Bengals trade Carson Palmer to the Raiders for a 1st rounder...

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Oct 18, 2011 8:39 PM
Carson has been training with TJ since they both didn't have a team. TJ said Carson's arm looks as good as he can remember. I think this will be a great trade for both teams. Glad the Bengals get the guaranteed part of it being great.
Oct 18, 2011 8:39pm
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Oct 18, 2011 8:41 PM
dave;938069 wrote:Carson has been training with TJ since they both didn't have a team. TJ said Carson's arm looks as good as he can remember. I think this will be a great trade for both teams. Glad the Bengals get the guaranteed part of it being great.
Getting those draft picks is definitely good, but how is it guaranteed great? What if those picks turn out to be a bust?
Oct 18, 2011 8:41pm
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Oct 18, 2011 9:06 PM
Farve also was going in to the same system he ran in GB for 16 yrs. Not the same situation in Oakland.
Oct 18, 2011 9:06pm
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Oct 18, 2011 9:24 PM
like_that;938072 wrote:Getting those draft picks is definitely good, but how is it guaranteed great? What if those picks turn out to be a bust?
It's $80mil minus whatever Dalton will make that they will have to spend to upgrade the team. No chance they don't improve with that money to spend and the picks.
Oct 18, 2011 9:24pm
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Oct 18, 2011 9:28 PM
Commander of Awesome;938092 wrote:Farve also was going in to the same system he ran in GB for 16 yrs. Not the same situation in Oakland.
Hue Jackson was with Carson at USC and in Cincy. They run a similar system.
Oct 18, 2011 9:28pm
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Oct 18, 2011 9:28 PM
Just read a story by John Clayton regarding Hue's coaching of Palmer. He was the offensive coordinator at USC for 2 of Palmer's years. He was also the receiver's coach when Palmer had his best year in Cincy. Seems to me Coach Jackson knows exactly what he's getting AND he can be successful.
Oct 18, 2011 9:28pm
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Oct 18, 2011 9:54 PM
Raiders are going for it. It may prove to be an atrocious trade. Bengals fans are ecstatic and they got a lot out of nothing....but he may be a lot for the Raiders, not betting on it, but we'll see.
Oct 18, 2011 9:54pm
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Oct 18, 2011 10:13 PM
Raiders pushing all-in, but they got fleeced. Very rare to see anybody get traded in the NFL, and it is even rarer to see somebody get dealt for a 1st round pick. This almost makes up for them passing up on that megatrade with the Redskins a few years back when the Redskins wanted 85
Oct 18, 2011 10:13pm
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Oct 18, 2011 10:52 PM
It'll be interesting to see when they debut Palmer. ESPN writers thought it could be as soon as this Sunday. Obviously the Raiders are thinking of the here and now so why wait?
Oct 18, 2011 10:52pm
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Oct 18, 2011 11:00 PM
Raiders were desperate - picture Terrell Pryor having to run an NFL offense with one week in camp.
Oct 18, 2011 11:00pm
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Oct 18, 2011 11:12 PM
Best trade in Bengal history? We will see if it passes the James Brooks for Pete Johnson trade. That one worked really well for Cincy.
Oct 18, 2011 11:12pm
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Oct 19, 2011 7:17 AM
friendfromlowry;938224 wrote:It'll be interesting to see when they debut Palmer. ESPN writers thought it could be as soon as this Sunday. Obviously the Raiders are thinking of the here and now so why wait?

