Shots fired at Trump rally

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 9:50 AM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Herein lies the problem.  BOTH sides partake in this rhetoric.  Can’t you see that?  This divide is not being perpetuated by libs or right wingers alone  it is BOTH.  


Ha it was sarcasm. Bc the left cried about the violent rhetoric in the right as they themselves call Trump Hitler, nazis, a threat of democracy, etc. Biden just said a week ago to put a “bullseye” on Trump. 


iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 10:17 AM
posted by geeblock

I agree MAGA has been talking for two years about starting a second civil war and now today crying about the violent hate speech of the libs causing this  


lol real “she was asking for it” vibes.


CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 10:18 AM
posted by MontyBrunswick

What difference does it make? There were a bunch of bad headlines like this when things were unfolding. Media outlets refused to call it a shooting for like an hour.

USAToday was still posting stuff hastily as of last night when I went to bed. they had a blatant misspelling of "assassination" on their homepage.

it's not some grand scheme to make the situation look a certain way... they were just moving fast and producing shitty journalism.

I realize that, Cap'n Crunch. 

I wasn't sure if it was faked, like a few that I saw last night. You probably saw a few that were too. That's the difference made.

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 10:20 AM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Election over.

Trump should win in a landslide now. This plays directly into everything he has been saying for years. Next week will be a coronation for him as he plays this up as he should. 

Also, this is absolutely crazy and is closest this country has been to the chaos of 1968 and 1969.


btw, good to see ya back!

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 10:31 AM
posted by iclfan2

Ha it was sarcasm. Bc the left cried about the violent rhetoric in the right as they themselves call Trump Hitler, nazis, a threat of democracy, etc. Biden just said a week ago to put a “bullseye” on Trump. 


They both cry about this stuff everyday.  Trying to parse out which side is worse is a fool’s errand.  They’ve both contributed equally to our current situation.  


queencitybuckeye Senior Member
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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 10:46 AM

The cause was a no-life loser wanting to be noticed and had nothing at all to do with politics.

MontyBrunswick Senior Member
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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 10:46 AM
posted by CenterBHSFan

You probably saw a few that were too. That's the difference made.

i don't get my news from random social media posts, so no i didn't see any "faked" headlines. just shitty headlines from big news organizations.

gut Senior Member
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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 11:07 AM

Other difference is on the right (politicians and media) the ugly rhetoric is mainly Trump.  But the entire left has been doing this for 20+ years.

That's why Trump is so popular - he's the first Republican to use the same vile rhetoric as the left.

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 11:19 AM
posted by gut

Other difference is on the right (politicians and media) the ugly rhetoric is mainly Trump.  But the entire left has been doing this for 20+ years.

That's why Trump is so popular - he's the first Republican to use the same vile rhetoric as the left.

This is simply not true.  There are all sorts of voices from the left and right who have been ratcheting this stuff up for years.  The left wing nuts are crazy extremists.  The right wing nuts are crazy extremists.  Unfortunately there are lots of both.  I think we’d all make progress if we quit splitting hairs about which side is technically worse.  There’s no winners in that.  Meanwhile we’ve ceded our public discourse to the AOCs and MTGs of the world - inflammatory idiot.  


gut Senior Member
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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 11:39 AM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

This is simply not true.  There are all sorts of voices from the left and right who have been ratcheting this stuff up for years. 


I was talking specifically about the politicians and their media.  The party of "isms" have been using those labels perjoratively for 20+ years with anyone that disagrees with them.

Saying Trump is Hitler is over-the-top vile hyperbole.  Saying Biden is senile turns out to be true...

MontyBrunswick Senior Member
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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 11:44 AM

Oh good, another thread has devolved into a libs vs conservatives argument.

I'm out. God speed to all of you.

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 11:56 AM
posted by MontyBrunswick

Oh good, another thread has devolved into a libs vs conservatives argument.

I'm out. God speed to all of you.

Girl, bye lol

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 11:58 AM

For those who think this tragedy has won Trump the presidency, do you think that - if the Dems put up somebody else like Whitmer that it would make much of a difference at this point? Or would it still be full steam ahead either way?

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 12:00 PM
posted by gut

I was talking specifically about the politicians and their media.  The party of "isms" have been using those labels perjoratively for 20+ years with anyone that disagrees with them.

Saying Trump is Hitler is over-the-top vile hyperbole.  Saying Biden is senile turns out to be true...

Biden is senile is true.  Great replacement, New World Order, Soros, pro-life = holocaust, it’s all the trash.  All has been put forth by elected officials just the same as the left wing lunacy.


Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 12:00 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

For those who think this tragedy has won Trump the presidency, do you think that - if the Dems put up somebody else like Whitmer that it would make much of a difference at this point? Or would it still be full steam ahead either way?

I think Trump wins now regardless of the opponent.


jmog Senior Member
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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 1:44 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Election over.

Trump should win in a landslide now. This plays directly into everything he has been saying for years. Next week will be a coronation for him as he plays this up as he should. 

Also, this is absolutely crazy and is closest this country has been to the chaos of 1968 and 1969.


You sure? Are you a PhD in American Political Science? How could you possibly know? 


Kind of like we were all wrong about Biden bc we weren’t medical doctors right? Your take on that didn’t age well at all.


Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 1:50 PM
posted by jmog

You sure? Are you a PhD in American Political Science? How could you possibly know? 


Kind of like we were all wrong about Biden bc we weren’t medical doctors right? Your take on that didn’t age well at all.


He’s making an opinion.  Don’t be a dick.


Ironman92 Administrator
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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 2:03 PM

Shoot was a 20 year old republican but made a donation to the Democratic Party on Biden’s inauguration.

Both parents were well to do democrats.

Kid was a bit of a loner 

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 2:04 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

He’s making an opinion.  Don’t be a dick.


Excuse me, but are you new here?

We are all dicks.

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 2:08 PM
posted by Ironman92

Shoot was a 20 year old republican but made a donation to the Democratic Party on Biden’s inauguration.

Both parents were well to do democrats.

Kid was a bit of a loner 

Mental health issues imo.

He's at the age that suffered a lot from Covid. Forced isolation, couldn't graduate like normal, etc. If he already had issues, Covid mandates  compounded them 10 fold. 

Even without all of that - a person would have to be baseline nuts to do something like that. From the get-go.

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