2021 NFL Season thread

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Sun, Dec 19, 2021 5:18 PM
posted by mhs95_06

Great tackle to win the game!  Spot way too generous to add controvery.

Lol one of the worst spots in history. He was at least a yard short. 


Ironman92 Administrator
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Sun, Dec 19, 2021 5:32 PM

Broncos join the list of team who can’t manage the clock

Ironman92 Administrator
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Sun, Dec 19, 2021 7:04 PM

Football is brutal 

A battle of attrition for whoever makes the playoffs

Heretic Son of the Sun
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Sun, Dec 19, 2021 7:31 PM

Ravens gonna have two losses in a three-week period in large part due to going for 2 and the win instead of the XP and overtime and failing both times. LOL! That's being a slump for you; try to make a play and watch it turn to shit!

Al Bundy Senior Member
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Sun, Dec 19, 2021 7:46 PM
posted by Heretic

Ravens gonna have two losses in a three-week period in large part due to going for 2 and the win instead of the XP and overtime and failing both times. LOL! That's being a slump for you; try to make a play and watch it turn to shit!

And last week, they were down 15 and scored a TD. Instead of kicking the XP to get it to 8, he went for 2 and stayed down 9 points. 

Ironman92 Administrator
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Sun, Dec 19, 2021 7:56 PM
posted by Heretic

Ravens gonna have two losses in a three-week period in large part due to going for 2 and the win instead of the XP and overtime and failing both times. LOL! That's being a slump for you; try to make a play and watch it turn to shit!

I hope and pray they don’t miss the playoffs


gut Senior Member
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Sun, Dec 19, 2021 8:42 PM

It backfired, but in both cases Harbaugh probably made the best call.

It's not like he has good options, and I'd ballpark both games at 60% he loses in OT, 60% he wins on 2-pt conversion.  That's significant (literally 50% better chance of winning), and most coaches don't have the balls to expose themselves to such second-guessing (much easier to talk about players after losing in OT vs. explaining a coaching decision on a failed 2-pt try).

All of us in the AFCN approve of that, of course.  Seems like there are a number of PIT/CLE/CIN fans here but no one for BAL.

My crystal ball says CIN wins the division and PIT is a wildcard at 9-7-1.  BAL at 9-8 and CLE at 8-9 left pointing fingers.

Ironman92 Administrator
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Sun, Dec 19, 2021 9:08 PM
posted by gut

It backfired, but in both cases Harbaugh probably made the best call.

It's not like he has good options, and I'd ballpark both games at 60% he loses in OT, 60% he wins on 2-pt conversion.  That's significant (literally 50% better chance of winning), and most coaches don't have the balls to expose themselves to such second-guessing (much easier to talk about players after losing in OT vs. explaining a coaching decision on a failed 2-pt try).

All of us in the AFCN approve of that, of course.  Seems like there are a number of PIT/CLE/CIN fans here but no one for BAL.

My crystal ball says CIN wins the division and PIT is a wildcard at 9-7-1.  BAL at 9-8 and CLE at 8-9 left pointing fingers.

How do you figure 60% chance Ravens lose both games in OT?


Al Bundy Senior Member
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Sun, Dec 19, 2021 10:13 PM
posted by gut

It backfired, but in both cases Harbaugh probably made the best call.

It's not like he has good options, and I'd ballpark both games at 60% he loses in OT, 60% he wins on 2-pt conversion.  That's significant (literally 50% better chance of winning), and most coaches don't have the balls to expose themselves to such second-guessing (much easier to talk about players after losing in OT vs. explaining a coaching decision on a failed 2-pt try).

All of us in the AFCN approve of that, of course.  Seems like there are a number of PIT/CLE/CIN fans here but no one for BAL.

My crystal ball says CIN wins the division and PIT is a wildcard at 9-7-1.  BAL at 9-8 and CLE at 8-9 left pointing fingers.

Baltimore is 2/8 on 2-point conversions this season, and they have the best kicker in history. I'm taking my chances in OT.

Ironman92 Administrator
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Sun, Dec 19, 2021 10:35 PM

NBC just broke it down at half

If Baltimore converts that 2 pt conversion they would’ve been a 78% chance to make the playoffs and 52% to win the division

Having not made it the 78% is now 50% and the 52% is now 26%


They were 2/7 on the season and the Ravens are the 16th best offense and going against the 8th best defense.

Those are huge % difference based on the outcome of one play and let’s face it, most of the world watching knew they’d go to Andrews. The safety knew it and the CB knew it, it wasn’t very close and it was too difficult. Talk about risk/reward.


I know the game has changed but Ravens always known for their control offense and stout defense….mix in the best kicker to ever walk on planet earth. Now they are virtually that same offense but just go for everything in the biggest situations.


They are my least favorite team so it’s whatever….but it’s perplexing. The Bengals have a chance to put them on life support next week in the Jungle.

friendfromlowry Senior Member
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Sun, Dec 19, 2021 10:48 PM

I imagine Lamar will be back next week but idk if that’s a good or bad thing? Huntley has played well the last couple weeks. By backup standards anyways. Has there really been a huge dropoff from Lamar to him? 

