Eligibility

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truefan
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Jan 31, 2011 9:04pm
falcon81: If in fact you actually have proof of all the things you have posted, why in the world would you put them all on here and really not be a man and file! It sounds like these people that you have problems with are horrible people and all deserve to get the book thrown at them. But the question is, are you just telling wild tales that were made up in your imagination. I think it is very hard for people to believe all of this, at least for me it is. You talk of retaliating for the rape by a son of an employee? What? Where did that come from? I would suggest you watch the accusations you are making, pretty scary. Another thing you posted was the text your son sent to you. I know you are proud of your kids but didn't you give any thought of the fact that it was something private between a father and a son, not for all of us to read. We really get it, you and your family all love each other and everything you do is for your family. You have told us time and time again...yes, we get it!
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falcon81
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Jan 31, 2011 9:40pm
truefan;659816 wrote:falcon81: If in fact you actually have proof of all the things you have posted, why in the world would you put them all on here and really not be a man and file! It sounds like these people that you have problems with are horrible people and all deserve to get the book thrown at them. But the question is, are you just telling wild tales that were made up in your imagination. I think it is very hard for people to believe all of this, at least for me it is. You talk of retaliating for the rape by a son of an employee? What? Where did that come from? I would suggest you watch the accusations you are making, pretty scary. Another thing you posted was the text your son sent to you. I know you are proud of your kids but didn't you give any thought of the fact that it was something private between a father and a son, not for all of us to read. We really get it, you and your family all love each other and everything you do is for your family. You have told us time and time again...yes, we get it!
Yes they were reported . Yes they promised repeatedly to stop. Judges were talked to , the sheriff was involved, the Highway State Patrol was called but they did away with all internal investigations and do not take complaints on their officers, you have to report to the sheriffs department. With in 5 minutes of calling the highest HIghway patrol office for help the crazed Officer called our home like a bad movie taunting us and mocking us for calling his supervisor he was informed of our complaint immediately and retaliated. His brother was on the school board along with the mother of the head wrestling coach who is also on the board. Again if you do not see the NEPOTISM here you are blind. I shared my text of my son to share what a great kid he is. His character and his family's has been trashed yet he a child maintains his dignity and faith in the system. Negative posters still find fault even in that. What a joke. truefan... No you do not get it! Your not in the ball park! Where is your condemnation of the psychotic, dangerous, reckless behavior!!!! No you pile on the victims of these unprofessional tactics.

I would be damned fool to make up this insanity!!! I would be hung on a cross drug thru the Tuslaw parking lot if this was made up. I have ran a nationwide company for 22 years and am very well versed in slander. I would be a Idiot to make this crap up and I'am not the creative type, I'am a pragmatic that fixes things. I am by the book!! Straight up. Anyone that has dealt with me knows it. I'am blunt to the point and I don't care to win a popularity contest!!
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Brutus
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Feb 1, 2011 12:44am
This is deep.. just let them wrestle
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de oppresso liber
Posts: 32
Feb 1, 2011 5:45am
First Trigger, then Max Cady, now John Nash Jr. These posts kind of remind me of the SNL skits 'Scared straight'.
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truefan
Posts: 18
Feb 1, 2011 11:23am
falcon81
I was wondering about the statement you made earlier, you say you "do not want to live in Tuslaw after your 12 months are up in Apple Creek. " So one would assume from that statement that you must be renting and have a lease for one year. I could have sworn you said you purchased a home in Apple Creek. When trying to prove residency I would think "renting" would be frowned upon, for sure when you own this fabulous home in Tuslaw, have 7 kids, your wife and you, moved from the good life to a rental property in Wayne County? Wow, what you all have given up to have your twins wrestle some place other than Tuslaw. We know open enrollment would have not worked since they are participating in a varsity sport and would need to sit out a year...no sports for a year. So your home became your office headquarters back in October 2010 when you moved to Apple Creek or did this happen recently. I'm sorry but when I go back and read all of your postings sometimes you say different things about some of the same incidents. I'm sure I am not the only one that have wondered about all of this.
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stonewallj
Posts: 16
Feb 1, 2011 12:21pm
"I would like to keep this thread going as to the topic of"eligibility". My lawyers have informed me we are where we want to be now and to leave it where its at. Code....Shut the hell up Dean! LOL! As hard as that is for me..... Well it is what is best for the Twins now...I feel very confident we will be on the mat now soon. God bless everyone for your support....its been a crazy week. Now lets chatter about "eligibility" in general . What have we learned about the process?"

