Bengals trade Carson Palmer to the Raiders for a 1st rounder...

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Oct 19, 2011 10:42 PM
jordo212000;939256 wrote:Raiders made a ballsy move for sure. Definitely paid a premium. I wouldn't be as hard on them if they hadn't traded away picks previously, but the amount of picks they have is downright embarrassing. You have to build through the draft
You do realize they have 3 fairly high compensation picks coming right?
Oct 19, 2011 10:42pm
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Oct 19, 2011 10:46 PM
Skyhook79;939338 wrote:You do realize they have 3 fairly high compensation picks coming right?
The highest it can be is a 3rd rounder (essentially 4th rounder, since it is end of the round) right? Nnamdi I can see as a 3rd rounder. Gallery is like a 4th/5th and I wouldnt be surprised if Miller was 7th or nothing.
Oct 19, 2011 10:46pm
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Oct 19, 2011 10:56 PM
Skyhook79;939338 wrote:You do realize they have 3 fairly high compensation picks coming right?
How many are first rounders?
Oct 19, 2011 10:56pm
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Oct 20, 2011 4:45 AM
jordo212000;938373 wrote:I'd say if Palmer can get the offense down, he probably will play. They spent a ton on him, it would be stupid not to play him. It would be even dumber to let Kyle Boller play extended snaps for them. We know what he is and what his limitations are
Agreed, Boller's limitations revolve around his accuracy, or lack thereof, the guy can still throw the football. Palmer has looked like absolute crap the past couple of seasons throwing as many ducks as he has NFL-QB passes. If for some reason he magically turned back into an NFL QB while not practicing great for the Raiders.
Oct 20, 2011 4:45am
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Oct 20, 2011 7:20 AM
Manhattan Buckeye;939464 wrote:Agreed, Boller's limitations revolve around his accuracy, or lack thereof, the guy can still throw the football. Palmer has looked like absolute crap the past couple of seasons throwing as many ducks as he has NFL-QB passes. If for some reason he magically turned back into an NFL QB while not practicing great for the Raiders.

As bad as Palmer had been, he was still better than Boller
Oct 20, 2011 7:20am
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Oct 20, 2011 8:03 AM
jordo212000;939487 wrote:As bad as Palmer had been, he was still better than Boller
So are a lot of people. Raiders could have gotten Kyle Orton for much cheaper. You're logic is flawed.
Oct 20, 2011 8:03am
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Oct 20, 2011 8:15 AM
Still can't believe this gift feel in MB's lap. It will be interesting to see if it brings any extra spark to a team already on a roll. Who Dey!
Oct 20, 2011 8:15am
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Oct 20, 2011 8:49 AM
Commander of Awesome;939504 wrote:So are a lot of people. Raiders could have gotten Kyle Orton for much cheaper. You're logic is flawed.
(Palmer > Boller) Seems like sound logic to me. What is illogical to me is trading within your division to make the team you are trading with better the week before you play them.
Oct 20, 2011 8:49am
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Oct 20, 2011 9:34 AM
Jawbreaker;939530 wrote:(Palmer > Boller) Seems like sound logic to me. What is illogical to me is trading within your division to make the team you are trading with better the week before you play them.
well it was the trade deadline..
Oct 20, 2011 9:34am
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Oct 20, 2011 9:36 AM
Jawbreaker;939530 wrote:(Palmer > Boller) Seems like sound logic to me. What is illogical to me is trading within your division to make the team you are trading with better the week before you play them.
No his logic was that since Palmer is better than Boller it was a good trade. Try and keep up.

Also I guess you're referring to Kyle Orton. Considering that the Broncos have only won 1 game and tried to trade Orton before the season and then just benched him, it would be idiotic for them to let him rot on the bench when they could get something of value for a guy they don't want on their team. Broncos aren't in the playoff chase and Kyle Orton isn't exactly Rodgers.
Oct 20, 2011 9:36am
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Oct 20, 2011 10:05 AM
Manhattan Buckeye;939464 wrote:Agreed, Boller's limitations revolve around his accuracy, or lack thereof, the guy can still throw the football. Palmer has looked like absolute crap the past couple of seasons throwing as many ducks as he has NFL-QB passes. If for some reason he magically turned back into an NFL QB while not practicing great for the Raiders.

