Nut jobs on both extremes

Spock Senior Member
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Thu, Oct 25, 2018 11:21 AM

The media is about 90% to blame on the national rhetoric.  They spew everything in a negative tone.  Literally 100% of their coverage on Trump is bad.  CNN hasnt reported a positive story on Trump in a  year.  

They fail to go onto TV last night and tell everyone to stop.  They couldnt wait to get on TV and blame Trump.

8,788 posts 21 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Oct 25, 2018 11:27 AM
posted by iclfan2

I think the media deserves every criticism they get.

Calling them the enemy of the people is a biiiit much. 

But, yeah, they do not themselves any favors and are not blameless. 

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Thu, Oct 25, 2018 11:53 AM
posted by Spock

The media is about 90% to blame on the national rhetoric.  They spew everything in a negative tone.  Literally 100% of their coverage on Trump is bad.  CNN hasnt reported a positive story on Trump in a  year.  

They fail to go onto TV last night and tell everyone to stop.  They couldnt wait to get on TV and blame Trump.

Boo fucking hoo 

your precuous trump doesn’t get any love from CNN. You cry more than the libtards you accuse of always crying. 

friendfromlowry Senior Member
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Thu, Oct 25, 2018 12:14 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Boo fucking hoo 

your precuous trump doesn’t get any love from CNN. You cry more than the libtards you accuse of always crying. 

No shit. For someone who hates CNN so much he sure gives them a lot of attention. If you hate it so much, don't watch. It's not that hard. 

Heretic Son of the Sun
20,517 posts 190 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Oct 25, 2018 12:27 PM

Guys like CC and QQ are the exact same as the over-the-top lefties at Jezebel, Splinter and all the other former Gawker sites. They consider it their life's mission to drown themselves in "the other side" so they can constantly bitch about bias, unfairness and basically everything all the time. But it's always good for a laugh to watch them bitch about one side's bias, while being at least as biased in their own thinking. Essentially the real life version of the "unreliable narrator" literary trope.

fish82 Senior Member
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Thu, Oct 25, 2018 2:11 PM



 

So I guess the fistfight challenge is off, then. 

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Thu, Oct 25, 2018 2:22 PM
posted by iclfan2

Anyone see the picture the news posted of what it looks like? Doesn’t look very legit, basically screaming hi I’m a bomb.

Also, #magabomber, was the top trend on twitter. Guess the whole wait for some evidence missed everyone

 

Is it true they did not even contain a detonator?  If so, is it still a bomb?

8,788 posts 21 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Oct 25, 2018 2:48 PM
posted by fish82

 



 

 

So I guess the fistfight challenge is off, then. 

Damn. I had my money on Uncle Joe. 

posted by QuakerOats

 

Is it true they did not even contain a detonator?  If so, is it still a bomb?


I'd hold off on reserving any judgement about the nature of the bombs until the FBI/ NYPD delivers the official word. But, I'm sure you are racing to your own conclusions already. 

 

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Thu, Oct 25, 2018 2:57 PM

 

Sorry, just asking a couple of questions.

wkfan Senior Member
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Thu, Oct 25, 2018 3:00 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Calling them the enemy of the people is a biiiit much. 

But, yeah, they do not themselves any favors and are not blameless. 

Agreed - enemy of the people is a bit much, however they have made their bed by having a liberal or conservative lean when reporting the 'news'.

By leaning one way or the other, they have removed any objectivity they may have had.  Therefore, their reporting has a bias to it that blows their impartiality.

This goes for CNN, FOX, MSNBC...even the local stations of all media (print, radio and television).

If they want to recover any credibility, they need to go back to just reporting what has happened without putting their own spin on it.

8,788 posts 21 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Oct 25, 2018 3:12 PM
posted by QuakerOats

 

Sorry, just asking a couple of questions.

Bullshit. You have your agenda...

posted by wkfan

Agreed - enemy of the people is a bit much, however they have made their bed by having a liberal or conservative lean when reporting the 'news'.

By leaning one way or the other, they have removed any objectivity they may have had.  Therefore, their reporting has a bias to it that blows their impartiality.

This goes for CNN, FOX, MSNBC...even the local stations of all media (print, radio and television).

If they want to recover any credibility, they need to go back to just reporting what has happened without putting their own spin on it.

Problem is, even if they try and do that, Trump and the anti-media folks will just continue to pound them. There is also the Fox News problem. If all the other media go to calling the facts, then so does the right wing darling network as well. 
 

