Impressed by the Trump administration part II

O-Trap Chief Shenanigans Officer
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Wed, Dec 26, 2018 12:23 AM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Bro, yes they do. They do that every quarter. 

Yeah, it's sort of important that there's some semblance of open disclosure regarding the market, particularly since ... you know ... it's only been a decade since a financial crisis that largely resulted from an absence of open disclosure.

Then again, I'm not surprised that this is what Spock came up with.
 

posted by Spock

That and the fact that the leaches sucking the tit of our tax dollars.....the unfairness to our job markets......unfairness to the thousands of people in line trying to get in legally.

 

To suckle at that tit, you need a SSN.  Guess who doesn't have a SSN.

As for the lack of fairness in the job market, whose jobs are they stealing?
 

posted by Spock

Google it and you will find numbers all over the place due to biased media.  Somewhere north of 70 billion.

Translation: I just make shit up.  Either take my word for it, or YOU do the leg work.

 

Spock Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 26, 2018 8:37 AM

LOL at you thinking illegals dont have a SSN.  My brother runs a large company in NC and he had 12 people with the same SSN.

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 26, 2018 10:19 AM
posted by Spock

You can find that stat on government websites

Regardless, do you think a wall will stop the drugs moving into the country?  You made the point that 90% of the drugs come in over the border. So if the wall goes up, will that reduce the drugs coming in by 90% or something quite high like that?  

 

Assuming Trump understands that basic supply and demand will hold true in the drug market with or without a wall, I believe then his reason for the wall is to keep dark skinned people out.  They are different, so they are evil and scary.  I have yet to see a compelling case as to why his motivation is anything other than this. 

geeblock Member
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Wed, Dec 26, 2018 10:28 AM
posted by Spock

LOL at you thinking illegals dont have a SSN.  My brother runs a large company in NC and he had 12 people with the same SSN.

Given the fact that all total social programs combined cost the average tax payer a few dollars a year I don’t think it’s a huge issue 

queencitybuckeye Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 26, 2018 10:48 AM
posted by geeblock

Given the fact that all total social programs combined cost the average tax payer a few dollars a year I don’t think it’s a huge issue 

The "average" taxpayer pays next to nothing. OTOH, those of us who pay our share and tens of other peoples' shares, all government spending (aka theft) is a pretty big deal.

Spock Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 26, 2018 11:02 AM
posted by geeblock

Given the fact that all total social programs combined cost the average tax payer a few dollars a year I don’t think it’s a huge issue 

link?  We spend $5.8 billion a MONTH on just food stamps.  Doesnt sound like a few bucks.

jmog Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 26, 2018 11:13 AM
posted by geeblock

Given the fact that all total social programs combined cost the average tax payer a few dollars a year I don’t think it’s a huge issue 

I hope you are joking and are not serious.

 

jmog Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 26, 2018 11:15 AM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Regardless, do you think a wall will stop the drugs moving into the country?  You made the point that 90% of the drugs come in over the border. So if the wall goes up, will that reduce the drugs coming in by 90% or something quite high like that?  

 

Assuming Trump understands that basic supply and demand will hold true in the drug market with or without a wall, I believe then his reason for the wall is to keep dark skinned people out.  They are different, so they are evil and scary.  I have yet to see a compelling case as to why his motivation is anything other than this. 

Confirmation bias, you refuse to entertain any other reason and just assume you are correct. Therefore, even with a logical reasoning behind a wall you will just blow it off as it doesn't fit your narrative.

geeblock Member
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Wed, Dec 26, 2018 11:45 AM
posted by Spock

link?  We spend $5.8 billion a MONTH on just food stamps.  Doesnt sound like a few bucks.

I always thought it was around 75$ A year avg for a person making 100k if I remember reading correctly 

O-Trap Chief Shenanigans Officer
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Wed, Dec 26, 2018 11:46 AM
posted by Spock

LOL at you thinking illegals dont have a SSN.  My brother runs a large company in NC and he had 12 people with the same SSN.

Listing one for vocational reasons isn't exactly synonymous with public assistance, where a person's SSN is what SNAP benefits are actually tied to.

It's adorable that you think they're the same thing, though.

