Pittsburgh "73-89" Pirates 2018 Thread

Ironman92 Administrator
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Mon, Jul 16, 2018 3:27 PM

En fuego

Heretic Son of the Sun
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Tue, Jul 31, 2018 11:27 AM

Played their way into being buyers, trading Taylor Hearn and a PTBNL to Texas for their closer (Kela?), who'll probably set up Felipe. I mean, I guess I overall looked at relief pitching as one of the team's lesser problems (Vasquez has been great, Crick is surprisingly good, Rodriguez and Santana have been quality middle guys and Glasnow and Brault can at least eat innings), so I'd be hoping for some sort of upgrade to the starting pitching, or maybe infield. But since I thought the team would be a depressing seller a couple weeks ago, just the fact they're trying to contend is encouraging.

Heretic Son of the Sun
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Tue, Jul 31, 2018 3:41 PM

MLB Trade Rumors now saying they have a deal in place to get Chris Archer from Tampa. Be interesting to see how much they give up, since TB wasn't overly interesting in trading him unless they were super impressed with a deal, due to years of control.

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Tue, Jul 31, 2018 3:50 PM

Archer is a good get. Would've been cool with the Reds going after him.

Ironman92 Administrator
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Tue, Jul 31, 2018 3:54 PM

I think Archer is a great get. Pitched in a league of tough parks for pitchers and DH league....now he’s in way better place with a league that doesn’t know him well.

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Tue, Jul 31, 2018 4:01 PM
posted by Ironman92

I think Archer is a great get. Pitched in a league of tough parks for pitchers and DH league....now he’s in way better place with a league that doesn’t know him well.

Would you have given up Senzel for Archer?

Curious what the Pirates would be giving up for him, and what a comparable package from the Reds would look like.

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Tue, Jul 31, 2018 4:14 PM

Looks like Meadows and Glasnow. Heavy haul for archer, although you’ve got him for 3 years and he’s a solid sp. can’t really be mad about it I guess. 

Ironman92 Administrator
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Tue, Jul 31, 2018 4:18 PM
posted by justincredible

Would you have given up Senzel for Archer?

Curious what the Pirates would be giving up for him, and what a comparable package from the Reds would look like.

Archer under control for 3 1/2 years, not sure I would’ve pulled that though...depends some on my thoughts on Trammel

Heretic Son of the Sun
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Tue, Jul 31, 2018 4:45 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Looks like Meadows and Glasnow. Heavy haul for archer, although you’ve got him for 3 years and he’s a solid sp. can’t really be mad about it I guess. 

And one more player who is considered a high-quality piece. Overall, it depends on who that guy is. Glasnow has been an elite prospect, but never shown consistency in the bigs (and being a decent long/middle reliever this year doesn't count, considering the pedigree). I like Meadows, but at least the team has a lot of outfield depth prospect-wise. He could have been a good one for us, or lost in the shuffle. And they'd have to give that much or more up for Archer due to the years of control. TB wasn't going to give him up without getting a lot in return.

Heretic Son of the Sun
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Mon, Aug 20, 2018 10:53 PM

They've given up one run per game over a five-game stretch. They're 2-3 over that span. How the fuck is that even possible to suck that bad on offense?

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