Cleveland Browns 2023 Season Thread

BR1986FB

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Fri, Aug 18, 2023 1:49 PM
posted by iclfan2

Stefanski said today that it wasn’t York who posted it. That said, I have 0 confidence in him as kicker. 

There are a lot of quality veteran kickers out there like Mason Crosby and there's a good chance Nick Folk is released by the Patriots. Think Robbie Gould is still out there too. Problem is, just like with Anthony Schwartz, Andrew Berry seems to be WAY too loyal to his crappy draft picks.

QuakerOats

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Fri, Aug 18, 2023 4:12 PM

Perhaps let the backup QB be the holder for a while, at least to test the psychological factor.

BR1986FB

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Mon, Aug 21, 2023 7:56 PM

Wonder if there's someone out there the Browns covet? Over the last few days Bitonio & Garrett have both restructured their contracts and the Browns are sitting on almost $34 million in cap space.

jmog

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Wed, Aug 23, 2023 8:43 AM
posted by BR1986FB

Wonder if there's someone out there the Browns covet? Over the last few days Bitonio & Garrett have both restructured their contracts and the Browns are sitting on almost $34 million in cap space.

Njoku just did it too. Wonder if they are going after someone now or preparing for a big signing next season? 


They now have almost $37 million in cap space.


Is there anyone big on their own team that needs signed long term right now that I'm not thinking of?


EDIT: I just looked, no big names that end at the end of this year on the team. Next year (their contract ends after 2024) we have Chubb, Cooper, E. Moore, JOK all FAs. They could be freeing up space to resign a couple of them but that wouldn't take up $34 million this season for sure.


EDIT 2: Looking forward, some of this was because these guys had HUTE cap hits in 2024. Garrett was $35MM, Bitonio was $20MM, Njoku was $19. They were scheduled to be $86MM OVER the cap in 2024, unless they restruction Watson, this cap space they are making for this year is going to be used to rollover into next year. Watson's number next year is $64MM cap hit for just him.


They aren't signing anyone, they are starting early on trying to fix next year's disaster and still have a team to compete.

BR1986FB

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Wed, Aug 23, 2023 9:32 AM
posted by jmog


They aren't signing anyone, they are starting early on trying to fix next year's disaster and still have a team to compete.

This. They should actually be in decent shape for what Jack Duffin, the OBR's resident capologist, is saying.

Also, for as much as people want to rip on Haslam as an owner, unlike the Dolan's, he's willing to spend and is passionate about winning.

gut

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Wed, Aug 23, 2023 10:36 AM

How has Watson looked?  Is he regaining all pro-form, or jury still out?

Laley23

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Wed, Aug 23, 2023 10:49 AM

WOnder if we run Chubb into the ground and kick him to the curb for Taylor.

BR1986FB

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Wed, Aug 23, 2023 11:13 AM
posted by gut

How has Watson looked?  Is he regaining all pro-form, or jury still out?

He looked solid in the limited duty he had. Drove down to the 1 yard line and Stefanski got super conservative and just ran it up the gut. Sounds like he didn't want to show that much of the red zone offense.

The 1's will be playing against the Chiefs on Saturday so we'll see more then. From all I've heard, he's looked light years better in training camp now that they are running an offense tailored to him instead of Brissett...but again, just training camp.

iclfan2

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Sat, Aug 26, 2023 6:05 PM

There are a ton of veteran kickers out there. They HAVE to bring one in. 

BR1986FB

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Sat, Aug 26, 2023 7:09 PM
posted by iclfan2

There are a ton of veteran kickers out there. They HAVE to bring one in. 

Watched a lot of this but was at my grandson's birthday party at the end and was tracking it on ESPN Gamecast. When the Browns got down to KC's 25 yard line before the blocked FG, the "probability of winning" for the Browns was like 72%. I chuckled and said "they obviously haven't been paying attention to the Browns kicker."

QuakerOats

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Mon, Aug 28, 2023 2:00 PM

Looks like York is gone.

Laley23

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Mon, Aug 28, 2023 2:31 PM

Dustin Hopkins has had a solid career, but he hasnt been a regular in awhile. Better than York.

iclfan2

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Mon, Sep 4, 2023 4:27 PM

Shocking news… Denzel Ward in his 2nd week of concussion protocol for the 50th time

BR1986FB

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Fri, Sep 8, 2023 1:21 PM
posted by iclfan2

Shocking news… Denzel Ward in his 2nd week of concussion protocol for the 50th time

He's starting though. If he didn't have so much money on the table should probably consider hanging them up.

BR1986FB

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Fri, Sep 8, 2023 1:21 PM

WR's have that special idiot gene...

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Ironman92

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Fri, Sep 8, 2023 1:25 PM
posted by BR1986FB

WR's have that special idiot gene...

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He’s an obvious pick for a star receiver that’ll turn crazy before too long


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BR1986FB

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Fri, Sep 8, 2023 1:57 PM
posted by Ironman92

He’s an obvious pick for a star receiver that’ll turn crazy before too long


Regardless of their thought process, these fools just have no filter and it seems like it's ALWAYS WR's.

BR1986FB

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Sun, Sep 10, 2023 10:11 AM

GO BROWNS !!!

iclfan2

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Sun, Sep 10, 2023 1:31 PM

Watson underthrows Goodwin, Chubb looks good, somehow no flag on the Watson hit, handed off to someone other than Chubb and fumbled. 

Laley23

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Sun, Sep 10, 2023 2:20 PM

Watson is 10 yards short on all throws. This is awful. Can Cleveland build a goddamn dome so I know if Watson sucks or if it’s cause he’s played in a monsoon 5/7 games for Cleveland lol

BR1986FB

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Sun, Sep 10, 2023 4:10 PM

Outcome was pretty much what I expected, a brutal Browns defense and a victory. Expected it to be a bit closer though. Browns need to tighten up that offense. Pittsburgh's defense should be a real good test. People sleeping on these guys and I LOVE it!

Dr Winston O'Boogie

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Sun, Sep 10, 2023 4:13 PM

Go Browns!  Great win! 

iclfan2

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Sun, Sep 10, 2023 4:16 PM

Great finish by Garrett and Chubb, and then the finish by Desean to cap it off. Definitely gonna need to clean up some things for Monday night in Pittsburgh. I didn’t watch their game but doesn’t seem like they did great vs. the 49ers. 

BR1986FB

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Sun, Sep 10, 2023 4:19 PM
posted by iclfan2

Great finish by Garrett and Chubb, and then the finish by Desean to cap it off. Definitely gonna need to clean up some things for Monday night in Pittsburgh. I didn’t watch their game but doesn’t seem like they did great vs. the 49ers. 

Was thrilled to see Garrett make a huge play in a key moment. Usually he disappears late in games but not today.

Pittsburgh's defense should be a test. Not going to comment on their offense. Think it will be pretty low scoring.