Game of Thrones Final Season Discussion Thread

btw, THE most awesome thing about that episode....is the news that we're getting a Deadwood movie!!!!!!

It's been so long, though, that I just don't know.

posted by gut

btw, THE most awesome thing about that episode....is the news that we're getting a Deadwood movie!!!!!!

It's been so long, though, that I just don't know.

Haven’t we known about that for like a year now?

posted by Heretic

Little things like the Dothraki flying out with their flaming swords and war yells, only for everyone else to watch the fire dying down in the distance while everything gets more and more quiet were great touches.

That part was pretty awesome. All the Dothraki ride off into the night and just disappear. You knew everyone was fucked then. 

I also liked when Jon Snow was running down the Night King and he just just raised his hands and suddenly had a brand new army. 

posted by Laley23

Haven’t we known about that for like a year now?

 

You may have....first I've seen it.

I am a casual fan of the show but I have occasionally gone and read what the hardcore fans theorize about because my brother is a super fan who has read the books and stuff - and man - just can't believe the level of bitching by the heavily invested hardcore fans out there. Can people not just enjoy anything? It is entertainment and I was highly entertained. 

But maybe I'm biased because I always felt the whole "Arya goes off to become an assassin and there's all these others under providence from the Lord of Light aside from Jon" stuff was going to be dangling out there and that all came together in my humble opinion.

Jon can still be the prince that was promised and brought everyone including the dragons to face the Night King. That should have never been an indication that he was going to kill the Night King in a one-on-one battle.

Arya, to whom Jon gave needle setting her on the path to become an assassin - the only type of person who could conceivably get close enough to kill a creature that can raise dead people to fight for him - is the Light Bringer. She was forged in the darkness by the gods and the people on her list who the Lord of Light also gave providence to - the Hound, Berric, etc. Their purpose was to protect Arya all along as she grew into the Light Bringer. Her original trainer or whatever told her that she wasn't a boy or a girl but that she was a sword!

How could you get a more poetic death for the night king than being stabbed in the heart under a weirwood tree - the same way and place he was created in the first place? 

Could be totally wrong for sure but bottom line is I thought it made sense given Arya's whole character development and I imagine will get some more resolution and explanation in the final three episodes.

posted by ernest_t_bass

Based on the article, I would not be surprised if there isn't an "education" to the viewer in episode 6.  "OK, now that this is all done... why did THIS happen?"

I agree. My prediction is that we find out that Bran was not just bait but that he was playing chess against the night king and is some kind of vehicle for the Lord of Light/Many Faced God/Whatever You want to call it which could explain more as to why the Night King would want so specifically to target him???

We get some meta-story about how the Night King - created to destroy men - will never be fully dead because of the human condition or whatever unless our heroes "Break the Wheel" creating the urgency as to why Cersei must be defeated. The Wheel is broken and everyone lives happily ever after. 

really, i have a million things i'd have liked to see go different in that episode sunday, but at this point i'm just enjoying all this show has to offer while we can.

So over at "The Ringer" they claimed a GoT prequel is coming focused on the Long Night 1000 years ago.  Which might explain why there are unanswered questions with the Night King, and even potentially a premature exit.  In fact, if that is the case then you almost have to go a different direction for the ending or you're just kind of doing the same story twice.  And people and Iron Throne is perhaps more interesting and dramatic, and much more mainstream.

But if RR writes a substantially different ending then I might bother to read the last book.  I could totally see in his version that the NK goes to King's Landing and wipes it out, setting up the final battle for the Dawn.

Because while the books are "A Song of Fire and Ice", the HBO show is actually titled "Game of Thrones".  The prequel choice may have very well altered the path of the final season.

posted by gut

So over at "The Ringer" they claimed a GoT prequel is coming focused on the Long Night 1000 years ago.  Which might explain why there are unanswered questions with the Night King, and even potentially a premature exit.  In fact, if that is the case then you almost have to go a different direction for the ending or you're just kind of doing the same story twice.  And people and Iron Throne is perhaps more interesting and dramatic, and much more mainstream.

But if RR writes a substantially different ending then I might bother to read the last book.  I could totally see in his version that the NK goes to King's Landing and wipes it out, setting up the final battle for the Dawn.

Because while the books are "A Song of Fire and Ice", the HBO show is actually titled "Game of Thrones".  The prequel choice may have very well altered the path of the final season.

They won’t say specifically what it’s about, but GRRM has ruled out spinoffs and specifically Roberts Rebellion. So, the long night is the common theory, but nobody really knows.

I loved the episode, and loved how it played out.  But this had me rolling:

https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/bjjjjj/actual_footage_of_the_writers_after_episode_3/

And this...

https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/bjg0o7/hitler_is_also_pissed_about_episode_3/

Another lol

Another LOL.  (Again with disclaimer, though.  I have been perfectly and pleasantly pleased with this show, and I have no complaints.)

I think some of the anger or whining about the last two season from hard core fans is just stupid. I'd lump Star Wars and Avengers fanboys in here to that went apeshit over the Last Jedi and the Avengers ending. Just shut up and enjoy the ride. Sure, you can argue about some things here and there, but to blast the whole series and just go off is dumb and a waste of time. 

It is just a tv show/ movie. Specifically to GOT, this is probably the last TV show for a while where we all collectively watch and react to in real time. Enjoy the ride and last 3 episodes and quit bitching. 

So whoever plays Dany was on one of the talkshows last week....and she was like "OMG OMG OMG shit seriously goes down in Ep. 5"

Anyway, as far as Ep. 4.....pretty good.  Closed a number of arcs in a perfunctory, if not completely unexciting, way.  Beginning was pretty good, except I laughed at battle-scarred Ghost.  Don't have much issue with any of it, other than it was the predictable let-down.  Seriously, the end of the Tormund arc was kind of just crap.

I rarely complain about "fan-service".  Sure, it's a drunken pity-fuck.  Except it wasn't.  Just absurd.

And the Melisande thing at the end was kind of crap, too.  We know her, and she was kind of close to a few key players.  But that's supposed to be some sort of dramatic emotional death?  She was ALWAYS a red shirt.

Missande?

S8 E4: Mad Queen: Origin 

LOL and seriously, Bran with not so much as a recap of what he was doing, or how the magic was broken. just "It's your choice" 

FML this show is so good, but barring something completely unforeseen (we all agree that Dany is about to burn the city to kill Cersei, then Jon will have to kill her) we're going to look back on it when its over and call Jon coming back the Jump the Shark moment and everything after that sucked.

posted by j_crazy

S8 E4: Mad Queen: Origin 

Yeah, I take back the red shirt comment.  It was actually a brilliant tactical move, because Mad Queen is going to lose her last dragon (and probably her life) going for revenge.  What Cersei doesn't know is that Jon is actually heir to the throne.

I guess it makes sense for the Free Folk to go back, although I don't think Tormund would have abandoned Jon (like he did Ghost, lol).  Except you spent, like,1000 years trying to get over the wall.....then you're like "meh, this place is overrated, I'm going back!"

posted by ernest_t_bass

Missande?

If you type Missandei, spell check gives you Melisande.  So I blame google (really, you think they'd have the GoT names in there).