The Russia/Ukraine situation

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Fri, Mar 11, 2022 10:48 AM
posted by QuakerOats

Too busy cleaning up the Mig issue and Harris' embarrassing presser in Poland.

She reminds me what it would be like if we suddenly sent my mother-in-law over there.  She seems to have a similar grasp on history, geography and events.  This is a Sarah Palin situation come to life.  At least Trump had a competent person behind him.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Fri, Mar 11, 2022 11:31 AM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

She reminds me what it would be like if we suddenly sent my mother-in-law over there.  She seems to have a similar grasp on history, geography and events.  This is a Sarah Palin situation come to life.  At least Trump had a competent person behind him.

She's a blathering idiot. She gets asked serious questions and she starts giggling like she's being tickled or something.

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Fri, Mar 11, 2022 11:49 AM
posted by BR1986FB

She's a blathering idiot. She gets asked serious questions and she starts giggling like she's being tickled or something.

A typical reaction when you don't know anything about what you're being asked.  

Heretic Son of the Sun
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Fri, Mar 11, 2022 12:15 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

She reminds me what it would be like if we suddenly sent my mother-in-law over there.  She seems to have a similar grasp on history, geography and events.  This is a Sarah Palin situation come to life.  At least Trump had a competent person behind him.

Well, competent when he was doing more useful things than "attending" an NFL game solely to stage a PR walk out.

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Fri, Mar 11, 2022 3:24 PM

If half the shit we have seen is true with this war, have drastically overestimated Russian military prowess for decades.

Some of the shit they are doing is just baffling. I just saw their third general was killed. (If true) generals are not supposed to be getting killed during wars.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Fri, Mar 11, 2022 3:36 PM
posted by like_that

If half the shit we have seen is true with this war, have drastically overestimated Russian military prowess for decades.

Some of the shit they are doing is just baffling. I just saw their third general was killed. (If true) generals are not supposed to be getting killed during wars.

Agreed. Russians are getting their tanks stolen by farmers on tractors. Seems like the only "ace" up Putin's sleeve are nukes.

majorspark Senior Member
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Fri, Mar 11, 2022 3:46 PM

If I were to guess I would say Russian troops are fearful to advance.  I read were the Russians have lost more tanks than are operational in the entire German army.  If true you have to be shitting your pants if you are a tank crew.

Have you seen the video of a tank column packed together on a main road like sitting ducks getting hit with artillery?  A couple of vehicles hit and u-turns.  From what I read the tank commander was killed.  By luck or intelligence who knows.  It looked to me like when that happened "lets get the fuck out of here".

gut Senior Member
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Fri, Mar 11, 2022 3:58 PM

You have to remember Russia is half the size (by population) of the USSR, which was borrowing pretty heavily at the end and directing most of its resources into being a military superpower.

Russia today has a GDP of $1.7T.  While that ranks 11th globally, US military spending is more than HALF their entire GDP.

So, in hindsight, maybe it's not that hard to see why everyone overestimated them.

gut Senior Member
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Fri, Mar 11, 2022 4:02 PM
posted by majorspark

IHave you seen the video of a tank column packed together on a main road like sitting ducks getting hit with artillery? .

I heard they are forced to use the roads because the ground is too soft.  If true, that's a really really bad military decision.
majorspark Senior Member
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Fri, Mar 11, 2022 4:40 PM
posted by BR1986FB

Seems like the only "ace" up Putin's sleeve are nukes.

Russia is not going to use nukes.  It's a scare tactic meant to get the West to wet themselves.  That would only occur if Russia itself faced imminent destruction.

majorspark Senior Member
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Fri, Mar 11, 2022 4:43 PM
posted by gut
I heard they are forced to use the roads because the ground is too soft.  If true, that's a really really bad military decision.

Not just that but If your tanks can't move on soft ground they pretty much suck.

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Fri, Mar 11, 2022 5:40 PM
posted by like_that

If half the shit we have seen is true with this war, have drastically overestimated Russian military prowess for decades.

Some of the shit they are doing is just baffling. I just saw their third general was killed. (If true) generals are not supposed to be getting killed during wars.

They are a joke.  Putin’s strategy and his military have proven pathetic.  


Biden’s far from perfect, but I think he’s doing a pretty good job with this.  He sees Putin for what he is unlike his predecessor who got played by Putin and became his useful idiot.


majorspark Senior Member
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Fri, Mar 11, 2022 7:14 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie


Biden’s far from perfect, but I think he’s doing a pretty good job with this.  He sees Putin for what he is unlike his predecessor who got played by Putin and became his useful idiot.


I don't have a problem with how Biden is handling the current situation in Ukraine.  What I do have a problem with is how he is using it to cover himself domestically.  Shameless and disgusting.  #PutinPriceHike.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Fri, Mar 11, 2022 11:27 PM
posted by majorspark

Russia is not going to use nukes.  It's a scare tactic meant to get the West to wet themselves.  That would only occur if Russia itself faced imminent destruction.

I don't think he'll use them. I guess I meant that more as in that's the only way his army is going to beat anyone.

Some of the gear I've seen that the Russian soldiers are using (helmets, gas masks, etc) are straight out of the 1950's.

Fletch Member
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Sat, Mar 12, 2022 7:56 AM

The idea that the US and the UN have handled this well is a joke.  Putin was planning this for years.  He was moving pieces around right in front of the world for months and Biden was saying for over a month that ....."Well Russia is going to attack".


What did the UN or US do for that month?  Nothing.


So Putin attacks and then we put on "sanctions" and pulled their facebook pages only after a month of them killing children.


All those sanctions could have been put on beforehand.  

queencitybuckeye Senior Member
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Sat, Mar 12, 2022 8:20 AM

IOW, your hero could have done something other that suck Putin's crank for four years.

majorspark Senior Member
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Sat, Mar 12, 2022 9:20 AM

The driving factor in all this is not some government body.  It is people who want to be free.  People who would rather die than be subjugated.  How bad do you want it to send your wife and young children to safety to fight off these bastards knowing you likely will not see them again.  If you are counting on governments to not fuck things up you are going to be dissapointed 99% of the time by those selfish pricks.

Fletch Member
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Sun, Mar 13, 2022 3:44 PM

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2022/03/13/watch-iran-fires-ballistic-missiles-at-secret-israeli-bases-in-iraq-warns-of-harsher-response/


Oh fuck,  NATO countries are in serious trouble now.  The inability for the US and NATO to do anything to stop Russia just let all these other regimes to do whatever they fucking want.  


Now WWIII is going to start

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Sun, Mar 13, 2022 8:38 PM
posted by Fletch

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2022/03/13/watch-iran-fires-ballistic-missiles-at-secret-israeli-bases-in-iraq-warns-of-harsher-response/


Oh fuck,  NATO countries are in serious trouble now.  The inability for the US and NATO to do anything to stop Russia just let all these other regimes to do whatever they fucking want.  


Now WWIII is going to start

I hope you run for office someday.  Your ability to combine deep historical and geopolitical expertises, and to then distill it down to its essence in a way the rest of us can understand is remarkable.  But then to take that valuable knowledge and properly apply it in order to see the correct action every time- well I just find it amazing.  We’re lucky to be living in your time.  


gut Senior Member
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Sun, Mar 13, 2022 8:50 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

We’re lucky to be living in your time. 

Can you imagine the heads that would explode if President Biden sent Ambassador Trump to negotiate a peace deal with Putin?

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