 

Spock Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 26, 2018 12:14 PM
posted by geeblock

I always thought it was around 75$ A year avg for a person making 100k if I remember reading correctly 

Just in social security for $100,000 salary.....social security is a "social program".  You are paying for other people to not work.  As for the rest of "social programs, Welfare and medicaid = over $700 billion:

 

http://federalsafetynet.com/welfare-budget.html

 

yea just a few dollars as you said.  GTFOH.....we can spend $50 billion on a wall.  Funny how the left , who loves to spend others peoples money all of a sudden are choking on the D of fiscal responsibility.

 

https://www.fool.com/retirement/2017/03/27/the-average-american-pays-this-much-in-social-secu.aspx

geeblock Member
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Wed, Dec 26, 2018 12:45 PM
posted by Spock

Just in social security for $100,000 salary.....social security is a "social program".  You are paying for other people to not work.  As for the rest of "social programs, Welfare and medicaid = over $700 billion:

 

http://federalsafetynet.com/welfare-budget.html

 

yea just a few dollars as you said.  GTFOH.....we can spend $50 billion on a wall.  Funny how the left , who loves to spend others peoples money all of a sudden are choking on the D of fiscal responsibility.

 

https://www.fool.com/retirement/2017/03/27/the-average-american-pays-this-much-in-social-secu.aspx

Illegals can’t get social security or welfare ir food stamps 

O-Trap Chief Shenanigans Officer
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Wed, Dec 26, 2018 1:20 PM
posted by geeblock

Illegals can’t get social security or welfare ir food stamps 

In fairness to Spock, it IS possible for undocumented immigrants to still qualify for WIC in obviously particular situations, and those born in the US as children of undocumented immigrants qualify for Medicaid (though the parents cannot).

However, the amount of social program spending that goes to illegal immigrants is negligible compared to most of our other spending.

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 26, 2018 2:12 PM
posted by jmog

Confirmation bias, you refuse to entertain any other reason and just assume you are correct. Therefore, even with a logical reasoning behind a wall you will just blow it off as it doesn't fit your narrative.

Everyone has confirmation bias - it’s part of the human condition.  I don’t refuse to entertain other reasons for a wall. I sad that I haven’t yet heard a compelling reason as to why it is happening.  

jmog Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 26, 2018 3:46 PM
posted by geeblock

Illegals can’t get social security or welfare ir food stamps 

You are somewhat naive...just because it is illegal for them to get a SS card or number, doesn't mean they don't do it/forge it.

 

https://www.quora.com/How-do-illegal-immigrants-get-a-social-security-number

 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/22/14-million-illegals-working-stolen-social-security/

 

Google is your friend.

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Thu, Dec 27, 2018 7:54 AM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

7k out soon. This is Trump's war now. If Afghanistan falls, it is in him now. 

The Syrian removal is more execution than anything. We are just leaving our allies high and dry there. The Kurds are fucked. Turkey is going to wipe them out now.

Also, it is a debate on whether ISIS is actually gone or not. I've read some well respected terrorism experts say this has vibes of the pullout in sections in Iraq that allowed ISIS to ultimately form some years ago. 

I think the bigger deal is process and how Trump doesn't give a shit about allies or strategic thought.  That is most likely why Mattis decided to leave. 

 

Your boy Bolton loves this post.

 

superman Senior Member
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Thu, Dec 27, 2018 8:10 AM

Came here to get my daily stock market update from our resident leftists.  

Spock Senior Member
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Thu, Dec 27, 2018 8:15 AM
 

Came here to get my daily stock market update from our resident leftists.  

 

 

CNN already has it set for a "tumble".......hard to believe.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/27/investing/dow-stock-market-today/index.html

 

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Thu, Dec 27, 2018 8:17 AM
posted by superman

Came here to get my daily stock market update from our resident leftists.  

You do realize who started this “stock market update” on the “praise trump” thread, don’t you? 

geeblock Member
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Thu, Dec 27, 2018 8:45 AM
posted by jmog

You are somewhat naive...just because it is illegal for them to get a SS card or number, doesn't mean they don't do it/forge it.

 

https://www.quora.com/How-do-illegal-immigrants-get-a-social-security-number

 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/22/14-million-illegals-working-stolen-social-security/

 

Google is your friend.

I read your links still looking for the part where they are getting food stamps or welfare. If anything it proves the point that illegals come here to work and contribute not get free welfare 

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