Take your attorneys advice and follow it, you're doing more harm than good at this point.
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falcon81
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Feb 1, 2011 1:09pm
truefan;660498 wrote:falcon81
I was wondering about the statement you made earlier, you say you "do not want to live in Tuslaw after your 12 months are up in Apple Creek. " So one would assume from that statement that you must be renting and have a lease for one year. I could have sworn you said you purchased a home in Apple Creek. When trying to prove residency I would think "renting" would be frowned upon, for sure when you own this fabulous home in Tuslaw, have 7 kids, your wife and you, moved from the good life to a rental property in Wayne County? Wow, what you all have given up to have your twins wrestle some place other than Tuslaw. We know open enrollment would have not worked since they are participating in a varsity sport and would need to sit out a year...no sports for a year. So your home became your office headquarters back in October 2010 when you moved to Apple Creek or did this happen recently. I'm sorry but when I go back and read all of your postings sometimes you say different things about some of the same incidents. I'm sure I am not the only one that have wondered about all of this.
Read slower maybe. My affidavit has always said rent and that box was checked. If you still believe this is about wrestling only.....what the hey??? Are you blind? A house does not make a home no matter how nice it is. Safety, happiness, good community, professionalism, love, and pride in your school make a true home..... NOT THE SIZE of a house. And wrong again my company moved in before My family was totally moved to Waynedale. Quit jumping to incorrect conclusions. Isn't it sad that you have zero "wonderings" about insanely unprofessional behavior by your professional and Tax paid officials! NO!!! LEts keep attacking a family who has never been accused or have ever misbehaved themselves and lets defend bullies, drunks, stalkers, menacers, physical abusers .
I have not and will not talk about the eligibility hearing again and have shared no new information about that case. I have only shared a hint of another reason that shows the seriousness of the Safety and welfare issues that led my family to the move that has lead to the hearing. That story only becomes relevant if we for some unforeseen reason we get a totally unexpected ruling. You see when you know that you know that you know that your children are suffering for no just cause no parent worth their salt will sit back and be "silent". Thats what got us into this mess, Not taking and DEMANDING that something be done immediately when people act foolishly and carelessly with the lives of children. Giving in to "city Hall" and "Nepotism" just to fit in? If this is fixed Friday and I believe it will be, my family is wiping our feet picking ourselves up and moving on. Most would not. We will not be seeking revenge or try to get even in the courts. The best revenge is living a happy and successful life, thats all we ever wanted but hate and envy does not use good judgement and had to retaliate and stop two great kids. I'am sure those hateful people that sent the packet are deeply hoping and praying now that the twins are ruled eligible friday. They got what they wanted and now regret it, hate and envy does not think things thru!
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bendem
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Feb 1, 2011 3:00pm
Ok, so with all the shenanigans happening at Tuslaw, how could you not want more than just the boys eligible. I agree you should want and get this, but, if the drinking and underage driving etc... all happened you should not only fight for the safety of your children but for others. Then Tuslaw wrestling team was not the only people put at risk with this. A drunk driver, or an untrained driver is a threat to all on the road and anyone who has knowledge of this should do the right thing as a citizen of the U.S.A.. Bullying in schools is a national epidemic which has proven the ability to lead to tragedy.

I believe your entire story, but, I don't understand how a person as civic minded as you could be satisfied with only getting your sons reinstated when such a danger exist to others.
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PP1
Posts: 19
Feb 1, 2011 3:22pm
de oppresso liber;658770 wrote:The fact that both Supers approved the move in Oct., the fact that the OHSAA signed off on the move in Oct., the fact that it is considered 'special', the fact that property was bought in Apple Creek, the fact that the Tuslaw property was 'named' a business..has NOTHING..not one damn thing to do with what the hearing is going to be about. All the OHSAA wants to know is if a signed, sworn by a public official (notary) document is truthful AND is it being adhered to..not sometimes, not part time..but ALL the time...from Oct. 2010 to Jan. 2011. All the rest of this is just BS.

