Wiseowl and Del opresso liber don't make your desperation to see the twins stopped from wrestling look so obvious. It would be nice if you were as desperate to have the drunks investigated or maybe the physical threats. The Super at Waynedale is on board and more supportive than ever after seeing all the facts. The Waynedale AD did do 4 bed checks and has affidavits to show we were there 4 out of 4 times. The Tuslaw Super made calls to the sherriffs office over a period of 2 years on several safety issues that pale the ones I have shared. That story will make everyone blush when told. You still think this is about mincing minute details of how much time percentage wise was spent here or there.Not Wether my every detail in protecting my wife and kids was some how not up to your perfect standards on what you do not even know the details on. Typical mob reaction , your a lynch posters with hood over your head. You want me to take a poly, with your hood still on? LOL ! Here is a question for wiseowl, Its a tough one....WHATS YOU NAME?? I thought so no answer. But you want every detail on my kids. that says it all .

The hearing was moved up 2 weeks. Not in person like standard meetings. Teleconference. They say only 20 to 30 minutes and then they will render a decision maybe immediately, I fully believe the twins will be on the mats next week. The board did not make this call to begin with, my lawyers have dealt with the Board before and feel very confident on the outcome. They are real people who do care and will be seeing the truth for the first time .We are confident they will fix this for the benefit of everyone. In a negative outcome I believe the in person hearing will still occur on the 17th with my twins able to face the board face to face. My family stands tall and proud to answer every question honestly and without hesitation.

Wiseowl and Del opresso liber don't make your desperation to see the twins stopped from wrestling look so obvious. It would be nice if you were as desperate to have the drunks investigated or maybe the physical threats. The Super at Waynedale is on board and more supportive than ever after seeing all the facts. The Waynedale AD did do 4 bed checks and has affidavits to show we were there 4 out of 4 times. The Tuslaw Super made calls to the sherriffs office over a period of 2 years on several safety issues that pale the ones I have shared. That story will make everyone blush when told. You still think this is about mincing minute details of how much time percentage wise was spent here or there.Not Wether my every detail in protecting my wife and kids was some how not up to your perfect standards on what you do not even know the details on. Typical mob reaction , your a lynch posters with hood over your head. You want me to take a poly, with your hood still on? LOL ! Here is a question for wiseowl, Its a tough one....WHATS YOU NAME?? I thought so no answer. But you want every detail on my kids. that says it all .

The hearing was moved up 2 weeks. Not in person like standard meetings. Teleconference. They say only 20 to 30 minutes and then they will render a decision maybe immediately, I fully believe the twins will be on the mats next week. The board did not make this call to begin with, my lawyers have dealt with the Board before and feel very confident on the outcome. They are real people who do care and will be seeing the truth for the first time .We are confident they will fix this for the benefit of everyone. In a negative outcome I believe the in person hearing will still occur on the 17th with my twins able to face the board face to face. My family stands tall and proud to answer every question honestly and without hesitation.

Cthelites;658730 wrote:Your loss devil!
VERY entertaining read.
Kind of reminds me of some of the Myers threads on yippi in the past.
You should take some time and read this.

Agreed. I'm honestly thinking "separated at birth."

I can't tear myself away from this thread...it's like a car wreck or William Hung auditioning for American Idol.

When you end up seeing some of the stalkers behind this who supplied the "Dirt" One out of state thug. . No drivers license for 8 years due to being wanted in two states(Texas and new Mexico) for never paying his child support and over 12 liens out on him and caught posting lies on several internet forums posing as a customer as a women. This person sits in church with the Tuslaw Jr high Coach that the original issues took place with who's own son , the senior captain and 2 time district qualifier for Tuslaw Quit the team 1 week after the twins moved to Waynedale. A great kid and I am proud of him for his decision to stand up for what is right. The Dad is still a coach....I don't know why.... chasing off the twins and his own son would be enough you would think to maybe step down finally.

Like one poster had suggested earlier there was more than one shooter . Who was on the grassy knoll. A disgruntled husband of a fired wife? A Out of control coach? A web site admin, a lawyer with a axe to grind? Who knows for sure who all was involved it will all come out, the sad thing is they attacked me where they knew it would hurt most....They attacked my kids.....That was a mistake ....a big mistake.

Another way over looked topic on eligibility is who should be allowed to follow people around. If the OHSAA had a rule that only they had the power to investigate and they did not except info or packets from outside witch hunters under any circumstance , I believe my family would not have gone thru the hell and stalkings, and break in's the we experienced. Reinstate the Supers right to protect a child( sounds solid) eliminate encouraging stalkers and witch hunts, only info gathered professionally and safely by the Ad and school official's only(sounds solid). Its wresting not international espionage. Stop the terrorism. Its just sports. 4 short years of a kids life , liberty and pursuit of happiness. Who can argue that?

