Progressives, part 3...

I don’t think you’re wrong that some liberal policies would and do lead to increase in crime. I don’t think it’s by and large true outside of a few cities. I guess my point is you’re never going to get it under control in a large city. And large cities are typically going to lean left. If they shifted all right… you’d still have the crime. 

posted by kizer permanente

You mean the governments not out to get you after all? 

Maybe you still don't understand. Big government is bad, limited government, but not zero government is good. 

Is that simple enough?

posted by kizer permanente

I don’t think you’re wrong that some liberal policies would and do lead to increase in crime. I don’t think it’s by and large true outside of a few cities. I guess my point is you’re never going to get it under control in a large city. And large cities are typically going to lean left. If they shifted all right… you’d still have the crime. 

Of course you will still have crime, but Jacksonville and Miami are 2 good examples (and NYC with RG) of the crime rate dropping drastically when some Rs were in charge.

posted by kizer permanente

You mean the governments not out to get you after all? 

When they fill their constitutional roles, no. This includes protecting me and my property, and very little else.

posted by kizer permanente

Do you think a different party will come in and make crime go away? 

We've seen it happen in the biggest city in the United States.  New York was a dumpster fire and it got turned around bigly.  Unfortunately, the libs and leftists let it slip right back to where it was over the last 10 years. 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/massive-drop-people-moving-california-increase-people-leaving

Not shocked.  Could you imagine what this state looks like in a decade of this?

posted by Fletch

https://www.foxnews.com/us/massive-drop-people-moving-california-increase-people-leaving

Not shocked.  Could you imagine what this state looks like in a decade of this?

Umm ok, most large liberal states with people leaving in droves are run by democrats. Nice false equivalency.  /Kizer

posted by like_that

Umm ok, most large liberal states with people leaving in droves are run by democrats. Nice false equivalency.  /Kizer

Yeah that ultra conservative Colorado that people are flocking to. Makes sense.

posted by kizer permanente

Yeah that ultra conservative Colorado that people are flocking to. Makes sense.

I can’t tell if you actually think this is as good of an argument as your “big city,” or “the other side can’t fix it, so might as well not blame anyone” argument. 

posted by like_that

I can’t tell if you actually think this is as good of an argument as your “big city,” or “the other side can’t fix it, so might as well not blame anyone” argument. 

Again … it’s not an argument. it’s meant to show not everything is about politics which this site seems to live and die for. It’s kinda sad. Or maybe actually pathetic?  You guys def seem like you’d be really fun to hang around with.  “I see you’re drinking an IPA, Not sure I can talk to you since Fox News said you’re more likely to drink craft beer if you’re in the New Democratic Party” 

posted by kizer permanente

Again … it’s not an argument. it’s meant to show not everything is about politics which this site seems to live and die for. It’s kinda sad. Or maybe actually pathetic?  You guys def seem like you’d be really fun to hang around with.  “I see you’re drinking an IPA, Not sure I can talk to you since Fox News said you’re more likely to drink craft beer if you’re in the New Democratic Party” 

Even when shown actual evidence, like with the R mayors of major cities tending to lead to lower crime rates, you tend to stick to your guns and don't look at the real information in front of you, it doesn't surprise me that you believe CA movers are going to CO...

It literally takes 5 seconds to google "where are californians moving to"

posted by jmog

Even when shown actual evidence, like with the R mayors of major cities tending to lead to lower crime rates, you tend to stick to your guns and don't look at the real information in front of you, it doesn't surprise me that you believe CA movers are going to CO...

It literally takes 5 seconds to google "where are californians moving to"

What are you even talking about? I never even talked about where Californians are going to  just which states are growing. You just have to chime in for everything even if it means countering a point that wasn’t even made lol  jfc  

posted by kizer permanente

Yeah that ultra conservative Colorado that people are flocking to. Makes sense.

posted by jmog

Reading is difficult for you eh? 

posted by kizer permanente

Reading is difficult for you eh? 

Apparently it is for you, especially when you are the one that typed it  

posted by jmog

Apparently it is for you, especially when you are the one that typed it  

I understand that. What you don't understand is it has nothing to do with where Californians are moving.  It doesn't even mention them lol. I'm sure in that convoluted trap you call a mind you see it.. but its really not there. I promise.

posted by kizer permanente

Again … it’s not an argument. it’s meant to show not everything is about politics which this site seems to live and die for. It’s kinda sad. Or maybe actually pathetic?  You guys def seem like you’d be really fun to hang around with.  “I see you’re drinking an IPA, Not sure I can talk to you since Fox News said you’re more likely to drink craft beer if you’re in the New Democratic Party” 

Nice rant, but do you realize what thread you are posting in?  

Probably supports this.

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posted by like_that

Nice rant, but do you realize what thread you are posting in?  

I don’t believe he does, yet he claims others can’t read. 

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