Personally, I would have found the best polygraph in the state and answered the ONLY questions anyone wants to know..and post the results in a public place. "Do you and your entire family reside in your Apple Creek home exclusively since October 2010? Do you and your entire family eat, sleep, dwell in this Apple Creek home, and do you swear that you only use the Tuslaw 'residence' for business...not sleeping there, not eating family meals there, and all personal property relating to living as a normal family has been transferred to the Apple Creek home.?" Furthermore, Waynedale school officials have, as set forth by the bylaws, monitored and visited the Apple Creek home to make sure that they are doing what they said they would do according to the bylaws of this move."

That is the only questions the OHSAA are going to ask...and it is those answers that will determine eligibility or not. That is what makes it the truth or a lie. That is what makes it cheating or fair play. I would do EVERYTHING to clear my name..and a polygraph would clear 99.9% of all doubt. Those are answers that you don't need lawyers for. They don't know the answers. All the rest is good reading, and factual or not..don't mean jack sh*t as far as the eligibility question....right 'Trigger'?

Good questions, if you go back to his many post on yappi, he actually makes post on the exact mileage that his boys have to drive from the Tuslaw place to Wayndale schools. Now if they were actually sleeping in that home why would he make such posts. ALL BS
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PP1
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Feb 1, 2011 3:28pm
falcon81;659028 wrote:Really is that all you can see? A son sends his Dad a text like that and you come up with a text breaking rule. Lets add two more years to his sentence for a text message. Some of you haters are so short sighted and full of spite you are blind to common human decency .

YOU ARE THE ONE BLIND TO COMMON SENSE.
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de oppresso liber
Posts: 32
Feb 1, 2011 3:56pm
bendem;660784 wrote: I believe your entire story, but, I don't understand .
I have a good friend that sells real estate in Florida. Real high ground in the Everglades with a marsh view that is just dying to meet and talk to you if you're interested.
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PP1
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Feb 1, 2011 4:16pm
DID YOU MEAN WOW THE LIES KEEP GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER.
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truefan
Posts: 18
Feb 1, 2011 5:43pm
All falcon81 wants is for his twins to be made eligible again. He wants everyone to do everything they can to help him in any way, shape or form. Bendum states that he also should care about other children that could be harms way. Falcon81 says he will drop everything else that has happened if and when his kids are able to wrestle, found eligible. He makes us think he is the savior for the world, has done everything right, wouldn't make up stories, wouldn't ever go against the law....but his kids are found eligible all else is forgotten. Why did he even tell all those stories if he isn't going to do anything about them. He doesn't care about anyone else's kids, only his own. I think that is very plain to see at this point. He has tried to put Tuslaw in a very bad light, I guess pay them back for whatever he says they have done to his family. I have a feeling that Tuslaw is glad he is gone, hopefully never to come back and start to cause problems like he has done for years.
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falcon81
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Feb 1, 2011 6:06pm
bendem;660784 wrote:Ok, so with all the shenanigans happening at Tuslaw, how could you not want more than just the boys eligible. I agree you should want and get this, but, if the drinking and underage driving etc... all happened you should not only fight for the safety of your children but for others. Then Tuslaw wrestling team was not the only people put at risk with this. A drunk driver, or an untrained driver is a threat to all on the road and anyone who has knowledge of this should do the right thing as a citizen of the U.S.A.. Bullying in schools is a national epidemic which has proven the ability to lead to tragedy.

