 PM
posted by Ironman92

Referees always going to miss calls. Expecting perfection is silly on any aspect of it. Hell they’ve messed fucking heads or tails.

Bot a lot of reasons why another official couldn’t be up in a booth and watching game like everyone else and watching replays just like they show us. He could buzz down and fix virtually any call throughout the game.

Ha. I was at that messed up heads/tails game on thanksgiving.  

I dont want any more interruptions, but I am waning in that stance and willing to allow them to buzz down in the last part of the 4th qtr, basically a point in the game where it makes it almost impossible for teams to make up for a bad call.  Early in the game, it can be made up by teams. I dont want it to be like college where they buzz down on fringe plays

 

 

Verbal Kint Senior Member
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Mon, Jan 21, 2019 10:29 PM
posted by thavoice

Ha. I was at that messed up heads/tails game on thanksgiving.  

 

The "Hea-Tails" call by Bettis?

thavoice Senior Member
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Mon, Jan 21, 2019 10:37 PM
posted by Verbal Kint

The "Hea-Tails" call by Bettis?

Yeah. At the time I could see Bettis getting adamant about something but of course we knew nothing about the controversy until we got home later that day.

 

 

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Tue, Jan 22, 2019 12:09 PM

Thoughts?

The MMQB@theMMQB

After Sunday’s officiating debacle, the league must adopt Bill Belichick’s idea to make all plays reviewable, and streamline replay technology. @AlbertBreer on the fallout from championship weekend, and what comes next:http://go.si.com/p5emjQC 

8:30 AM - Jan 21, 2019

Ironman92 Administrator
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Verbal Kint Senior Member
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Tue, Jan 22, 2019 1:07 PM
posted by BR1986FB

Thoughts?

The MMQB@theMMQB

After Sunday’s officiating debacle, the league must adopt Bill Belichick’s idea to make all plays reviewable, and streamline replay technology. @AlbertBreer on the fallout from championship weekend, and what comes next:http://go.si.com/p5emjQC 

8:30 AM - Jan 21, 2019

Appears to work okay for the Canadians

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