Progressives, part 3...

posted by iclfan2

Ok. Must be something else. Thanks for the info.

Moving from reliable energy to unreliable energy is not something the climate communists want the sheeple to know about. 

posted by QuakerOats

Moving from reliable energy to unreliable energy is not something the climate communists want the sheeple to know about. 

Texas?

That was essentially a transmission problem; it was not a raw material (nat gas) problem.  

There were no issues last week when temps plunged. 

posted by QuakerOats

That was essentially a transmission problem; it was not a raw material (nat gas) problem.  

There were no issues last week when temps plunged. 

Not all was well in Texas last week. You'd think a company HQ'd in Findlay, OH would have this winter thing figured out. Alas, that is not the case.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/marathon-galveston-bay-refinery-texas-shut-by-cold-sources-2022-12-24/

posted by bigorangebuck22

Not all was well in Texas last week. You'd think a company HQ'd in Findlay, OH would have this winter thing figured out. Alas, that is not the case.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/marathon-galveston-bay-refinery-texas-shut-by-cold-sources-2022-12-24/

A couple of years ago, Texas had a major freeze that shut down the grid in a lot of places.  There were transmission problems, but mostly it was lack of generation at coal and NG plants that caused the disruption.

Unfortunately not every occurrence in the world is simply traced to day-to-day Washington politics and ideologues emotional websites.

It was a lack of transmission which then created a loop-back effect.  The natural gas was, and is, bountiful. 

Happy New Year. 

posted by QuakerOats

It was a lack of transmission which then created a loop-back effect.  The natural gas was, and is, bountiful. 

Happy New Year. 

The stories of the plants that shut down must have been made up at the time by the liberal media.  Got it.

Natural gas plants create power which has to be distributed, but if transmission fails, the electricity that the nat gas plant also needs to operate itself is not available.   Let me know if I need to draw a loop, and then put a break in the loop, for illustration purposes.

Take care.

posted by QuakerOats

Natural gas plants create power which has to be distributed, but if transmission fails, the electricity that the nat gas plant also needs to operate itself is not available.   Let me know if I need to draw a loop, and then put a break in the loop, for illustration purposes.

Take care.

During the freeze in 2021 Texas, many plants were not functioning due to freezing at the plant (equipment), not due to lack of transmission.  This included wind, NG, coal and nuclear plants.  It is very easy to read about. 

The point is that not every occurrence can be simplified into sound bite politics.  In Texas, renewable and non renewable generation failed.  Or in your vernacular- both Marxist and patriotic power generation failed.  

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

During the freeze in 2021 Texas, many plants were not functioning due to freezing at the plant (equipment), not due to lack of transmission.  

And why were the plants so cold the equipment froze?

LOL, c'mon it's not hard.

posted by gut

And why were the plants so cold the equipment froze?

LOL, c'mon it's not hard.

Jesus, read up on it.  Outside equipment that wasn’t properly insulated froze up.  

I’m not saying they didn’t have transmission problems.  Some plants failed on their own however.  

The original point is not everything that occurs is due to a Tucker Carlson talking point.  

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

I’m not saying they didn’t have transmission problems. 

posted by gut
That's exactly what you said.  Verbatim.

My original post about this, I said "there were transmission problems".    I was never arguing that there weren't transmission problems.  The fact was in Texas in 2021 several plants shut down because equipment wasn't insulated to handle subzero temps.  You've gotten completely sidetracked.

posted by gut

And why were the plants so cold the equipment froze?

LOL, c'mon it's not hard.

Thank you.  At least someone gets it. 

So 19 Republicans oppose McCarthy as Speaker....in favor of Jim Jordan.

Well, at least we don't have to worry about any more crazy leftwing legislation for two years.

 QO: My resolution for 2023 is to try to see that not every occourance in the universe traces it's causes to Washington DC politics.  I'm going to do this by...by...by...by, (stubs toe) uugghhh! Fuckin' Biden!!!!

So it looks like everyone has found a politician that lies too much. It's almost like this Santos guy is just trolling everyone.

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

 QO: My resolution for 2023 is to try to see that not every occourance in the universe traces it's causes to Washington DC politics.  I'm going to do this by...by...by...by, (stubs toe) uugghhh! Fuckin' Biden!!!!

I hope all y'all stay healthy  this year, and I'll resolve to not give you too many headaches. 

What's the point of calling multiple votes to elect the Speaker if no one is willing to change their vote?

The interesting aspect is McCarthy can't even call for a plurality because the Dems are united in their votes.

posted by gut

What's the point of calling multiple votes to elect the Speaker if no one is willing to change their vote?

The interesting aspect is McCarthy can't even call for a plurality because the Dems are united in their votes.

That is a good question that makes me wonder just how far this is going to play out. Like, will we stll be having votes cast for speaker a year from now or is there some sort of contingency plan for if the majority party isn't capable of picking a person? It's entertaining as fuck, especially considering how it's all come about due to the crazies on the R side wanting a larger voice, but I have no idea what the resolution to any of this is.