LOCKED: Browns BS Drama Continued...

posted by Commander of Awesome

Looks like we can get out of it after 2 yrs. Steep for him, but not my money and we have the cap space. Great, now he needs to fucking produce.

where do you see this?

I still think Rosen will be the pick at 1. From what I have heard from someone in the know is that Rosen absolutely impressed everyone at his private work out and that Dorsey is the one that is still questionable on Rosen due to his “character concerns”. I know they have vetted Rosen extremely hard so there is a lot of truth to the mayfield vs Rosen. Honestly I would be completely ok with mayfield. But I would be over the moon with Rosen. I just think he is going to be a stud and a lot of his character issues are way over blown. He reminds me a lot of trever Bauer in a sense. 

posted by Crimson streak

I still think Rosen will be the pick at 1. From what I have heard from someone in the know is that Rosen absolutely impressed everyone at his private work out and that Dorsey is the one that is still questionable on Rosen due to his “character concerns”. I know they have vetted Rosen extremely hard so there is a lot of truth to the mayfield vs Rosen. Honestly I would be completely ok with mayfield. But I would be over the moon with Rosen. I just think he is going to be a stud and a lot of his character issues are way over blown. He reminds me a lot of trever Bauer in a sense. 

He actually reminds me of Bauer too. My concerns aren't his character. It's his injury history more than anything.

posted by BR1986FB

He actually reminds me of Bauer too. My concerns aren't his character. It's his injury history more than anything.

This, would be fine with Rosen even though I have him as the 3rd QB.

I'd be fine with anyone but Mayfield--if he comes to Cleveland, he'll be yet another bust. Period.

posted by Commander of Awesome

This, would be fine with Rosen even though I have him as the 3rd QB.

Yeah, I don't really have an issue if Rosen's a dick, or not. To me, Rosen & Mayfield are the two who could step on the field in Week 1 and play. The others need to sit. The fact Rosen's had 2 concussions, the shoulder issue and (recently heard) something with his leg, I'm pretty leery. 

posted by Commander of Awesome

This, would be fine with Rosen even though I have him as the 3rd QB.

Well you have mayfield as the top QB so I’ll take your rankings with a grain of salt. 

posted by BR1986FB

Yeah, I don't really have an issue if Rosen's a dick, or not. To me, Rosen & Mayfield are the two who could step on the field in Week 1 and play. The others need to sit. The fact Rosen's had 2 concussions, the shoulder issue and (recently heard) something with his leg, I'm pretty leery. 

This is more of a concern than the manufactured bullshit about his character issues.  There have been guys with domestic abuse issues, been arrested, DUIs, etc and they got drafted in the first round.  Now all of a sudden being smart and being an asshole is a character issue?  LOL.  That would be like the Colts passing up on Luck, because he is a nerd.

posted by SportsAndLady

Well you have mayfield as the top QB so I’ll take your rankings with a grain of salt. 

 

You're ok with taking a guy #1 overall who sucks at playing the position. I'll take your opinion out with the trash.

posted by Commander of Awesome

You're ok with taking a guy #1 overall who sucks at playing the position. I'll take your opinion out with the trash.

Link to where I said I’d be okay drafting Allen? Lol you won’t find it. 

Now get back to your quinoa salad and stop talking about mayfield being the top QB just because you think he’s hot. 

posted by like_that

This is more of a concern than the manufactured bullshit about his character issues.  There have been guys with domestic abuse issues, been arrested, DUIs, etc and they got drafted in the first round.  Now all of a sudden being smart and being an asshole is a character issue?  LOL.  That would be like the Colts passing up on Luck, because he is a nerd.

I'm the same with Mayfield. Sounds like he could be an asshole but I've also heard "leader of men", "driven to succeed", etc. I think the comparisons to JFF are stupid because they are polar opposites as far as their dedication to the game.

As long as these guys aren't beating women, killing people or domestic animals, drug addicts, etc, I don't give a crap if they are assholes. Jay Cutler, obviously not a top tier QB, was a known asshole and he had a pretty decent career.

And seriously, WTF do Quinoa and riding bikes have to do with a FOOTBALL discussion?

posted by like_that

This is more of a concern than the manufactured bullshit about his character issues.  There have been guys with domestic abuse issues, been arrested, DUIs, etc and they got drafted in the first round.  Now all of a sudden being smart and being an asshole is a character issue?  LOL.  That would be like the Colts passing up on Luck, because he is a nerd.

I do have to admit that Rosen's flags are the most lol-worthy attempt by dipshits attempting to look relevant. "We're worried about his chances of success BECAUSE HE HAS INTERESTS OTHER THAN FUTBAWL!!!!!!" Basically saying that because the dude's brain is capable of more than "I play hard for team do good.", he has really skewed priorities.

posted by BR1986FB

I'm the same with Mayfield. Sounds like he could be an asshole but I've also heard "leader of men", "driven to succeed", etc. I think the comparisons to JFF are stupid because they are polar opposites as far as their dedication to the game.

 

Nobody on this site is as passionate about the Browns as you, but for the life of me I don't get your obsession with Mayfield. I agree that the comparisons to Manziel as far as their off field issues may be tenuous at best, but their on field game is eerily similar. Maybe he'd fit into another system, but his size and lack of a cannon isn't conducive to playing in Cleveland...JMO.

posted by vball10set

Nobody on this site is as passionate about the Browns as you, but for the life of me I don't get your obsession with Mayfield. I agree that the comparisons to Manziel as far as their off field issues may be tenuous at best, but their on field game is eerily similar. Maybe he'd fit into another system, but his size and lack of a cannon isn't conducive to playing in Cleveland...JMO.

Not "obsessed" with him at all. Frankly, I've already expressed that none of these QB's thrill me. As I've said, I have concerns with Rosen's health history, I think Darnold isn't going to be any more that average/Andy Dalton and Allen is a media creation. Outside of his height, Mayfield checks all the boxes for me. If they "have" to take a QB in this draft, he'd be the first I'd take.

posted by BR1986FB

Not "obsessed" with him at all. Frankly, I've already expressed that none of these QB's thrill me. As I've said, I have concerns with Rosen's health history, I think Darnold isn't going to be any more that average/Andy Dalton and Allen is a media creation. Outside of his height, Mayfield checks all the boxes for me. If they "have" to take a QB in this draft, he'd be the first I'd take.

I don't agree with you on Darnold, but I do on Mayfield. Love his demeanor, accuracy, arm talent, etc... If he were 2 inches taller it would be a no brainer. I think Darnold has the chops to be a great QB as well though. Rosen, my concerns are injury related which is why he's #3. Mike White is my QB#4, then Lamar Jackson, then Mason, then JT Barret, then some other guys I don't know the name of, then Josh Allen.

posted by Commander of Awesome

I don't agree with you on Darnold, but I do on Mayfield. Love his demeanor, accuracy, arm talent, etc... If he were 2 inches taller it would be a no brainer. I think Darnold has the chops to be a great QB as well though. Rosen, my concerns are injury related which is why he's #3. Mike White is my QB#4, then Lamar Jackson, then Mason, then JT Barret, then some other guys I don't know the name of, then Josh Allen.

I believe the other guys you don't know the name of are Shane Falco, Paul Crewe and Uncle Rico.

posted by kizer permanente

where do you see this?

Cool. 

What a turd. Couldn't even put that dude on the field in jumbo packages, as a blocking TE, with any confidence.

Historically, if you've looked at where Dorsey's been and the type of QB he favors, he comes from a WCO type scheme. He hasn't generally (Mahomes might be the outlier) gone after the big armed QB. This would (possibly) favor Darnold or Mayfield as being their guy.