A tearful and proud father would like to share a text I just received from Zack the 119 pound ineligible wrestler. His exact text " I know things are rough and today is stressful but I want you to know that everything you do for for us will make us good peopleand good parents when we are older. IK right now everything is crazy and hard but it will all pay off in the long run no matter what the outcome is. I love you and am so grateful for everything you do. Iam lucky to have parents that care about goals and never give up when we face adversity." sent at 9:35 from school today. Iam so proud of these twins, champions on and off the mat.

Waynedale allows texting during school hours? Wow...that is unusual.

Really not uncommon if a kid texts from their locker between classes. I have no problem my son having his phone with him all day, as long as the sound is off, not being disruptive to him and other students, and no bathroom photos, but that is just my opinion.

elissari;658989 wrote:Waynedale allows texting during school hours? Wow...that is unusual.

Really is that all you can see? A son sends his Dad a text like that and you come up with a text breaking rule. Lets add two more years to his sentence for a text message. Some of you haters are so short sighted and full of spite you are blind to common human decency .

Most schools do not allow cell phone usage During school hours. Not sure how a comment expressing surprise that a school would permit it is hating on someone?

Most schools do not approve it but it happens in all schools.

I Wear Pants;659139 wrote:Most schools do not approve it but it happens in all schools.

Off topic, but it reminds me of a funny story. Where my son attends school they have a zero tolerance policy on even carrying a cell phone during school hours. However a couple of years ago, they were being released early due to heavy snow in the afternoon. At the end of the announcement from the principal he told students to use their cell phones to alert their parents of the early release, thus minimizing the number of students needing to use the office phones.

Most of the posters on here could only dream of there kid sending them a post like that. But I read into it. It is a family who loves one another and cares for one another. The sad part is it also shows the kid is worried about his family. This is alot of stress that is really not needed on a kid. To all the adults on here. I only hope that some IDIOT doesnt cause this kind of stress to your children one day. Why don't some of you sweep of your porch, before you try and sweep off someone elses. I think the old saying should stand on here. If you can't say something in support of the boys then don't say anything at all. These kids don't deserve what some of you Adults are posting.. you all need to grow up.

On the use of cell phones during school.. maybe he was in study hall.. I for one have communications with my kids Dailey. That is why they have the phones. That way I know what's going on.. I didn't get them phone for them to commuicate with there friends. Allthough iam not stupid and know they do. Its for our family to be able to communicate. SOME PEOPLE MUST NOT HAVE MUCH OF A FAMILY..

I keep reading your post(s) with hope that all of the conspricy, out of state stalkers and thug like behavior of those you dont care for will somehow result in the location of the late Jimmy Hoffa

Cthelites;658730 wrote:Your loss devil!
VERY entertaining read.
Kind of reminds me of some of the Myers threads on yippi in the past.You should take some time and read this.

Doesn't it though???

Twisted Sister, he called me on my birthday during a 3000 mile bike ride through the desert, and now a DeNiro/Cape Fear reference...you could not make this stuff up.

Ok, I have spent the better part of a week reading through this entire thread, having the wife yell at me for not paying any attention to her... I will admit it is very very interesting....

Falcon81, I hope justice is served, your entire family desreves to live in peace and without fear of going outside and being stalked or or being followed wth camera's.

I wish so bad that we had more die-hard wrestling programs down here in central ohio like there is in the northern part of the state. I would love for my son to be able to attend some of the training sessions that go on at your facility, I'm sure it's top notch. I think alot of the negative posters on here have some sort of vendetta that I know nothing about, nor want to for that matter. I would say just the fact that your boys are stud wrestlers, (to do what they did as freshmen, I know they are studs) probably makes some of the locals up there fume with envy.

One of my boys is in the 135 weight class with your son, if I'm at the state tourney, I will make a point to look you up.

Good luck, go in peace and may everything work out for your family.

Don't know what is dramatic about a cross country Bike ride. I've been to 15 straight Sturgis bike weeks, And was in the middle of a cross country loner bike trip from Massillion to LA and back. Been a biker since I was 13 did not have a car till I was 20.This summer me a friend are doing a 8000 mile Alaska ride after Fargo, I doubt we will see any Internet twit tough guys along the way. Including the De Niro phyco that you will learn more about if we have to take this case to the next level. Yes its a crazy story. I didn't ask for it. My sons did not deserve it. It is real, crazy or not. Complain to the people in the story, the same ones who regurgitated it when they sent the "packet"! We had moved on and were having a great season, we have no choice but to fight back and truth is our best friend. No.9 Don't bear false witness against your neighbor, No. 10. Thou shall not envy, the last of the Big 10 commandments.

