OSU Football 2018

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Wed, Jan 2, 2019 9:18 AM
posted by wildcats20

Urban is hands down #1 for me in OSU history. 

All time? Probably 2nd or 3rd. Although, his winning percentage makes a strong case for 1st. 

I was going to say he should be #1 for OSU, but I have a feeling some will still say Woody.  I also was going to say he is in the top 5 all time without even looking at all of the coaches.  I don't think he has a strong case for #1.  He is not topping Saban.  

FatHobbit Senior Member
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Wed, Jan 2, 2019 10:29 AM

For me, it's really hard to compare Woody to Urban. 

Woody had 5 national titles and 13 big ten titles. That's hard to top but it was also a different era when they voted on national titles. 

I am a huge fan of Tressel but I do think Urban surpassed him. Although 2002 and undefeated was pretty special. I'm not sure the 2006 title loss to Florida doesn't make me rate Urban a little higher. Not sure if that's fair or not. 

So for me 

1. Woody

2. Urban

3. Tressel 

Nationally, I would then include all the other success in Urban's career but  I would have to think about it more because I'm not sure about other coaches historically. I do think sadly that I would have to begrudgingly rate Saban's success at Alabama and LSU over Urban's. 

slingshot4ever Senior Member
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Wed, Jan 2, 2019 10:45 AM
posted by SportsAndLady

I know, how silly of me not to get excited that our preseason top 5 team didn’t even make it to the playoffs. I love irrelevant bowl wins over Washington. Great season guyz.  

We were #5 preseason, so expectations were met as we barely missed out on playoff.  How is it that #5 team would be championship or bust.  I would have said coming into the year that only Clemson and Alabama should have felt that way.

OSU had a new QB, lost #1 pick in the draft at the third game with a weak LB core and an inexperienced DB group.  

If if you want to be disappointed about a season where we should have expected a N.C. that would be 2015, not 2018.

slingshot4ever Senior Member
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Wed, Jan 2, 2019 10:47 AM
posted by wildcats20

Urban is hands down #1 for me in OSU history. 

All time? Probably 2nd or 3rd. Although, his winning percentage makes a strong case for 1st. 

Saban will finish his career with #1 distinction I think.  Interested to see if Dabo can keep this up...I guess as long as the ACC remains weak he will have a pretty high win %

queencitybuckeye Senior Member
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Wed, Jan 2, 2019 11:13 AM
posted by FatHobbit

 

Woody had 5 national titles and 13 big ten titles. That's hard to top but it was also a different era when they voted on national titles. 

While 1961 can be debated, I personally hate tOSU claim of the 1970 title, which was from a poll awarded prior to the bowl games.

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Wed, Jan 2, 2019 12:34 PM
posted by slingshot4ever

We were #5 preseason, so expectations were met as we barely missed out on playoff.  How is it that #5 team would be championship or bust.  I would have said coming into the year that only Clemson and Alabama should have felt that way.

OSU had a new QB, lost #1 pick in the draft at the third game with a weak LB core and an inexperienced DB group.  

If if you want to be disappointed about a season where we should have expected a N.C. that would be 2015, not 2018.

Agree to disagree. Championship caliber coach, heisman finalist QB, preseason top 5 ranking, and an all American DE (probably #1 overall pick). All of that and we didn’t even get to the playoffs. This rose bowl game felt like a participation trophy. 

Not saying it was a “bad” year. Just that I’m certainly not going to say I’m happy with the result. 

Automatik Senior Member
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Wed, Jan 2, 2019 12:45 PM

Bosa got hurt in game 3, not sure how that can be a factor.

I'm certainly not thrilled with the season, but not that disappointed. I felt last year was championship or bust. 

Heretic Son of the Sun
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Wed, Jan 2, 2019 12:53 PM
posted by FatHobbit

Idk, for his career at Washington he is 923/1430 for 64.5%, 11,983 yards, 94 tds and 34 ints. His record as a starter is 39-15. I'm not saying he's the best ever but i'm not sure "so so bad" is really accurate either. 

From what I read, Browning was a really good QB at one time, but as his college career went on, for whatever reason his numbers declined. I think this year was his worst year as a starter for them by far.

As for "good year, bad year", it's kind of a gray area for me. On one hand, if you said 13-1, B1G champ and Rose Bowl champ at the beginning of the year with a first-year starter with one game of legit experience (ie: not against a scrub team in the final minutes) and all that defensive turnover, I'd have called it a great season.