I'd say if Palmer can get the offense down, he probably will play. They spent a ton on him, it would be stupid not to play him. It would be even dumber to let Kyle Boller play extended snaps for them. We know what he is and what his limitations are
Oct 19, 2011 7:17am
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Oct 19, 2011 9:27 AM
jordo212000;938176 wrote:Raiders pushing all-in, but they got fleeced. Very rare to see anybody get traded in the NFL, and it is even rarer to see somebody get dealt for a 1st round pick. This almost makes up for them passing up on that megatrade with the Redskins a few years back when the Redskins wanted 85

http://www.raiderfans.net/forum/oakland-raiders-forum-message-board/182113-video-hue-jackson-introduces-carson-palmer-pc.html


Hue Jackson and the Raiders don't feel they got fleeced also Palmer restructured his contract for the Raiders. Hue Jackson said he knows what they gave up and he knows what he is getting.
Oct 19, 2011 9:27am
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Oct 19, 2011 10:03 AM
Skyhook79;938445 wrote:

Hue Jackson and the Raiders don't feel they got fleeced also Palmer restructured his contract for the Raiders.
Wow really? A coach didn't bash his organization and say they got fleeced? I'm shocked.
Oct 19, 2011 10:03am
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Oct 19, 2011 12:20 PM
Skyhook79;938445 wrote:http://www.raiderfans.net/forum/oakland-raiders-forum-message-board/182113-video-hue-jackson-introduces-carson-palmer-pc.html


Hue Jackson and the Raiders don't feel they got fleeced also Palmer restructured his contract for the Raiders. Hue Jackson said he knows what they gave up and he knows what he is getting.
as I would expect him to say...
Oct 19, 2011 12:20pm
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Oct 19, 2011 1:05 PM
jordo212000;938594 wrote:as I would expect him to say...
So you don't think he really feels that way?
Oct 19, 2011 1:05pm
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Oct 19, 2011 1:23 PM
No.
Oct 19, 2011 1:23pm
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Oct 19, 2011 1:42 PM
Im sure Hue Jackson was the main guy that wanted Carson, so I'd say he's happy.
Oct 19, 2011 1:42pm
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Oct 19, 2011 1:51 PM
Skyhook79;938658 wrote:So you don't think he really feels that way?
No. But he's not worried about building for the future, he's worried about this season. Which is still a dumb trade. If he doesn't think the raiders got taken to the woodshed than he's a moron.
Oct 19, 2011 1:51pm
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Oct 19, 2011 1:52 PM
also according to NFL Today Podcast, the next best offer for Palmer was a 3rd pick. LMAO. Raiders outbid themselves by a mile. what a bunch of idiots.
Oct 19, 2011 1:52pm
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Oct 19, 2011 1:59 PM
Commander of Awesome;938701 wrote:also according to NFL Today Podcast, the next best offer for Palmer was a 3rd pick. LMAO. Raiders outbid themselves by a mile. what a bunch of idiots.
at least they are doing something to win games, unlike the Browns organization.
Oct 19, 2011 1:59pm
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Oct 19, 2011 2:00 PM
Pick6;938712 wrote:at least they are doing something to win games, unlike the Browns organization.
If thats what the raiders are doing to win, I'm glad the browns arent doing anything.
Oct 19, 2011 2:00pm
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Oct 19, 2011 2:11 PM
Pick6;938712 wrote:at least they are doing something to win games, unlike the Browns organization.
what does the browns have to do with this discussion? Please stay on topic or kindly fuck off
Oct 19, 2011 2:11pm
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Oct 19, 2011 2:23 PM
Commander of Awesome;938697 wrote:No. But he's not worried about building for the future, he's worried about this season. Which is still a dumb trade. If he doesn't think the raiders got taken to the woodshed than he's a moron.
Of course the head coach isnt worried about the future, especially a new head coach. He sees they are 4-2, in a winnable division, without a capable backup and a chance to make the playoffs. Head coaches want to win THIS YEAR and deal with next year, next year. Owners/GM's are ones that plan more for the future.
Oct 19, 2011 2:23pm
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Oct 19, 2011 5:03 PM
Commander of Awesome;938701 wrote:also according to NFL Today Podcast, the next best offer for Palmer was a 3rd pick. LMAO. Raiders outbid themselves by a mile. what a bunch of idiots.

Mike Brown would not have traded Palmer for 3rd or even a 2nd round pick. Nice fail post
Oct 19, 2011 5:03pm