Palmer wasn't great by anymeans his last 2 seasons in Cincy but he was far from "absolute crap" he completed 62% of his passes, had a 4000yd season last year and had 46 TD passes with 33 Int's the last 2 years combined hardly "absolute crap" stats.
Oct 20, 2011 10:05am
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Oct 20, 2011 10:18 AM
Commander of Awesome;939554 wrote:No his logic was that since Palmer is better than Boller it was a good trade. Try and keep up.

Also I guess you're referring to Kyle Orton. Considering that the Broncos have only won 1 game and tried to trade Orton before the season and then just benched him, it would be idiotic for them to let him rot on the bench when they could get something of value for a guy they don't want on their team. Broncos aren't in the playoff chase and Kyle Orton isn't exactly Rodgers.


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jordo212000;939487 wrote:As bad as Palmer had been, he was still better than Boller
He is saying that Palmer > Orton which is a true statement.

You are also making the assumption the Raiders would want Orton and see value in him.

I am sorry if I can't keep up with your intellect.
Oct 20, 2011 10:18am
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Oct 20, 2011 11:02 AM
Jawbreaker;939574 wrote: He is saying that Palmer > Orton which is a true statement.
No that's an opinion. One which I disagree with. I would take Orton over Palmer.
Oct 20, 2011 11:02am
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Oct 20, 2011 5:59 PM
So is skyhook Carson Palmer's dad or something?
Oct 20, 2011 5:59pm
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Oct 23, 2011 6:41 PM
Carson Palmer already with a pick 6 lol.
Oct 23, 2011 6:41pm
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Oct 23, 2011 6:53 PM
Apparently the Raiders failed to watch Carson Palmer the last year or 2 in Cinci. Same ol Carson...throwing touchdowns to guys on the other team.
Oct 23, 2011 6:53pm
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Oct 23, 2011 7:39 PM
I'm rooting for the Raiders to lose every game. It would be hilarious if their first round pick this year ends up being a top 10 pick.
Oct 23, 2011 7:39pm
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Oct 23, 2011 8:05 PM
hey bgfalcons, what happened there? Come on here talking shit and the browns won and the raiders got blanked.
Oct 23, 2011 8:05pm
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Oct 23, 2011 8:34 PM
like_that;942814 wrote:Carson Palmer already with a pick 6 lol.
That INT looked eerily familiar to a lot of his picks from last season. The Raiders should have used that to their benefit in the negotiations. The Bengals shed Palmer, Ocho, and TO and replace them with rookies and young guys and improve dramatically. On that pick 6, his arm strength looked like it had vanished. He probably needs to knock the rust off a little bit though
Oct 23, 2011 8:34pm
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Oct 23, 2011 8:35 PM
jordo212000;939929 wrote:So is skyhook Carson Palmer's dad or something?
Perhaps. I admit I didn't watch all of Cincy's games the last couple of years, but I saw enough to know that Palmer is done as far as being a top NFL QB. I'm not sure he's even serviceable. Some of his INT's the last 2 years were mindblowing.
Oct 23, 2011 8:35pm
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Oct 23, 2011 8:36 PM
like_that;942814 wrote:Carson Palmer already with a pick 6 lol.
Picking up right where he left off. He has to be up there on the list of thrown pick 6's.
Oct 23, 2011 8:36pm
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Oct 24, 2011 1:06 AM
My Favorite Carson moment was when his leg got hit and he acted like he was hurt. Carson is a p***y. He's afraid to get hit and wont stand in the pocket. He has happy feet which is killing his footwork and his arm is weak b/c he needs surgury but is afraid to get it done.
Oct 24, 2011 1:06am
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Oct 24, 2011 1:54 AM
Palmer for MVP.
Oct 24, 2011 1:54am
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Oct 24, 2011 12:07 PM
jordo212000;939929 wrote:So is skyhook Carson Palmer's dad or something?
He's just an example of a troll who sucks at what he does. He tries trolling Cincy fans, so he used the "now that Carson's out of there, his career will be rejuvenated and he'll kick ass" card. And then looks like an idiot (like usual) when Carson throws three picks in a game he didn't even start. Good job, Oakland, you traded a couple good picks to get Kyle Boller's older twin!!!
Oct 24, 2011 12:07pm
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Oct 24, 2011 12:54 PM
DeyDurkie5;942909 wrote:hey bgfalcons, what happened there? Come on here talking shit and the browns won and the raiders got blanked.
That might mean something if it were not for the fact, that same raiders team kicked the Browns butt the week before.
Oct 24, 2011 12:54pm