Browns season 2021

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Wed, Oct 6, 2021 11:13 AM
posted by Laley23

He's still rated extremely high in pass coverage, which is where Browns would need the help. 

PFF has him ranked 11th overall (even if you don't agree with PFF, its not nothing). That ranking is due mostly to his coverage numbers this season. Rush defense he has lost his quick first step and has taken bad gaps to the carrier. Both of those problems are basicallu moot in pass coverage though.

I've come around to PFF. They aren't the end all, be all but they have value. If he's still good in coverage he's worth kicking the tires on.

Speaking of which, PFF's first quarter all-pro team. Five 1st team Browns and one 2nd team (Kicker, like anyone's beating out Justin Tucker?)

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-all-pro-team-first-quarter-2021

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Thu, Oct 7, 2021 11:32 AM

NFL Network is reporting that Baker has been playing with a partially torn labrum in his left shoulder.

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Thu, Oct 7, 2021 12:27 PM
posted by BR1986FB

NFL Network is reporting that Baker has been playing with a partially torn labrum in his left shoulder.

Saying it doesn't need surgery. But doesn't that mean he will be playing all season with this? I didn't think a torn labrum could heal/re-attach on its own.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Thu, Oct 7, 2021 12:40 PM
posted by Laley23

Saying it doesn't need surgery. But doesn't that mean he will be playing all season with this? I didn't think a torn labrum could heal/re-attach on its own.

Yep and I'm not sure if it can get worse if opponents start targeting it. Might not need surgery now but bet he will later. I'm assuming even if it could heal itself that it wouldn't during the season with the hits he'll take.

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Thu, Oct 7, 2021 12:54 PM
posted by Laley23

Saying it doesn't need surgery. But doesn't that mean he will be playing all season with this? I didn't think a torn labrum could heal/re-attach on its own.

OBJ says he’d had one for 10 years but doesn’t want surgery. Says it hurts like shit and it pops out occasionally. 


BR1986FB Senior Member
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 12:20 PM

No rocket science but the Browns have to establish the run today. Bolts are giving up almost 150/ypg on the ground and the Browns haven't rushed for less than 150 yards in a game. LA's game plan should be to bottle up the run and try to make Baker beat them deep. They know he has a bum wing that's affecting him.  I'd keep the Chargers defense honest with a deep ball on the first play.

No Jed Wills so the rookie, Hudson, will likely have the task of limiting Bosa. Last time these teams played the DC for the Chargers moved Bosa & Ingram to DT and rushed them up the middle.

GO BROWNS !!!

Ironman92 Administrator
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 5:01 PM

Odell wth?

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 6:45 PM

Fuck refs. Fuck everything. Robots or bust. 

gut Senior Member
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 7:01 PM

Damn, Herbert could end-up being REALLY good.  Lot about his game reminds me of a young Roethlisberger.

But it will be tough playing in the same division as Mahomes, whom is probably the most gifted QB I've ever seen.  By a good margin.

mhs95_06 Senior Member
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 7:21 PM

The key to this game is who will successfully run out the clock!  Brown's had a chance and failed, Chargers then had a chance and were doing well until the Brown's novel strategy to drag them into the EZ to give them more than a minute to score a TD for the win!

gut Senior Member
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 7:26 PM

Rotinaj Senior Member
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 7:28 PM

What the fuck was that last drive? Awful. Can’t believe they lost this. 

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 7:28 PM
posted by mhs95_06

The key to this game is who will successfully run out the clock!  Brown's had a chance and failed, Chargers then had a chance and were doing well until the Brown's novel strategy to drag them into the EZ to give them more than a minute to score a TD for the win!

FUCK Stefanski and his personnel decisions ! EVERY time they have a shot to eat up the clock in the 4th quarter he trots lil Kareem Hunt out there when he has a battering ram in Chubb who could fall forward 3 plays in a row and get the 1st down. I've been grinding my teeth about this shit since last year. Chubb disappears on the bench in crunch time and Hunt is easily bottled up.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 7:30 PM
posted by gut

Enjoy the basement.

gut Senior Member
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 7:33 PM

Just thrilled PIT is still in the hunt....

But CLE finally looks like they've arrived.  Lost a few games they probably should have won, but they're well coached and closing out games.

Still not sold on Mayfield, but otherwise that team is absolutely a contender.

gut Senior Member
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 7:34 PM
posted by BR1986FB

Enjoy the basement.

Can't keep me down....unlike the Browns

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 7:35 PM
posted by gut

Just thrilled PIT is still in the hunt....

But if you're objective, they really aren't.
BRF Senior Member
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 7:36 PM

We sure did let that one get away. 

Now, we have to scratch and claw to try to make the playoffs. 

Of course, in my mind, we should be 5-0. 

But……..Cleveland. 

gut Senior Member
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 7:38 PM
posted by BR1986FB
But if you're objective, they really aren't.

Young offense with a new OC....they SHOULD get better.

So, objectively, Roethislerger and Tomlin have never had a losing season....and would have NEVER missed the playoffs in the current 7-team format.

So, objectively, you're a moron.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 7:39 PM
posted by gut

Young offense with a new OC....they SHOULD get better.

So, objectively, Roethislerger and Tomlin have never had a losing season....and would have NEVER missed the playoffs in the current 7-team format.

So, objectively, you're a moron.

Enjoy the basement.

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