Ironman92 Administrator
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Sun, Dec 19, 2021 11:32 PM

Ok….more fun


On that last XP attempt, go for XP and a 42.1% chance to win, go for 2 and a 38.9% chance to win

Keep defending this stuff

Ironman92 Administrator
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Sun, Dec 19, 2021 11:41 PM

Sticking with my narrative that the team that needs to win to stay in the race and keep it more interesting…is likely to win

Basically every single game. Steelers over Titans, Saints over Bucs, Colts, Bills, Dolphins….Chargers losing, Ravens losing Cards losing, Bucs losing all make it more interesting.

Bengals over the Broncos was the one game where the loser needed the win more but Bengals in the tightest of all divisions.

If the Raiders beat the Browns….but I think the Browns winning is more interesting with 3 weeks left.


And at least the AFC all those teams alive or somewhat in it are all facing each other in the final 3 weeks and almost every WC possible team has a tough non-division game left too. It’s still crazy wide open and completely unpredictable.

The AFC is insane.

Ironman92 Administrator
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Sun, Dec 19, 2021 11:51 PM

AFC North remaining schedule:

Steelers

@Chiefs

Vs Browns

@ Ravens


Ravens:

@Bengals

Vs Rams

Vs Steelers


Bengals:

Vs Ravens

Vs Chiefs

@ Browns


Browns:

Vs Packers

@ Steelers

Vs Bengals 

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Mon, Dec 20, 2021 9:13 AM
posted by gut

and PIT is a wildcard at 9-7-1. 

Not happening. Buffalo, the Chargers and Colts are all ahead of the Rats, Browns & Steelers at 8 wins. Looking at their (first three teams) remaining schedules, they should each have 10 wins to finish the season. They'd beat all AFCN teams on tiebreakers. Nine wins won't get in even with the goofball tie. The AFCN is likely looking at a division winner to get in and that's it.
Ironman92 Administrator
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Mon, Dec 20, 2021 9:50 AM
posted by BR1986FB
Not happening. Buffalo, the Chargers and Colts are all ahead of the Rats, Browns & Steelers at 8 wins. Looking at their (first three teams) remaining schedules, they should each have 10 wins to finish the season. They'd beat all AFCN teams on tiebreakers. Nine wins won't get in even with the goofball tie. The AFCN is likely looking at a division winner to get in and that's it.

The Colts are IMO the 2nd best team in the AFC, but their schedule isn’t a guarantee for winning 2 of the last 3 (I do agree it’s likely)

Bills and Chargers very likely

The Detroit tie is likely going to bite the Steelers (if they actually play decent the remaining weeks.


BR1986FB Senior Member
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Mon, Dec 20, 2021 10:02 AM
posted by Ironman92

The Colts are IMO the 2nd best team in the AFC, but their schedule isn’t a guarantee for winning 2 of the last 3 (I do agree it’s likely)

Bills and Chargers very likely

The Detroit tie is likely going to bite the Steelers (if they actually play decent the remaining weeks.


That's why I factored the Colts at 10 wins. No guarantee they get there but I wouldn't bet against them with the way they are playing. 

New England's defense is really good. They told the Colts they were going to stop the run and Indy essentially curb stomped the Pats run D. 

Defense/ball control running game travels well.

Of the three I think the Bills are the biggest fraud.

Ironman92 Administrator
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Mon, Dec 20, 2021 10:07 AM
posted by BR1986FB

That's why I factored the Colts at 10 wins. No guarantee they get there but I wouldn't bet against them with the way they are playing. 

New England's defense is really good. They told the Colts they were going to stop the run and Indy essentially curb stomped the Pats run D. 

Defense/ball control running game travels well.

Of the three I think the Bills are the biggest fraud.

Yeah with that schedule.

I still don’t trust Wentz, on the road in the playoffs. If he could be a Flacco solid QB in those games they could make a lot of noise.

The playoff team that gets good pressure on Herbert will be the team that beats the Chargers in the playoffs (I’ll say that for Bengals too if they make it)


BR1986FB Senior Member
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Mon, Dec 20, 2021 10:09 AM
posted by Ironman92

Yeah with that schedule.

I still don’t trust Wentz, on the road in the playoffs. If he could be a Flacco solid QB in those games they could make a lot of noise.

The playoff team that gets good pressure on Herbert will be the team that beats the Chargers in the playoffs (I’ll say that for Bengals too if they make it)


Colts may not need Wentz with the way they're running the ball and playing defense. He could "Dilfer" his way through the playoffs.

Ironman92 Administrator
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Mon, Dec 20, 2021 12:53 PM

Add in 6 more for Browns or 7 more for Raiders after tonight.

Surprised by Titans (high) and Colts (low)…..not surprised by Bills/Dolphins/Broncos

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