hoops23;626237 wrote:Dude, get the fuck out of here with the "You must not watch football" comment.. Obviously your dumbass doesn't watch shit. When you are PUSHED BACK for a few yards, FORWARD PROGRESS IS STOPPED.

The ref didn't blow the whistle. He should have. Shit happens. OSU won. Get over it.

karen lotz;626252 wrote:It happens quite often, usually when a player is fighting for extra yardage to get a first down.

So if someone is running a crossing route, catches the pass, gets blasted by a linebacker and is forced backwards a few yards, but doesn't fall down, his forward progress is stopped? If you honestly believe that, you should stop discussing football.

Cleveland Buck;626266 wrote:Even when he finally broke away from the first guy in the end zone it's not like he starting moving forward. He was immediately driven further back by 2 more guys. Therefore, his forward progress was stopped at the 2 yard line. Just because the inbred southern boy official didn't blow his whistle doesn't change that fact.

ts1227;626267 wrote:Everything he said was correct (though the last sentence did not help much), stop being a dumbass and discrediting it because he happens to like ND.

hoops23;626274 wrote:Wow. You're really this stupid.

If the WR coming off the route is hit and grabbed by the LB, and pushed back, YES forward progress is stopped. You see it ALL the time when an offensive player is pushed back. The refs bow the whistle.

If the WR coming off a slant or whatever is just blasted, but the LB or whomever doesn't actually grab the offensive player and drive them back, then no, forward progress is not stopped as the offensive player is still able to move forward after initial contact.

It's really not that hard to grasp.

karen lotz;626277 wrote:Wrong. This happens a lot. A pass is caught right at the first down line, player is pushed back but not wrapped up. Ball carrier then gives up a little ground in order to get around the corner and then he is tackled a couple yards behind the initial point of catch. He doesn't get forward progress. The only thing you can argue is the whistle wasn't blown at the right time.

karen lotz;626281 wrote:No you don't see it blown dead all the time. You are wrong. Watch more football.

karen lotz;626277 wrote:Wrong. This happens a lot. A pass is caught right at the first down line, player is pushed back but not wrapped up. Ball carrier then gives up a little ground in order to get around the corner and then he is tackled a couple yards behind the initial point of catch. He doesn't get forward progress. The only thing you can argue is the whistle wasn't blown at the right time.

hoops23;626288 wrote:Blown calls happen all the time, you need to check the rule book and watch more football.

I know it's been hard to watch for you in recent years, but rules are rules.

Cleveland Buck;626296 wrote:If the guy moves forward at any point, even if he doesn't gain back the yardage he lost, he was still progressing forward again. When guys are wrapped up and driven back by multiple guys and never start moving forward again, they mark the ball where forward progress stopped.

hoops23;626284 wrote:You should have stopped there. Because Boom was wrapped up, and pushed back for 5 yards. Forward progress ='s stopped.

Just because the defender FINALLY fell off, shouldn't mean Arkansas gets the benefit of the doubt.

Again, if I'm a coach now, I'm telling my defenders to push the offensive player in the endzone and to just fall off and allow the rest of the team to finish it off for a safety now.

hoops23;626300 wrote:Just stop. They obviously don't understand.

We've all seen 100's of plays were the running back was stuffed and pushed back and the whistle was blown as soon as the pile moved backwards.

charliehustle14;626329 wrote:Boom Herron is going to go down as one of the most hated, productive players to play at OSU. lol

hoops23;626196 wrote:It was a terrible call IMO.

So now, you're telling me a defender can push the offensive player back (forward progress should have been stopped there, right?) and just falls off, letting a teammate get the tackle in the endzone, it's a safety now?

dat dude;626320 wrote:Terrible call. Whistle should have been blown after he was driven backwards 5 yards. No excuse.

Tobias Fünke;626383 wrote:Plenty of excuses. HE BROKE THE TACKLE.

OrrvilleQB;626385 wrote:This was a crappy call, and just because he "got away" from the initial defender (although it was the defender who fell down) this still should of been a loss of 1 and 2&11 at the 1 yard line......no way this is a safety.

The refs were pretty bad all night...even though the Bucks didn't have many penalties. Too many players taunting the buckeyes and never called, The entire D-line was held the entire night and barely called....and then of course the safety call.

You could tell the refs were from the south (ACC) and trying to help out their SEC buddies. Luckily we came out with the win.

OrrvilleQB;626385 wrote:This was a crappy call, and just because he "got away" from the initial defender (although it was the defender who fell down) this still should of been a loss of 1 and 2&11 at the 1 yard line......no way this is a safety.

The refs were pretty bad all night...even though the Bucks didn't have many penalties. Too many players taunting the buckeyes and never called, The entire D-line was held the entire night and barely called....and then of course the safety call.

You could tell the refs were from the south (ACC) and trying to help out their SEC buddies. Luckily we came out with the win.

Big Gain;626388 wrote:SO, according to the official making this call. If a tackler stops a running back at the 2 yardline, then pushes the back into the endzone, he should release that back for an instant and then retackle him and it will always be a safety? The dumbest call I have seen in my life.