I believe your entire story, but, I don't understand how a person as civic minded as you could be satisfied with only getting your sons reinstated when such a danger exist to others.
I have spent the last several years in this mess . My stories have been shared with the Super, principle, Highway Patrol, Stark county Sheriffs department, a Judge, and the AD. The stories have been documented and in all most all cases verified and admitted. This is why I am not being sued and would love the opportunity to be sued for that because then all those concerned would have to supply full testimony and evidence. Self incriminating for them .
The real question is why not the administration, the AD or the coach handle it, i am just a parent with no power or authority! They investigated and promised to fire all those involved for 7 months. They didn't....Why??? Easy ..Major NEPOTISM!! Or The Good OLE BOY network. Instead the men of highest regard, Olympic coaches, Men Like Bobby Douglas, Doc Bennette(Doc is coaching Team Usa in India today)(fired from Tuslaw for knowing us), ,,Organizations like Team Nelson....All fired , all Banned from the big time Tuslaw wresting room. Big fish in a little pond. A huge tree stealing all the sun light. Napoleon syndrome. Keep the local drunks and school buddies get rid of the ones who took every one to state the year before and "blew The Whistle" on The Local Yahoos.

Its funny we are either being criticized for fighting this to much and still being criticized by others that we need to fight more including fighting for others. Tough crowd!

I believe by winning our fight and sooner or later we will , We are preventing and saving others from potential Safety and Welfare issues in the future. People are corrupt, more bad stuff is going on in your schools than you naively imagine. We have fought our fight, if we win we are moving on....sorry. Good men at the OHSAA will fix this, God willing. I have 7 kids, a company to run, a coaching , job, it will be time to move on . This has cost my family tens of thousands of dollars having heavily relied on the "experts" on my every move. This has damaged my reputation ...terms like "Fraud" used before anyone checks into things first. No we will move on.....Again...
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Clever Guy
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Feb 1, 2011 6:15pm
Are we now backtracking?? His stories are true. His stories are untrue. Now, if they are true he's putting other kids in danger?? If they're true then he did quite a great deal to fight against a "nepotistic" school system and found himself so tired of the fight, and lack of result that they moved. Unless you revert back to your original story that they're UNtrue, in which case they're was never any danger and leaving school would not harm others. Which is it? I just don't think you can have it both ways folks...
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falcon81
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Feb 1, 2011 6:16pm
truefan;660976 wrote:All falcon81 wants is for his twins to be made eligible again. He wants everyone to do everything they can to help him in any way, shape or form. Bendum states that he also should care about other children that could be harms way. Falcon81 says he will drop everything else that has happened if and when his kids are able to wrestle, found eligible. He makes us think he is the savior for the world, has done everything right, wouldn't make up stories, wouldn't ever go against the law....but his kids are found eligible all else is forgotten. Why did he even tell all those stories if he isn't going to do anything about them. He doesn't care about anyone else's kids, only his own. I think that is very plain to see at this point. He has tried to put Tuslaw in a very bad light, I guess pay them back for whatever he says they have done to his family. I have a feeling that Tuslaw is glad he is gone, hopefully never to come back and start to cause problems like he has done for years.
You want me to sue Tuslaw and those involved if this is fixed? Then I will be a evil rich guy taking money from the hard working locals. You bet I want two innocent kids to be eligible! If my story is a lie I will surely be sued but my story is true and can be totally collaborated and verified. Would some lie...Yes. But covering up Watergate got more people in trouble than Watergate it self....remember those words. I really don't care what "Tuslaw" thinks at this point . I care about my family and Waynedale and that the truth has came out and changes I am sure are on the way. Lets Pray!
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hizzmuther
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Feb 1, 2011 7:06pm
His kids are his responsibility. He met his responsibilities to everyone else's kids when he initially said something to officials with the team. If other parents were not aware of what happened then, then I am sure they are now. They can choose how they follow up with their kids safety in mind. He removed his kids from what he found to be an inappropriate environment. I don't necessarily agree with all of the things he considers unsafe, but I believe that he had the right to make that difficult decision for his family.
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PP1
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Feb 1, 2011 9:13pm
Falcon81----was it the 9-20-10 meeting that you saved Tuslaw from the annexation?
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falcon81
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Feb 1, 2011 9:53pm
Close with my blog of the day with something positive. Thanks to the Tuslaw people that have came to our support who are willing to come forward and back up what i have shared. I'am sorry that those people fear for retribution on their kids and I hate to say they have reason too. Most are move ins like us that are not part of the alumni network. Thanks to the coaches all across the state that have sent letters of support and made phone calls. Thanks to the OHSAA for moving up the hearing. Thanks for the unwavering support of the Waynedale community, coaching staff, Administration and Die hard fans. Thanks for the new facebook "Save the Terror Twins" Facebook page. Thanks for the best Law Firm ever. Thanks to Ohiochatter for Freedom of chatter both ways! our case is done , the hearing on Friday. Everyone involved is feeling pretty good. Yes my twins are frustrated for what they have missed but may have learned a far bigger lesson about life and people , good and bad and holding up under pressure. Life is not always fair but you still control the final outcome by how you fight and if you fight with integrity and truth. This may have done more to give them purpose and resolve than anything else. Time will tell. God bless!
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falcon81
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Feb 1, 2011 10:09pm
"De Oppresso Liber " "to free the oppressed" . You know I have no doubt you are not in the Army special forces that bears that saying as their logo! They are fellow veterans I would be proud to serve with and have. They are brave . They are not sarcastic. They are not cheap shot artist! They are not cowards and would not hesitate to identify themselves in attacking someone if they believed in what they fought for. ID yourself or shut up but don't steal a great slogan from brave men who live to "Free the oppressed". Thank you for a little respect in advance.
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de oppresso liber
Posts: 32
Feb 2, 2011 5:59am
falcon81;661379 wrote:"De Oppresso Liber " "to free the oppressed" . You know I have no doubt you are not in the Army special forces that bears that saying as their logo! They are fellow veterans I would be proud to serve with and have. They are brave . They are not sarcastic. They are not cheap shot artist! They are not cowards and would not hesitate to identify themselves in attacking someone if they believed in what they fought for. ID yourself or shut up but don't steal a great slogan from brave men who live to "Free the oppressed". Thank you for a little respect in advance.