 

queencitybuckeye Senior Member
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Thu, Oct 25, 2018 3:21 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Bullshit. You have your agenda...

posted by wkfan

Agreed - enemy of the people is a bit much, however they have made their bed by having a liberal or conservative lean when reporting the 'news'.

By leaning one way or the other, they have removed any objectivity they may have had.  Therefore, their reporting has a bias to it that blows their impartiality.

This goes for CNN, FOX, MSNBC...even the local stations of all media (print, radio and television).

If they want to recover any credibility, they need to go back to just reporting what has happened without putting their own spin on it.

Problem is, even if they try and do that, Trump and the anti-media folks will just continue to pound them. There is also the Fox News problem. If all the other media go to calling the facts, then so does the right wing darling network as well. 
 

 

Neither "side" has ever been 100% down the middle, nor should they be expected to be. It's just gotten orders of magnitude worse and where they used some amount of subtlety to attempt to mask it somewhat, that no longer seems to be a concern.

QuakerOats Senior Member
11,701 posts 55 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Oct 25, 2018 3:26 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Bullshit. You have your agenda...

posted by wkfan

Agreed - enemy of the people is a bit much, however they have made their bed by having a liberal or conservative lean when reporting the 'news'.

By leaning one way or the other, they have removed any objectivity they may have had.  Therefore, their reporting has a bias to it that blows their impartiality.

This goes for CNN, FOX, MSNBC...even the local stations of all media (print, radio and television).

If they want to recover any credibility, they need to go back to just reporting what has happened without putting their own spin on it.

Problem is, even if they try and do that, Trump and the anti-media folks will just continue to pound them. There is also the Fox News problem. If all the other media go to calling the facts, then so does the right wing darling network as well. 
 

 

 

From another site:

 

Interesting how some stations are calling these "suspicious packages" while others are calling them "explosive devices."

Bomb expert on CNN Headline News just called them "Mickey Mouse" and not functional. Said the red and black wires are straight out of the movies.

queencitybuckeye Senior Member
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Thu, Oct 25, 2018 3:28 PM

They served their intended purpose.

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Thu, Oct 25, 2018 3:30 PM

Saw that CNN is reporting on the recipients of the "bombs" as "Trump's targets." As if he were sending the bombs himself.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Thu, Oct 25, 2018 3:34 PM
posted by justincredible

Saw that CNN is reporting on the recipients of the "bombs" as "Trump's targets." As if he were sending the bombs himself.

 

Taking irresponsibility to new levels.

 

queencitybuckeye Senior Member
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Thu, Oct 25, 2018 3:40 PM
posted by justincredible

Saw that CNN is reporting on the recipients of the "bombs" as "Trump's targets." As if he were sending the bombs himself.

That's every bit as bad as ANYTHING Trump has said about the media. They should be destroyed by every news outlet regardless of lean.

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Thu, Oct 25, 2018 3:44 PM

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Thu, Oct 25, 2018 3:47 PM
posted by wkfan

This goes for CNN, FOX, MSNBC...even the local stations of all media (print, radio and television).

If they want to recover any credibility, they need to go back to just reporting what has happened without putting their own spin on it.

why should they?  Their viewership stays strong enough for them to be profitable.  If enough people who believed the "mainstream" news media is unfair simply did not consume it, change would be inevitable due to market forces.

 

What really is the "mainstream news media".  Maybe 15-20 years ago, you could call it the major TV networks, cable news, and national newspapers.  Thaat still seems to be the definition of "mainstream news media" today.  That's problematic because a huge chunk of the population gets its news from outlets other than those mentioned above.  The barriers to entry for a news outlet are low, which means we have tens of thousands of choices.  Included in these choices are every flavor you could ever imagine: liberal, conservative, libertarian, anarchist, fascist, etc.  To say "the mainstream news media is liberal" is very misleading.  Maybe some of those traditional outlets lean more liberal.  But today, those traditional outlets only comprise a portion of how people receive their news.  "Mainstream media" is a meaningless term because it doesn't include all these others. 

 

Now I know a lot of people who watch a particular news outlet do so expressly because they disagree with it and therefore they can fuel their outrage.  But beyond these people, I cannot imagine anyone in this day-in-age who literally thinks we are somehow prisoners to some united message pushed by the "mainstream media".  

QuakerOats Senior Member
11,701 posts 55 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Oct 25, 2018 4:19 PM

 

Maybe what we need is the Volcker Rule for media.  If you want to be in the NEWS business then that is all you do.  No longer can the media outlet be in the NEWS business, and also the opinion, advocacy business.  Pick one, but the wall goes up between the two functions.

 

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