Carlos Beltran to the Indians?

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Jul 22, 2011 4:02 PM
ohiobucks1;837965 wrote:hmm. musta seen old ones then. thought it was 2011...whoops

I think the Chiz Kid was around 47 at the start of training camp (ie preseason ranking). I take more stock into Law's evaluations than his actual rankings.
Jul 22, 2011 4:02pm
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Jul 22, 2011 4:03 PM
lhslep134;837982 wrote:I think the Chiz Kid was around 47 at the start of training camp (ie preseason ranking). I take more stock into Law's evaluations than his actual rankings.

Gotcha. Thanks
Jul 22, 2011 4:03pm
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Jul 22, 2011 4:04 PM
Yeah the rankings Olney used were from January. A lot has changed since then.

This is every team's top 10 prospects...

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/insider/columns/story?columnist=law_keith&page=LawTop10ByTeam

Freeman and Kimbrel have been up since Opening Day with Freeman starting at 1B and Kimbrel holding down the closer's role all year. Teheran (10-1, 1.70 at AAA) has made a couple starts, Minor has made a couple starts and the other 2 top 5 guys are at AA and are 20 years old.
Jul 22, 2011 4:04pm
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Jul 22, 2011 4:05 PM
Crimson streak;837980 wrote:The Indians are also linked to Aaron harang thoughts?

NO ******** WAY
Jul 22, 2011 4:05pm
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Jul 22, 2011 4:06 PM
And I guess the latest thing going around is Philadelphia has said they won't give up Brown or their top pitching prospect for Beltran. Atlanta is considering Minor for Beltran. I don't like it.
Jul 22, 2011 4:06pm
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Jul 22, 2011 4:13 PM
hoops23;837991 wrote:NO ******** WAY

That's what I'd think. Harang's an aging pitcher whose career is being extended by playing in a park where his fly balls stay in instead of going out.
Jul 22, 2011 4:13pm
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Jul 22, 2011 4:19 PM
I definitely agree. I want kuroda. He would fit in nicely with the tribe
Jul 22, 2011 4:19pm
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Jul 22, 2011 4:41 PM
Want nothing to do with Harang as well.
Jul 22, 2011 4:41pm
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Jul 25, 2011 12:44 PM
If ya want quality you have to trade quality. The Indians seem unwilling to do that. So forget about Beltran or any other 'name' player.
Jul 25, 2011 12:44pm
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Jul 26, 2011 7:34 PM
like_that;842042 wrote:Tribe looking to buy apparently...

Maybe a couple of sliders at White Castle...f'in cheapskates.
Jul 26, 2011 7:34pm
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Jul 26, 2011 7:54 PM
Peter Gammons reported that we offered a "good" player and offered to take on some salary but Beltran said no. Gammons implied it was one of the Big 4 (Chiz, Kipnis, White, Pomeranz). If that's the case I'm glad he turned it down.
Jul 26, 2011 7:54pm
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Jul 26, 2011 7:56 PM
grodt;842093 wrote:Peter Gammons reported that we offered a "good" player and offered to take on some salary but Beltran said no. Gammons implied it was one of the Big 4 (Chiz, Kipnis, White, Pomeranz). If that's the case I'm glad he turned it down.

I wouldve given up Chiz for Beltran. 3rd Baseman can be had, imo. But I dont like to trade players up the middle or pitching. RF, LF, 3B, and 1B I usually have no issue trading for a player who will help.
Jul 26, 2011 7:56pm
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Jul 26, 2011 7:57 PM
grodt;842093 wrote:Peter Gammons reported that we offered a "good" player and offered to take on some salary but Beltran said no. Gammons implied it was one of the Big 4 (Chiz, Kipnis, White, Pomeranz). If that's the case I'm glad he turned it down.

I agree. Only way I give up one of those 4 is for a proven player who has multiple years left on his contract, NOT a rent-a-bat.
Jul 26, 2011 7:57pm
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Jul 26, 2011 8:00 PM
grodt;842093 wrote:Peter Gammons reported that we offered a "good" player and offered to take on some salary but Beltran said no. Gammons implied it was one of the Big 4 (Chiz, Kipnis, White, Pomeranz). If that's the case I'm glad he turned it down.

I'd be fucking pissed if we did that deal. Esp White/Pomeranz. Never trade good pitching IMO.
Jul 26, 2011 8:00pm
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Jul 26, 2011 8:01 PM
I simply don't want Beltran....he is old and made a whole bunch of money off of one great postseason. I was never a fan of his so maybe I am biased.
Jul 26, 2011 8:01pm
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Jul 26, 2011 9:16 PM
Tribe offered to pay contract n a player. The mets declined
Jul 26, 2011 9:16pm
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Jul 26, 2011 9:31 PM
bases_loaded;842274 wrote:Tribe offered to pay contract n a player. The mets declined

The Mets didn't decline, Beltran did. Trade clause.
Jul 26, 2011 9:31pm
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Jul 26, 2011 9:51 PM
lhslep134;842311 wrote:The Mets didn't decline, Beltran did. Trade clause.
From mlbtraderumors.com
The Indians offered to pick up all of Beltran's remaining contract and give the Mets a good player in return according to MLB.com's Peter Gammons, but Cleveland was not a fit for the Scott Boras client. Heyman reports (on Twitter) that the deal was never presented to Beltran, so the Mets must know the which teams he'll accept a trade to
Jul 26, 2011 9:51pm
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Jul 26, 2011 10:02 PM
bases_loaded;842359 wrote:From mlbtraderumors.com
The Indians offered to pick up all of Beltran's remaining contract and give the Mets a good player in return according to MLB.com's Peter Gammons, but Cleveland was not a fit for the Scott Boras client. Heyman reports (on Twitter) that the deal was never presented to Beltran, so the Mets must know the which teams he'll accept a trade to

yeah, I think beltran has let it be known where he would go....there were reports last week that he wouldn't accept going to the tribe.
Jul 26, 2011 10:02pm
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Jul 27, 2011 10:23 AM
looks like Beltran to Texas. Ordonez is available. For cheap too.
Jul 27, 2011 10:23am
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Jul 27, 2011 10:26 AM
assumption;842895 wrote:looks like Beltran to Texas. Ordonez is available. For cheap too.
OOPs! Forgot; same division. No deal.
Jul 27, 2011 10:26am
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Jul 27, 2011 5:45 PM
The Giants win, the Giants win, the Giants win...... Beltran.
Jul 27, 2011 5:45pm
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Jul 27, 2011 7:43 PM
Thrilled that the Mets are getting Wheeler for Beltran, love getting the Giants #1 pitching prospect for a rental. Well done Sandy!
Jul 27, 2011 7:43pm