On the other, when you take into consideration that their one loss was a blowout to a mediocre-at-best team, they had multiple close calls against other mediocre-to-poor teams and that the PAC-12 is down to the level that it was hard for me to not look at yesterday's game as almost a "lose/lose" where if they won, they easily should have and if they lost, it'd be an embarrassing way to end things --- then winding up where they did was a bit disappointing. Because it's real easy to think, "What if they showed up at Purdue?" or "Would they have gotten by Oklahoma and Georgia to be the fourth seed if that Purdue game was a complete fluke instead of the game they did lose out of 3-4 they could have easily lost?" and then wonder how things would have turned out if they did get in.

They won, Urban gets to go out a winner with his first Rose Bowl win in as many attempts and everything seems set up for a smooth transition, so that's all cool. But, damn, it's hard to not shake the feeling that it SHOULD have been more.

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Wed, Jan 2, 2019 1:44 PM
posted by Automatik

Bosa got hurt in game 3, not sure how that can be a factor.

I'm certainly not thrilled with the season, but not that disappointed. I felt last year was championship or bust. 

It was a disappointment to see him get injured. Losing Bosa really hurt and that’s what I meant by adding that in there. I’m not “blaming” anyone for the injury, just saying it was another shitty part of this season.  

FatHobbit Senior Member
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Wed, Jan 2, 2019 2:49 PM
posted by Heretic

From what I read, Browning was a really good QB at one time, but as his college career went on, for whatever reason his numbers declined. I think this year was his worst year as a starter for them by far.

Not trying to beat a dead horse, because I don't think he's the best ever but

 

2015 233/369 63.1% 2955 yards 16 tds and 10 ints

2016 243/391 62.1% 3430 yards 43 tds and 9 ints

2017 230/336 67.5% 2719 yards 19 tds and 5 ints

2018 252/388 64.9% 3192 yards 16 tds and 10 ints

 

This is part of why I think Haskins should probably go. His draft stock will never be higher and he will be losing some pretty good receivers. 

Heretic Son of the Sun
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Wed, Jan 2, 2019 3:33 PM
posted by FatHobbit

Not trying to beat a dead horse, because I don't think he's the best ever but

 

2015 233/369 63.1% 2955 yards 16 tds and 10 ints

2016 243/391 62.1% 3430 yards 43 tds and 9 ints

2017 230/336 67.5% 2719 yards 19 tds and 5 ints

2018 252/388 64.9% 3192 yards 16 tds and 10 ints

 

This is part of why I think Haskins should probably go. His draft stock will never be higher and he will be losing some pretty good receivers. 

Guess I was a bit off with saying this was his worst by far. He was really good as a soph and blah his other three years.

superman Senior Member
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Wed, Jan 2, 2019 4:15 PM
posted by Heretic

Guess I was a bit off with saying this was his worst by far. He was really good as a soph and blah his other three years.

He has some weapons around him his sophomore year.  

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Fri, Jan 4, 2019 11:51 AM

Welcome to Columbus, Justin Fields

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Fri, Jan 4, 2019 12:25 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Welcome to Columbus, Justin Fields

Will be interesting. He SHOULD have to sit out a year, but using racism as an excuse may help it slide by. 

vball10set paying it forward
26,788 posts 121 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Jan 4, 2019 12:34 PM

boom...but this also confirms Haskins will declare for the NFL draft, and contrary to what Martell says, he’ll probably be transferring as well...still...BOOM!

ernest_t_bass 12th Son of the Lama
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Fri, Jan 4, 2019 12:48 PM

How many years eligibility will he have (let's say he plays full schedule next year) in the Scarlet and Gray?

queencitybuckeye Senior Member
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Fri, Jan 4, 2019 12:49 PM
posted by iclfan2

Will be interesting. He SHOULD have to sit out a year, but using racism as an excuse may help it slide by. 

Based on the current rules. IMO, no one should have to sit out a year.

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Fri, Jan 4, 2019 12:50 PM

He’s a true sophomore next year. I think he’ll win the hardship 

ernest_t_bass 12th Son of the Lama
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Fri, Jan 4, 2019 1:27 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

He’s a true sophomore next year. I think he’ll win the hardship 

Did he play in 4 games this year?  Will he be true sophomore eligibility or RS Frosh?

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Fri, Jan 4, 2019 1:30 PM
posted by ernest_t_bass

Did he play in 4 games this year?  Will he be true sophomore eligibility or RS Frosh?

He played in 12/13 games. True soph

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