LOCKED: Browns BS Drama Continued...

I got one for ya, S&L...supposedly the voice of the Browns, Jim Donovan, is claiming that the Browns have threatened to take QB's at #1 AND #4 to try to drive up the value. Goes back to your "use your 1st rounder in every draft to take a QB" except they'd be doubling down. I think we all know this isn't going to happen because, frankly, it would be stupid unless they turned around and traded the guy they took at 4.

posted by BR1986FB

I got one for ya, S&L...supposedly the voice of the Browns, Jim Donovan, is claiming that the Browns have threatened to take QB's at #1 AND #4 to try to drive up the value. Goes back to your "use your 1st rounder in every draft to take a QB" except they'd be doubling down. I think we all know this isn't going to happen because, frankly, it would be stupid unless they turned around and traded the guy they took at 4.

I’ve actually thought about this in my head lol  take Darnold at 1, and Rosen at 4. One of them will be a top 10 QB. Lol

I'd rather take Darnold/Rosen than Allen[Ever]/Barkley/Minkah at 4

posted by SportsAndLady

I’ve actually thought about this in my head lol  take Darnold at 1, and Rosen at 4. One of them will be a top 10 QB. Lol

The thought was Darnold at 1 and Allen at 4. Highly doubt Rosen falls to #4. What's funny is that, from what I'm hearing, Rosen doesn't even seem to be a thought or consideration for the Browns. Had heard Dorsey had his mind made up on him before he joined the Browns?

I will say that I wouldn't have an issue with them pulling a Redskins and taking the QB at 1 and taking a flyer later on a Falk or White ala RGIII/Cousins type deal later in the draft..

Taking the QB at 1 & 4 is a bad deal though. Sends a bad message to the guy selected #1 overall.

I also get this feeling that Dorsey is going to be the "anti-Sashi." Instead of trading down, and stockpiling (he may trade down to move back up), I think he will use some of these 2nd's to get back up into the 1st round. I don't think he wants a ton of rookies on this roster.

posted by SportsAndLady

I’ve actually thought about this in my head lol  take Darnold at 1, and Rosen at 4. One of them will be a top 10 QB. Lol

not necessarily...it's the Browns

***Updated*** The Wentz to Philly trade:

C. Coleman

Peppers

Damarious Randall (for Kizer)

R. Louis

S. Coleman

Drango

Kindred

Payton

2018 4th overall

2018 64th overall

2019 7th rnd (for Kessler)

I'm shocked they even got a 7th rounder for his noodle arm ass...."trust me" on that.

I have a bad feeling they’re going Allen. And I’m going to lose my fucking mind if they do. 

posted by kizer permanente

I have a bad feeling they’re going Allen. And I’m going to lose my fucking mind if they do. 

I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum. I'm about 95% sure it will be Darnold. He's the safe pick. Might not be the best pick but I don't see Dorsey coming out of the gate taking a risk with a QB that can't read defenses who has played limited competition. I know the competition factor doesn't weigh in much, after Wentz, but I get the feeling that's his thought process.

I'm sure COA saw this but there's a poster on the OBR who claims to know someone who is tight with Dorsey. Claims Hue was forced on Dorsey because Haslam wanted to prove he could keep a coach 3 years but Hue's ass is likely gone after 2018-19 regardless. Also sounds like the Haley hiring was on Dorsey and he (Haley) will have total offensive control.

I believe the 2nd half of your statement for sure. No chance Hue even wanted an OC, especially not one with full control. I hope the team does decent and still fires Hue, I really hate him.

I juat can’t imagine it being Allen, I think it’s more media than scouts. 

just saw another mock last night on NFL Network that had Barkley at #1 and Darnold at #4...and don't shoot the messenger!

posted by vball10set

just saw another mock last night on NFL Network that had Barkley at #1 and Darnold at #4...and don't shoot the messenger!

I would hope if he were available the Jets would take Darnold at #3.

posted by vball10set

just saw another mock last night on NFL Network that had Barkley at #1 and Darnold at #4...and don't shoot the messenger!

I GUARANTEE the Browns will NOT take Barkley at #1. If I'm wrong, I will leave the OC for one year. That's how confident I am that Dorsey values RB's in rounds 2-6 and will not  be stupid enough to burn a #1 overall pick on a RB.

It's not a reference towards you, as I know you're just passing along info, but Dorsey won't take Barkley at that spot.

LOL, don't leave. How 'bout you have a Steelers avatar for a year if they take him #1?

posted by justincredible

LOL, don't leave. How 'bout you have a Steelers avatar for a year if they take him #1?

I can only have so many avatars. I already have a bet with like_that with me predicting the Cavs don't make the NBA Finals. I'm expecting a "Roethlisberger in a dress" avatar, or some shit like that, if I lose.

I'm saying with certainty that Dorsey will NOT take Barkley at 1. If he does, he should be released of his duties immediately. Right now, RB & CB, after what they did in FA, are priorities but they are not major priorities. Those are positions they can wait until the 2nd/3rd round to fill. They need a QB, LT, DL, LB and WR as their top priorities, imo.

I don’t think they take Barkley 1 overall either. I think that’s a media driven thing because everyone loves talking about Barkley. 

I also highly doubt Darnold will be available at 4. 

posted by SportsAndLady

I don’t think they take Barkley 1 overall either. I think that’s a media driven thing because everyone loves talking about Barkley. 

I also highly doubt Darnold will be available at 4. 

Agreed on both points. I also think that Josh Allen is a media driven thing. Yes, he looks like a Roethlisberger clone (not as fat) and has a cannon for an arm but he can't read a defense.

Barkley isn't going one.  I also have a hard time believing that Allen is neck and neck with Darnold too. The Browns gave Darnold VIP++++++ treatment, and no other QB has been given the same treatment.  Also, I bet it is very easy to view the tape and see Allen isn't even close to being on par with the other QBs.

posted by justincredible

LOL, don't leave. How 'bout you have a Steelers avatar for a year if they take him #1?

worse than being water-boarded

for the record, I 100% agree that Barkley won't go #1, but just to prove I'm not blowing smoke (see Charles Davis)...

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/mock-drafts