Impressed by the Trump administration part II

posted by SportsAndLady

You do realize who started this “stock market update” on the “praise trump” thread, don’t you? 

Ooh totally, I just like pointing out the hypocrisy of both sides.  

posted by geeblock

I read your links still looking for the part where they are getting food stamps or welfare. If anything it proves the point that illegals come here to work and contribute not get free welfare 

this is the key word here.  Why dont you go try to be an "illegal" anywhere in the world and see what happens.

posted by Spock

this is the key word here.  Why dont you go try to be an "illegal" anywhere in the world and see what happens.

So, are you saying you don't believe in American exceptionalism?  

posted by superman

So, are you saying you don't believe in American exceptionalism?  

no....someone is making a political point and talking about it in reference to someone being here illegally.  After you use that word.....you dont have a leg to stand on

posted by Spock

no....someone is making a political point and talking about it in reference to someone being here illegally.  After you use that word.....you dont have a leg to stand on

His point was in comparison to the rest of the world.  You made a comparison to how the rest of the world treats "illegals."

However, functionally speaking, perhaps the problem lies not in the fact that people come over, but in how difficult and/or time-consuming the process is to become legal.

What if the process of becoming a legal, tax-paying citizen were streamlined?  Surely you wouldn't have a problem with that.  It would cut down on the number of "illegals," would it not?

posted by O-Trap

What if the process of becoming a legal, tax-paying citizen were streamlined?  Surely you wouldn't have a problem with that.  It would cut down on the number of "illegals," would it not?

You can certainly streamline the process but I'm not sure that would help the bigger picture. Europe is right now struggling with myriad issues after welcoming an influx of migrants and some refugees. Flooded job markets and housing is not the least of the problems. Granted, Europe does not have as much "open" land as the US does and that also compounds the conundrum.

posted by CenterBHSFan

You can certainly streamline the process but I'm not sure that would help the bigger picture. Europe is right now struggling with myriad issues after welcoming an influx of migrants and some refugees. Flooded job markets and housing is not the least of the problems. Granted, Europe does not have as much "open" land as the US does and that also compounds the conundrum.

They have more than allow for their space problems to be justified, though.  It's the fact that so many are insisting on staying so close to city centers.

As for the job market, it's not nearly as much of a problem if you consider that for every person added to the supply of workers, you're also adding to the demand for products and services.  With more labor comes more buyers.  Nuance aside, there are too many countries with a higher rate of immigrants than the US whose economies are doing quiet well as a result.

posted by O-Trap

They have more than allow for their space problems to be justified, though.  It's the fact that so many are insisting on staying so close to city centers.
 

Now see, I've seen vids and reports saying the opposite lol! Tim Pool did some good work on this a year or two ago, along with other small indie journalists. It may be who/where/when, I don't know.
IMO both sides of the issue is worth considering and debating.

posted by CenterBHSFan

Now see, I've seen vids and reports saying the opposite lol! Tim Pool did some good work on this a year or two ago, along with other small indie journalists. It may be who/where/when, I don't know.
IMO both sides of the issue is worth considering and debating.

I saw one of those things that established a square footage necessity based on how densely people live, and it was particularly telling, especially when you started to compare the less-densely populated areas.

As I recall, if the world lived as densely as Manhattan (crowded, but still livable), you could essentially fit the world's population into New Zealand, which is, of course, established by just a math problem.

Now, obviously, most people probably don't want to live that densely, but if you space things out to something like people living as densely as they do in New Jersey, they could still fit into Russia, give or take.

Now, of course, this doesn't take into account the housing needs, but again, that establishes a demand that can be met by the increase in labor supply.

posted by ptown_trojans_1 

The Syrian removal is more execution than anything. We are just leaving our allies high and dry there. The Kurds are fucked. Turkey is going to wipe them out now.

 

You are a big NATO guy.  So you know that we are in a mutual defense treaty with Turkey.

posted by QuakerOats

Manufacturing Job Openings Reach All-Time High in October.
Manufacturing job openings reached a new all-time high (522,000) in the latest numbers from the Department of Labor…

 

Amazing how good all this Russian collusion has been for the American workforce.