and you would be wrong AGAIN. Nice try, Trigger. Respect, like freedom..is earned not given freely. I would say you owe me some respect and thanks ..but I did what i did despite of people like you..not for them. What really, really rubs most of us veterans the wrong way..is other vets 'demanding' respect just because our Gov't allowed them to wear their uniform.I served with some great men, but I also served with some loud mouthed punks that never earned my respect regardless of what uniform they wore.
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WiseOwl
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Feb 2, 2011 8:12am
Great post de oppresso liber and thank you for your service!
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herbie
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Feb 2, 2011 8:16am
de oppresso liber......Amen!!
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falcon81
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Feb 2, 2011 8:57am
Men who allow the abuse of children and criticize how a form is filled out. Right . What is your name then proud veteran , if you can not ask that simple question you are no brave man or vet! You have demanded answers from my family. I demand a simple question from you .Your name? I didn't think so tough guy....I didn't think so.
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falcon81
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Feb 2, 2011 9:30am
Herbie , Wiseowl,and Nacho libber, The Three Amigo's !!! You all joined the "Chatter" to spew hate. You all 3 resort to mocking and ,name calling and sarcasm when you don't have a valid argument! Your hate and envy is not his well hidden nor is your agenda when it comes to the good posters on here trying to have a debate on"eligibility "and what led my family to the topic.! You have not used a single shred of evidence or logic to dispute my claims because you can not because my claims are true. I on the other hand can not pick apart your character! You stand there with three silly white hoods pulled over your heads with the Grand Canyon of the internet standing between you and the people you slander and throw rocks at. Real classic tough guys. No accountability, no repercussions, No facts, Just pure lynch mob approach with no one ever knowing who is behind the white hood. While attacking a good family , with no record , Who works their butt off for the sport of wresting not only for themselves but have opened their doors for 100's of kids across the country Just for the love of the sports. I.am sure you are the same people who illegally go threw our mail and then throw it all over the road, paint 10 foot D birds with the twins name on it, Turfed 20 acres of yard(6 grand of damage), Shot out 28 windows out of our barns with a bb guns, Stalked , peeped, phone harassed, Keyed two expensive cars, and of course slander us daily on the internet! We are still standing with our chin up. We will have our day. Karma will visit you soon.....Whoever you are?