LET THEM WRESTLE.

The untold story includes, Highway state patrol, Stark county sheriffs department(the good guys), Malice, menacing, physical force, intimidation with a weapon, threats of death and physical harm by a legally armed officer( my only two tickets in 5 years from one head quarters), retaliation for rape by a son of an employee, no traveling on Ohio Highways in certain jurisdictions, Psychotic adults in Stare downs with children, being armed at all times, No Kids allowed to drive alone. Dangerous enough for you? No we do not want to live there(Tuslaw) after our 12 months are up in AppleCreek . Its been a living nightmare. Yes I want the nightmare to end. Its not funny. Its not nit picking! Schools should not wait for someone to get killed. For goodness sake are you not reading the papers ! Everyday some one is getting killed by some psychotic bully or out of control obsessed madman. Wake up those of you that can stop this stuff, quit worrying about your own butt think about the kids. We just wanted to move on. Hopefully its all over Friday. We will move on at Waynedale...Again! Getting even is not worth it. Yes Robert De Nero looks like a pussy cat.

Hopefully this story never gets told. It is very painful for everyone involved. It is heart breaking to all dads involved, Moms, the Super, and the family members. There are no winners or losers, there is no high fiving , just flat out heart break, fear, terror, worry, and deep sadness for all . prayers out to everyone in this mess. Grown ups ....Grow up and fix this. No one should ever make some thing like this up and nothing like this should be swept under the rug. Good solid reasoning and judgement. Please think about the KIDS.......Please.

Wow! It just keeps getting better and better.
Sorry about being entertained with all this Falcon, but you must admit if you were on our end you would be too.
I truly do feel for you and your famly and especially the twins.
No wonder there are 10,000 hits lol!

Cthelites;659702 wrote:Wow! It just keeps getting better and better.
Sorry about being entertained with all this Falcon, but you must admit if you were on our end you would be too.
I truly do feel for you and your famly and especially the twins.
No wonder there are 10,000 hits lol!

I know it may look entertaining to some but those in the know , know it has been a 4 to 6 years of hell. It is not even a little funny for us. You do not know what it is like to stay up late at night waiting to see if your kids got home safely and avoided the police successfully. To teach them to call 911 if they are being pulled over by the Highway patrol and to not pull over untill they find a busy Gas station. I shed a tear writing this post. My kids deserve better from the school and authorities that should be there to make them feel secure. It is sad the Ad, Policeman, and coaches all went to school together. Nepotism is a real problem in this school district. I will say they look after their own like no other. Would you let your sons alone with these guys? Even with me there they had it rough but they kept their eye on the ball and got it done on the mat anyway and were supported immensely by the other local HS coaches. Waynedale knows the story and has been a great community and have never blinked an eye on supporting me and the twins. Friday will be a new day I believe and good men at the OHSAA will in the end be our greatest ally and do the right thing. Put the kids first.

Sounds to me that you are now afraid the board is reading the thread and you are putting your case on here. Just wait and see what happens Friday, we all will hear about it.

Troop67;659744 wrote:Sounds to me that you are now afraid the board is reading the thread and you are putting your case on here. Just wait and see what happens Friday, we all will hear about it.

Yes you will on friday. The people that started this witch hunt will be the happiest on here to see it over ruled now. The more people know the better. I find the truth to be very refreshing. Light is not a friend to darkness. This 800 pound Gorilla was poked and forced to protect its own . This Gorilla isn't running any more. This will not end till there is Justice but it will end the second Justice is restored...Vengeance is wasted on the defeated. We will move on again if allowed and not followed....Again. Don't poke ,gorillas, Bikers, Veterans or Wrestlers they fight back.

I hope people with common sense can see this move was not over athletic reasons , the twins just happen to be very good wrestlers. Wrestling was the least of our problems. Now someone else has made it about wrestling and is saying wresting comes before academics, safety and welfare issues, and family security.....Where is the reasoning in this?? Madness, pure madness.

I fear no board nor should any good citizen! I did not serve my country to come home and fear my school or any Association. I feel confidence their are good men who have good judgement at the OHSAA. They have all the facts now and they will straighten this out , thats why they have hearings! Those that have kids understand my passion and they will understand why a parent will fight to the end for his child when they have done no wrong or are in danger. Any parent that wouldn't should not have had kids. I have 7 kids and love them all a wife of 28 years and this has strengthened us not broke us.