LOCKED: Browns BS Drama Continued...

24,621 posts 244 reps Joined May 2010
Tue, Dec 5, 2017 7:07 PM

Two names I'd keep an eye on: Pep Hamilton and John DeFlippio. Wouldn't QQ to see either be our OC.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Tue, Dec 5, 2017 8:34 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Give me a young, offensive minded coach. 

If they hire a John Fox type of coach, I'll lose my mind. If they hire a defensive-minded coach, i'll lose my mind. 

All of the NFL teams that have turned it around have done so with young, offensive-minded coaches. 

I wouldn't mind seeing them take a run at Frank Reich. He's not extremely young (56) but he's done wonders, working with Wentz, as the OC in Philly.

I said this earlier but one of the "hot" names, if not the hottest name, will be Pat Schurmur. Obviously we want no part of that but he's likely going to be a HC again.

24,621 posts 244 reps Joined May 2010
Wed, Dec 6, 2017 12:18 PM

I just want us to bring in John Dorsey, from KC to be GM.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 6, 2017 12:34 PM

This "Hue returning to Cincinnati if he's fired" stuff is continuing to gain some steam. I've heard 3 or 4 different national sources say he could replace Marvin or slip back into an OC role.

Now I don't like LaCanfora because he seems to take too much joy in the Browns misfortunes, but many times his sources are right. He said yesterday that he's been hearing that Hue could return to Cincy, in some role, "since August."

If this is in fact true, he should be released immediately, and give Sashi Brown a big hug for screwing up that AJ McCarron trade. Almost does look like Hue could've been setting up the Bengals for some nice draft picks if he were to be let go.

Mulva Senior Member
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Thu, Dec 7, 2017 10:35 AM

Sashi fired

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Thu, Dec 7, 2017 10:38 AM
posted by Mulva

Sashi fired

Which I think, unfortunately, might mean that Hue may stay.

ppaw1999 Senior Member
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Thu, Dec 7, 2017 10:38 AM

https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2017/12/6/16743658/espns-kiper-mcshay-predict-browns-no-1-overall-draft-pick-for-2018

l would be good with this. Just take a qb with the first pick please.

queencitybuckeye Senior Member
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Thu, Dec 7, 2017 10:40 AM
posted by SportsAndLady

All of the NFL teams that have turned it around have done so with young, offensive-minded coaches. 

Perhaps, but to assume that's the new normal as opposed to a cyclical phenomenon might be dangerous.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Thu, Dec 7, 2017 10:55 AM

It's likely a pipe dream but 92.3 had Chris Spielman on the other day and they asked him about the possibility of prying his brother, Rick, who is the personeel guy in charge, from the Vikings to return home to NE Ohio. Spielman has done a helluva job in Minny and will likely be a candidate for NFL Executive of the Year. The Browns would have to offer him a promotion in title (president role).

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Thu, Dec 7, 2017 10:57 AM
posted by BR1986FB

Which I think, unfortunately, might mean that Hue may stay.

 

Statement from Owner Jimmy Haslam:

“We have great appreciation and gratitude for Sashi’s commitment and leadership to our organization but believe transitioning to someone with strong experience and success in drafting and building consistently winning football teams is critical to the future of the Cleveland Browns. Today we informed Sashi that we were going in a new direction. The 2018 draft and offseason is pivotal for our franchise, we need to ensure that we maximize our opportunity for success; with our picks, free agency and building our roster. Hue Jackson will remain our coach and will return for the 2018 season but we feel it is necessary to take significant steps to strengthen our personnel department. We have begun the process of having productive conversations regarding leadership of our football operations and will provide further updates when appropriate. We thank Sashi for all his hard work and dedication to the Cleveland Browns.”

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/Browns-part-ways-with-Sashi-Brown/6c8a878f-2955-42b4-b131-6914ada5dae3?utm_source=l.facebook.com&utm_medium=referral

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Thu, Dec 7, 2017 10:59 AM
posted by Commander of Awesome

I just want us to bring in John Dorsey, from KC to be GM.

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iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
9,465 posts 98 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Dec 7, 2017 11:00 AM

Fuck Haslam. You can't bring in a GM and force him to have Hue as the coach. No real GM candidate should/ would be willing to take that. Hopefully he's full of shit or that Hue has some sort of out clause and leaves on his own. 

kizer permanente Senior Member
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Thu, Dec 7, 2017 11:20 AM

When it came out that Sashi leaves at 5pm on the dot daily, including the day of the trade deadline, there was no other option but he had to go. Hue shouldn't stay either though. New GM picks his coach.

thavoice Senior Member
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Thu, Dec 7, 2017 11:33 AM
posted by BR1986FB

 

Statement from Owner Jimmy Haslam:

“We have great appreciation and gratitude for Sashi’s commitment and leadership to our organization but believe transitioning to someone with strong experience and success in drafting and building consistently winning football teams is critical to the future of the Cleveland Browns. Today we informed Sashi that we were going in a new direction. The 2018 draft and offseason is pivotal for our franchise, we need to ensure that we maximize our opportunity for success; with our picks, free agency and building our roster. Hue Jackson will remain our coach and will return for the 2018 season but we feel it is necessary to take significant steps to strengthen our personnel department. We have begun the process of having productive conversations regarding leadership of our football operations and will provide further updates when appropriate. We thank Sashi for all his hard work and dedication to the Cleveland Browns.”

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/Browns-part-ways-with-Sashi-Brown/6c8a878f-2955-42b4-b131-6914ada5dae3?utm_source=l.facebook.com&utm_medium=referral

When they said they were going to try and take a moneyball approach it wasmgoing to be 1of 2 things. ....revolutionize the game or crash and burn.     Can the browns be the nfl version of the Astros in totally bottoming out and gathering a lot of talent?    Looks like he won't be around to find out.  But reallly.....this had to be done

24,621 posts 244 reps Joined May 2010
Thu, Dec 7, 2017 11:46 AM
posted by kizer permanente

When it came out that Sashi leaves at 5pm on the dot daily, including the day of the trade deadline, there was no other option but he had to go. Hue shouldn't stay either though. New GM picks his coach.

Still not sure if that is true or not. Sashi said it wasn't.

 

Regardless, I agree. Both need to go. Sahsi had to go once he failed to trade for Jimmy G.

24,621 posts 244 reps Joined May 2010
Thu, Dec 7, 2017 1:50 PM

Hue up at the podium givng a masters in spin. On two occasions during this presser, Hue Jackson referenced the Browns (1-27 over two seasons) as being 1-28. I guess we're banking on an L against the Packers?

thavoice Senior Member
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Thu, Dec 7, 2017 2:37 PM
posted by Commander of Awesome

Hue up at the podium givng a masters in spin. On two occasions during this presser, Hue Jackson referenced the Browns (1-27 over two seasons) as being 1-28. I guess we're banking on an L against the Packers?

I see the browns winning this week.  KISER will be in better sync with Gordon and GB will be overlooking this one for Rogers return 

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Thu, Dec 7, 2017 3:47 PM
posted by thavoice

I see the browns winning this week.  KISER will be in better sync with Gordon and GB will be overlooking this one for Rogers return 

Fuck off

thavoice Senior Member
15,437 posts 42 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Dec 7, 2017 4:38 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Fuck off

I presume you haven't taken up anger management classes yet?   

 

It's okay,   one day you will wake up and realise hatred and anger is not the way to go through life.

 

Have a blessed Christmas season.

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
29,228 posts 321 reps Joined Apr 2010
Thu, Dec 7, 2017 5:04 PM

Thavoice really needs to find a wife errrr i mean life. 

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