2024 Presidential Election Thread

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Tue, Sep 10, 2024 9:44 PM

I think the abortion topic is working out to be a wash. She could have won this easily, but got too emotional and over-acted.

Edit to add:

Trump asked her directly what she would do in the scenario of an 8th month pregnancy and she wouldn't answer. "Come on"

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Tue, Sep 10, 2024 9:49 PM
posted by iclfan2


lol she pissed him off by instead of answering about immigration talking shit about his rallies, then he went off the rails with the Springfield pet shit.

Agreed.

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Tue, Sep 10, 2024 10:26 PM

I'm at work so I have to pause the stream a lot. I just finished with the section where Trump said that Putin endorsed Kamala and now it's on break.

But so far I think they are even in the dings and lies.

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Tue, Sep 10, 2024 11:24 PM

Trump did not do well. Was not prepared for what were all pretty obvious questions.

Kamala did enough. Not sure it moves any voters, but she wasn’t Biden. 

Moderators were awful and Trump should probably just not agree to another debate. 

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Tue, Sep 10, 2024 11:42 PM
posted by iclfan2

Trump did not do well. Was not prepared for what were all pretty obvious questions.

Kamala did enough. Not sure it moves any voters, but she wasn’t Biden. 

Moderators were awful and Trump should probably just not agree to another debate. 

Yeah, I agree. But I also think that there wasn't a clear "winner". I think that the dings towards each other were about even. She over-acted and he's not a good speaker.


Devils Advocate Brudda o da bomber
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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 12:15 AM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Yeah, I agree. But I also think that there wasn't a clear "winner". I think that the dings towards each other were about even. She over-acted and he's not a good speaker.


I agree on the dings, but she had her finger on the Cheeto button, and she was pushin it like it was a pez dispenser. She also managed not to present herself like a giggling teen watching a porn for the first time.

The winners here were the people who didn’t watch it 

Automatik Senior Member
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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 12:55 AM

Trump got dog walked.

Let’s go for round 2!

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 6:38 AM

I think she won going away.


She dispelled a lot of what’s been said about her and made concrete arguments.  All Trump did was regurgitate the same point he always makes, insult her, try to make jokes about Biden, and brag about himself.  He looked and sounded like a petulant child.

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 11:20 AM

I just finished watching a post debate show from last night. They took a poll asking who won the debate.

1.) it's a small poll

2.) keep in mind that these people are far left

3.) they despise Kamala 

It's also notable that while most of these types of people are going to vote for Jill Stein, some of them are going to be voting for Trump to "weaponize him against the Democrats"



CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 11:32 AM

Just putting a better pic of that poll here.

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 12:08 PM
posted by Devils Advocate

I agree on the dings, but she had her finger on the Cheeto button, and she was pushin it like it was a pez dispenser. She also managed not to present herself like a giggling teen watching a porn for the first time.

The winners here were the people who didn’t watch it 

To be fair she got away without answering a handful of questions and the mods never pressed her on it in the way they did with Trump. So that would make anybody feel less defensive and more confident. She only does the laughing stuff when she is on uneven ground and needs audience participation. 

And how many times did they fact check her? Anybody know?

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 12:33 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

To be fair she got away without answering a handful of questions and the mods never pressed her on it in the way they did with Trump. So that would make anybody feel less defensive and more confident. She only does the laughing stuff when she is on uneven ground and needs audience participation. 

And how many times did they fact check her? Anybody know?

I thought the moderators were not bad.  Both of them got questions they did not answer at all.  They called her out on he changing positions.  


I know no one ever seems to be happy with the moderators at these things.  But in all, I thought these two weren't bad.

geeblock Member
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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 12:44 PM
posted by iclfan2

There are plenty of articles stating that. But how can they possibly know that if cities don’t report crime based on citizenship? It’s just an educated guess at that point. And even if they do commit crimes at a lower rate, it is still an increase in the absolute number of crimes, which is still an issue since it is avoidable. 


If there is no evidence of their crimes how do you know they are committing crimes? 


iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 1:06 PM
posted by geeblock

If there is no evidence of their crimes how do you know they are committing crimes? 


Bc I live in reality and have Twitter? There is plenty of evidence of crimes, but if not reflected in reporting used to write about immigrant crime rates it is useless. 

There was just an article where a cop says he guesses 75% of his calls in NYC are for illegals. Quit being so obtuse. 

Lot of interviews with Springfield citizens coming out too, the picture isn’t as rosy as you and ptown tried painting it. But probably accurate they didn’t eat someone’s cat. 


CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 1:17 PM

Spreading some racism ;)

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 1:22 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

I thought the moderators were not bad.  Both of them got questions they did not answer at all.  They called her out on he changing positions.  


I know no one ever seems to be happy with the moderators at these things.  But in all, I thought these two weren't bad.

They fact checked only Trump, twice incorrectly, and let Kamala bluntly retell lies like the Charlottesville fine people on both sides and bloodbath, amongst others. Trying to play fact checker on a broadcast is stupid. Come out with the articles fact checking after the debate like every other time. Shocking for me to admit that CNN was way better. 

But I’m not pretending they were the reason Trump goes off on tangents instead of actually being able to make good points.


Automatik Senior Member
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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 1:27 PM
posted by iclfan2

Bc I live in reality and have Twitter? There is plenty of evidence of crimes, but if not reflected in reporting used to write about immigrant crime rates it is useless. 

There was just an article where a cop says he guesses 75% of his calls in NYC are for illegals. Quit being so obtuse. 

Lot of interviews with Springfield citizens coming out too, the picture isn’t as rosy as you and ptown tried painting it. But probably accurate they didn’t eat someone’s cat. 


Twitter is a cesspool of bullshit. 

How about those Kamala earpiece earrings? 

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 1:34 PM
posted by Automatik

Twitter is a cesspool of bullshit. 

How about those Kamala earpiece earrings? 

Posting articles of illegals committing crimes is pretty valid I’d say. Of course there are plenty of conspiracy theory’s too, which is why I didn’t post the Springfield shit earlier too bc it sounded too crazy. 


Automatik Senior Member
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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 1:39 PM

I take most X posts with a grain of salt. It's gone to shit, but there's a lot of truth to the Aurora madness. It's been going for a while....way longer than the media has been leading on. 

Also my gf is Venezuelan. Her fam is pissed about all of it. "Gives them a bad name." I feel bad for the constant bashing considering 98% of her family/friends are here legally.  

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 1:52 PM
posted by Automatik

Twitter is a cesspool of bullshit. 

How about those Kamala earpiece earrings? 

Wait, what? Is that what Twitter is on about? lol

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