Disgusted with the Biden administration

posted by geeblock

He literally had 4 years to get us out of there and didn’t. So miss me with the impeach Biden. At least he got us the fu k out of there. It def didn’t go well as has been stated. But for trump and his Crowd to walk around taking victory laps in the failure is laughable 

I don’t disagree with anything you’re saying about Trump .  He bitched for 15 years about the failure of the “forever war” in Afghanistan and then did nothing of positive impact when he became president .  And yes he’s full of revisionist history now that he’s preaching to his followers and outside the responsibility of the office.  

But Biden failed mightily and no amount of “well, but Trump never…” can change that.  At least he got us out?  Yeah, like someone beating their head with a hammer to stop an itch.  “At least he stopped it”  

posted by kizer permanente

I mean… it’d be easier if you just told me how? 

Well the first place to start is with Justin.  If that don't work I guess you could seek out overlords to bend his knee.  Or you could do something as simple as providing your own legit argument like others have.  

posted by majorspark

Well the first place to start is with Justin.  If that don't work I guess you could seek out overlords to bend his knee.  Or you could do something as simple as providing your own legit argument like others have.  

Lol or you can learn to take a joke and not take everything so seriously  then you might realize no one gaf about you enough to report the shit u post ? 

posted by kizer permanente

Lol or you can learn to take a joke and not take everything so seriously

posted by geeblock

He literally had 4 years to get us out of there and didn’t. So miss me with the impeach Biden. At least he got us the fu k out of there. It def didn’t go well as has been stated. But for trump and his Crowd to walk around taking victory laps in the failure is laughable 

You read too much Twitter.

posted by kizer permanente

tHe TiMiNg WaSnT rIgHt LibTARd!!!11!!!

You read too much Facebook.

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

I don’t disagree with anything you’re saying about Trump .  He bitched for 15 years about the failure of the “forever war” in Afghanistan and then did nothing of positive impact when he became president .  And yes he’s full of revisionist history now that he’s preaching to his followers and outside the responsibility of the office.  

But Biden failed mightily and no amount of “well, but Trump never…” can change that.  At least he got us out?  Yeah, like someone beating their head with a hammer to stop an itch.  “At least he stopped it”  

The coping of Biden’s failure is sad and pathetic. If the best you can do is bring up Trump to defend Biden, then it’s not really a strong argument, especially when Biden played a big part of this 20 year shit show prior to taking office. I am not surprised to see certain people pretend he just inherited this mess though. 

 It’s ok to admit the Biden Administration completely failed with this withdrawal.  Anyone who actually paid attention to the Biden campaign is not shocked by how these events took place. They literally ran on “we are not Trump,” and hid from the public for the majority of the time.  That’s pretty much how this administration ran for Biden’s first 7 months in office as well, until all of this erupted.  They weren’t meant to be in the spotlight making tough decisions and answering (for once) tough questions.  This past month has done nothing, but confirm it. They are just not good at this job. Biden’s grade as a commander in chief is currently a F. Hopefully he improves that grade in the next 3.5 years considering lives will be on the line. 

This is by no means an endorsement for Trump. He should have withdrawn during his 4 years, but he played politics with the withdrawal.  I naively thought TDS would go away with Trump gone, but it looks like some people need therapy to let it go. 

posted by gut

no im kinda misanthropic. 

posted by geeblock

He literally had 4 years to get us out of there and didn’t. So miss me with the impeach Biden. At least he got us the fu k out of there. It def didn’t go well as has been stated. But for trump and his Crowd to walk around taking victory laps in the failure is laughable 

Fire take

posted by justincredible

Fire take

man you been in a bad mood lately

Based on a couple of shitposts?

posted by justincredible

Based on a couple of shitposts?

nah your whole demeanor. It's just not like you. I get we're in fucked up times so I understand it.. just sucks to see it from you. You've always kinda been the one who blows shit off and makes fun of stuff. You legit seemed pissed off at the world anymore. Hope nothings too bad going on right now. I appreciate the work you do here, fwiw, even tho i know that doesnt mean shit lol. 

