Disgusted with the Biden administration

gut Senior Member
18,369 posts 115 reps Joined Nov 2009
Tue, Jan 18, 2022 7:34 PM

In practice/function, most people's "bonuses" are pretty much guaranteed.  Some have a mix of "target" and "discretionary", but the former is basically an incentive to stick around the full year and isn't based on performance or profits.

Also, how in this day and age are most HR professionals incompetent when it comes to discussing comp?  COMPENSATION, idiot, of which base salary is only one of several components.  Oh, wait a minute, your bonus target is only 10%?  You don't offer health insurance?  I need to change my answer for base salary.

Here's a classic related to the above.  I had a discussion on a interim-to-hire position, and I know the market pretty well.  End up coming down to my bottom line number, which is still almost 50% higher than what they were offering.  So I asked a few questions, and was basically dead nuts on the fully loaded number, but their target was based only on the base salary.  I'm sitting there kind of dumbfounded - HOW IN THIS MARKET do you think you can offer a contract rate well below the total comp of the actual position?  Not to mention using long interim contracts as a screening tool probably won't work well in this labor market.

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Tue, Jan 18, 2022 8:29 PM

The other part about teaching evaluations is, we all had teachers. And we all knew who sucked and who didn’t, at like age 8. So no, I don’t need test results, it’s very easy to know who sucks or not. 

jmog Senior Member
7,737 posts 50 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Jan 19, 2022 6:12 AM
posted by gut

In practice/function, most people's "bonuses" are pretty much guaranteed.  Some have a mix of "target" and "discretionary", but the former is basically an incentive to stick around the full year and isn't based on performance or profits.

Also, how in this day and age are most HR professionals incompetent when it comes to discussing comp?  COMPENSATION, idiot, of which base salary is only one of several components.  Oh, wait a minute, your bonus target is only 10%?  You don't offer health insurance?  I need to change my answer for base salary.

Here's a classic related to the above.  I had a discussion on a interim-to-hire position, and I know the market pretty well.  End up coming down to my bottom line number, which is still almost 50% higher than what they were offering.  So I asked a few questions, and was basically dead nuts on the fully loaded number, but their target was based only on the base salary.  I'm sitting there kind of dumbfounded - HOW IN THIS MARKET do you think you can offer a contract rate well below the total comp of the actual position?  Not to mention using long interim contracts as a screening tool probably won't work well in this labor market.

Yup, how they don’t realize salary is just one “bucket”,, bonus, 401k matching, health care costs (premiums and total out of pocket), etc are all just different compensation “buckets” that will change your base salary requirement based on how “good” the other buckets are.




gut Senior Member
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Wed, Jan 19, 2022 2:11 PM

I just realized that Trump is the greatest campaigner in history - in 2016 he got Trump elected, then in 2020 he got Biden elected, and in 2024 he's going to get Hillary elected.

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Wed, Jan 19, 2022 2:36 PM

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Wed, Jan 19, 2022 2:48 PM

BILL: Hillary, I don't want to do another campaign for you.  Can't you see, the American people simply don't want you.

HILLARY: Bill, what's this I'm reading about this Ghislaine Maxwell woman procuring young girls for you, Prince Andrew and Epstein?

BILL: I'm here to help in any way I can Hill!

Heretic Son of the Sun
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Wed, Jan 19, 2022 3:06 PM
posted by gut

I just realized that Trump is the greatest campaigner in history - in 2016 he got Trump elected, then in 2020 he got Biden elected, and in 2024 he's going to get Hillary elected.

Trump vs. Hillary in 2024 is my cue to simply drop out of voting or caring about anything.

gut Senior Member
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Wed, Jan 19, 2022 4:17 PM

I can't believe Biden is blaming inflation on price gouging, again.

Wonder if he'll just completely mail in the last two years when Repubs take control of Congress next year.

You'd think he'd pivot to the center and work with Repubs to try to accomplish something for his legacy.  But if it isn't happening already, probably not changing.

Fletch Member
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Wed, Jan 19, 2022 4:31 PM
posted by gut

I can't believe Biden is blaming inflation on price gouging, again.

Wonder if he'll just completely mail in the last two years when Repubs take control of Congress next year.

You'd think he'd pivot to the center and work with Repubs to try to accomplish something for his legacy.  But if it isn't happening already, probably not changing.

The flaw in this is that you think Biden is actually in charge of anything.


QuakerOats Senior Member
11,701 posts 66 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Jan 19, 2022 4:56 PM

Hard to watch.


Meanwhile the Nasdaq is in correction territory now - down over 10%.




gut Senior Member
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Wed, Jan 19, 2022 5:29 PM

LOL...also, the idea that Biden is mentally fit for the job now appears to be a far left conspiracy.

gut Senior Member
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Wed, Jan 19, 2022 5:35 PM
posted by Fletch

The flaw in this is that you think Biden is actually in charge of anything.

Agree based on policy and appointments, and some of the rhetoric, he looks nothing like the moderate that he's always been and campaigned as.

The usual suspects can call it a conspiracy theory, but the fact is most of the country doesn't believe he's running things.

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Wed, Jan 19, 2022 9:17 PM
posted by gut

Agree based on policy and appointments, and some of the rhetoric, he looks nothing like the moderate that he's always been and campaigned as.

The usual suspects can call it a conspiracy theory, but the fact is most of the country doesn't believe he's running things.

I agree.  I think he’s “influenced” to do what he does - thereby technically making the decisions.  But he’s like a lot of guys his age - several speeds slower than in his prime.  


Imagine what Putin or Xi must think when talking with him.  Hell, imagine what Putin’s thought when talking to any of our last four president.  


Ironman92 Administrator
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Wed, Jan 19, 2022 10:55 PM
posted by iclfan2

The other part about teaching evaluations is, we all had teachers. And we all knew who sucked and who didn’t, at like age 8. So no, I don’t need test results, it’s very easy to know who sucks or not. 

This is funny but true.


The teacher evaluating system could not be easier.


Fletch Member
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Thu, Jan 20, 2022 7:53 AM
posted by Ironman92

This is funny but true.


The teacher evaluating system could not be easier.


Probably where you are at, they rubber stamping OTES for you?  They dont here.  

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Thu, Jan 20, 2022 8:06 AM
posted by Fletch

Probably where you are at, they rubber stamping OTES for you?  They dont here.  

A safe assumption is that every profession has its challenges, aspects that are “unfair”, etc.  I respect teachers because I’ve experienced many good ones.  I just find it interesting that someone who is totally reliant on tax dollars for his income likes to constantly rail against taxes and government.  It’d be like someone working for JP Morgan bitching about the stupidity of public exchanges.


jmog Senior Member
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Thu, Jan 20, 2022 12:03 PM
posted by Fletch

Probably where you are at, they rubber stamping OTES for you?  They dont here.  

So you moved away from the “we have it the worst” mantra once proven wrong and now just are sticking to more fringe arguments? Interesting tactic I guess   


Fletch Member
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Thu, Jan 20, 2022 12:06 PM
posted by jmog

So you moved away from the “we have it the worst” mantra once proven wrong and now just are sticking to more fringe arguments? Interesting tactic I guess   


No, putting out fires that you idiots start about things you dont have a clue about

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Thu, Jan 20, 2022 1:11 PM
posted by QuakerOats

https://nypost.com/2021/12/09/cabal-that-bragged-of-foisting-joe-biden-on-us-must-answer-for-his-presidency/




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