 

Shocking how we haven't heard much from you during the recent market turmoil.  You were consistent in your weekly posts about he Dow and other market indicators when the seem to support your premise that Trump was the cause of the success.  Now that that the equity markets show some bumps, we suddenly are without your "change we can (finally) believe in" posts.  What gives?  I realize that yesterday's market fall was the result of the new democratic house which also began yesterday (according to your logic).  But what about the preceding weeks?  

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Shocking how we haven't heard much from you during the recent market turmoil.  You were consistent in your weekly posts about he Dow and other market indicators when the seem to support your premise that Trump was the cause of the success.  Now that that the equity markets show some bumps, we suddenly are without your "change we can (finally) believe in" posts.  What gives?  I realize that yesterday's market fall was the result of the new democratic house which also began yesterday (according to your logic).  But what about the preceding weeks?  

Jobs and employment is at an all time high and you want to talk about the stock market?  

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Shocking how we haven't heard much from you during the recent market turmoil.  You were consistent in your weekly posts about he Dow and other market indicators when the seem to support your premise that Trump was the cause of the success.  Now that that the equity markets show some bumps, we suddenly are without your "change we can (finally) believe in" posts.  What gives?  I realize that yesterday's market fall was the result of the new democratic house which also began yesterday (according to your logic).  But what about the preceding weeks?  

The market downturn coincides with the dems winning the House two months ago.  Obviously that is not the sole reason, but certainly a major factor as pro-growth legislation will stall.  Luckily much was accomplished prior thereto, which is why we get numbers like we did today:  another 312,000 new jobs added in December, blowing away all estimates.  Dow up nearly 600 points this morning on that strong number.  When the American economy has the shackles removed, great things can happen. 

Take care / God bless / Happy New Year

maga

posted by QuakerOats

 

The market downturn coincides with the dems winning the House two months ago.  Obviously that is not the sole reason, but certainly a major factor as pro-growth legislation will stall.  Luckily much was accomplished prior thereto, which is why we get numbers like we did today:  another 312,000 new jobs added in December, blowing away all estimates.  Dow up nearly 600 points this morning on that strong number.  When the American economy has the shackles removed, great things can happen. 

 

Take care / God bless / Happy New Year

 

 

 

maga

A+ Kool-Aid drinking there from the site's leading Partisanship >>>>>> Thinking proponent.

posted by Heretic

A+ Kool-Aid drinking there from the site's leading Partisanship >>>>>> Thinking proponent.

A 2,500 point decline (approx 10%) since the midterm election; numbers are numbers.

Good luck.

posted by QuakerOats

 

A 2,500 point decline (approx 10%) since the midterm election; numbers are numbers.

 

 

Good luck.

 

If numbers are numbers, Trump needs the market to finish just north of. 50 thousand to beat Obama

Trump Needs to up his game. He’s taking way too much time to fix the train wreck he inherited

LOL

posted by QuakerOats

 

A 2,500 point decline (approx 10%) since the midterm election; numbers are numbers.

 

 

Good luck.

 

Then I'd start angrily watch-dogging all the people pulling stock out. After all, if the House switched over, it was the will of THE PEOPLE. And if THE PEOPLE wanted Trump to have more checks and balances and if you always are trumpeting about THE PEOPLE, then you should be absolutely livid that after THE PEOPLE got what they wanted, the market didn't reflect their desire.

That is, unless you actually use THE PEOPLE as words meaning "WHAT I WANT". But of course, you wouldn't do that, would you?

Not that he’d admit

when you nail his balls to the wall ( that he shouldn’t have because he lost a bet to 2kool when Obama got re-elected) he just replies lol.

posted by QuakerOats

 

The market downturn coincides with the dems winning the House two months ago.  Obviously that is not the sole reason, but certainly a major factor as pro-growth legislation will stall.  Luckily much was accomplished prior thereto, which is why we get numbers like we did today:  another 312,000 new jobs added in December, blowing away all estimates.  Dow up nearly 600 points this morning on that strong number.  When the American economy has the shackles removed, great things can happen. 

 

Take care / God bless / Happy New Year

 

 

 

maga

LOL