I mean, I definitely still make fun of stuff, but sure, I do doompost a bit as well. I appreciate the concern, but I'll be fine. Or I won't, I can't predict the future.

posted by kizer permanente

I appreciate the work you do here, fwiw, even tho i know that doesnt mean shit lol. 

No, but the "Buy me a Beer" button in the footer sure means something... :)

I'll even spend it on Rhinegeist.

posted by justincredible

No, but the "Buy me a Beer" button in the footer sure means something... :)

I'll even spend it on Rhinegeist.

you got it homie.

posted by kizer permanente

you got it homie.

wait.. paypal? is this 1999? lol  where's zelle?

Honestly, I'm ashamed I don't accept bitcoin. Everyone on here is a boomer anyway, most people request to send me a check.

posted by gut

https://www.reuters.com/world/excerpts-call-between-joe-biden-ashraf-ghani-july-23-2021-08-31/

Can't wait to see "moderate" Ptown's take... But most people will land somewhere between Biden had an uninformed and incompetent command of the situation, and asking a foreign leader to deceive the international community and American people in order to provide political cover for Biden's bungling.

I read that and my mind went right back to conversations with South Vietnam before the collapse. Biden is telling the Afghan President, hey get your shit in order and use that 300k army. Turns out that 300k army was a shell of itself, just like in Vietnam. The Afghan President did himself no favors here either as he just bolted when the collapse was coming. He seemed to suggest hey things are not great here in that convo, but he himself did not really convey how dire the situation was. Was it because he did not know or was he covering it up? Unclear. 

posted by justincredible

Honestly, I'm ashamed I don't accept bitcoin. Everyone on here is a boomer anyway, most people request to send me a check.

can you update zelle or venmo so i dont have to create a paypal lol

posted by like_that

The coping of Biden’s failure is sad and pathetic. If the best you can do is bring up Trump to defend Biden, then it’s not really a strong argument, especially when Biden played a big part of this 20 year shit show prior to taking office. I am not surprised to see certain people pretend he just inherited this mess though. 

 It’s ok to admit the Biden Administration completely failed with this withdrawal.  Anyone who actually paid attention to the Biden campaign is not shocked by how these events took place. They literally ran on “we are not Trump,” and hid from the public for the majority of the time.  That’s pretty much how this administration ran for Biden’s first 7 months in office as well, until all of this erupted.  They weren’t meant to be in the spotlight making tough decisions and answering (for once) tough questions.  This past month has done nothing, but confirm it. They are just not good at this job. Biden’s grade as a commander in chief is currently a F. Hopefully he improves that grade in the next 3.5 years considering lives will be on the line. 

This is by no means an endorsement for Trump. He should have withdrawn during his 4 years, but he played politics with the withdrawal.  I naively thought TDS would go away with Trump gone, but it looks like some people need therapy to let it go. 

I get some of that and you may be right. I also understand that no administration would have done this correctly. Biden's actions were pretty bad, but this is just the latest in line with strategic surprises and failures. It is amazing how little we learn from our past mistakes. The writing was on the wall from human rights groups, the State Department and Afghan translators. 

I do agree that Biden does deserve a good amount of blame for his Obama time in office. But, if you go back and read the decision making in the time for the surge in 09-10, Biden was one of the ones saying we need to get out and was against the surge of troops. Gates and Clinton were in favor of the surge and they won the argument. 

I think the big thing to blame Biden on is his inability to adapt to the situation. He made the decision to get out. He did not listen to any earlier guidance from generals, State, or Afghans saying hey, speed up the withdraw of people here. It seems he was one track focused, getting out. It seems like he looked at the generals and other people around the room and said, their advice has been wrong for 20 years, why should I listen to it now? That single focus on ignoring things until it below up in our face, and the failure to see the collpase coming is what made this mess.