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Violence in video games/movies/tv.

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thavoice Senior Member
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Thu, Mar 8, 2018 3:09 PM

Went to scene 75 last weekend, like a Dave and busters I guess.

 

As we were standing around waiting for games to open up I looked around and saw shooting game after shooting game and thought to myself...?no wonder we have a violence issue.

 

30 yrs ago when this was bought up I just laughed at the notion but now......maybe there is something to that argument.

 

What say you 

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Thu, Mar 8, 2018 3:18 PM

Grew up with Grand Theft Auto/ Goldeneye/ Halo/ Call of Duty. Haven't shot anyone yet. It may encourage already screwed up in the head kids
thavoice Senior Member
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Thu, Mar 8, 2018 3:24 PM
posted by iclfan2

Grew up with Grand Theft Auto/ Goldeneye/ Halo/ Call of Duty. Haven't shot anyone yet. It may encourage already screwed up in the head kids

The last part is what I'm getting at really.   People have diff minds and thoughts and impulse control.   For the most part people fall in line but there are sick people and i dont doubt it can encourage some to act out in that fashion than if they were never exposed to it.   

 

I think I fall in the crowd of.....all the violence cannot help the situation.
HOF on coattails Junior Member
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Thu, Mar 8, 2018 3:34 PM
posted by thavoice

Went to scene 75 last weekend, like a Dave and busters I guess.

 

As we were standing around waiting for games to open up I looked around and saw shooting game after shooting game and thought to myself...?no wonder we have a violence issue.

 

30 yrs ago when this was bought up I just laughed at the notion but now......maybe there is something to that argument.

 

What say you 

The entire world has access to violent video games.  The difference is America's access to guns, not games.  
thavoice Senior Member
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Thu, Mar 8, 2018 3:36 PM
posted by HOF on coattails

The entire world has access to violent video games.  The difference is America's access to guns, not games.  

Very true.   I wonder what games man other places play.

 

In always just played sports games.
Ironman92 Administrator
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Thu, Mar 8, 2018 4:27 PM

Good parenting and these games don’t affect anything.

 

i grew up watching Elmer Fudd shoot Daffy Duck in the face and Wile E Coyote falling off huge cliffs and splatting  on the ground....neither ever died but I understood I couldn’t and shouldn’t shoot my friend or enemy in the face.
gut Senior Member
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Thu, Mar 8, 2018 4:36 PM

You know you're getting old when arguments from 20-25 years ago are being re-booted.  It's movies.  It's music.  It's video games.  No, it's shitty parents that don't care and aren't around.

I don't know if Trump is a Democrat or Republican, but he's DEFINITELY a 90's politican with some of his talking points and agendas.
Spock Senior Member
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Thu, Mar 8, 2018 6:48 PM

i am 45.  I grew up right in the middle of the desencitization to violence.  To see violent things we had to rent some VHS cassette from the video store that showed shit like monkeys getting their heads cut off (dont remember the name of the movie)

 

I would say that video games were part of this and likely started some of it but movies, music videos, the "real world" TV model, music lyrics other shock culture stuff from the early 90's played a major role.

 

i mean hell what year was this?  One of the most violent moment in about any movie.
Verbal Kint Senior Member
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Thu, Mar 8, 2018 7:27 PM
posted by thavoice

Very true.   I wonder what games man other places play.

They go outside and play soccer 

 
gut Senior Member
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Thu, Mar 8, 2018 9:06 PM
posted by Spock

i mean hell what year was this?  One of the most violent moment in about any movie.

Without looking it up, I'm guessing 1987
like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Thu, Mar 8, 2018 9:22 PM
posted by Said The entire world has access to violent video games.  The difference is America's access to guns, not games.  

Thanks said.  I assume this explains why Japan has such a high suicide rate?
gut Senior Member
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Thu, Mar 8, 2018 9:26 PM
posted by like_that

Thanks said.  I assume this explains why Japan has such a high suicide rate?

And let's not forget guns were part of American culture since our founding....but gun homicides didn't really develop until the 1960's.  The history of mass murders goes back decades before that, but now they prefer to use guns.
Heretic Son of the Sun
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Thu, Mar 8, 2018 9:29 PM
posted by gut

You know you're getting old when arguments from 20-25 years ago are being re-booted.  It's movies.  It's music.  It's video games.  No, it's shitty parents that don't care and aren't around.

I don't know if Trump is a Democrat or Republican, but he's DEFINITELY a 90's politican with some of his talking points and agendas.

Yep; trying to blame games is just a lame-ass scapegoating attempt by a lame-ass "leader".
like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Thu, Mar 8, 2018 9:29 PM
posted by gut

You know you're getting old when arguments from 20-25 years ago are being re-booted.  It's movies.  It's music.  It's video games.  No, it's shitty parents that don't care and aren't around.

I don't know if Trump is a Democrat or Republican, but he's DEFINITELY a 90's politican with some of his talking points and agendas.

The simple answer to many problems in this country.  The majority of the issues in this country could be solved by good parenting. 
Ironman92 Administrator
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Thu, Mar 8, 2018 9:31 PM

Too many parents truly truly suck. I cannot emphasize this enough.
gut Senior Member
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Thu, Mar 8, 2018 10:22 PM
posted by Ironman92

Too many parents truly truly suck. I cannot emphasize this enough.

Which, oddly enough, maybe it IS vidoes games, tv, music and movies.  Those things, along with the smartphone/tablets/computers, are all much cheaper and more available today....and they've become a replacement for parenting.

Sure, 25-30 years ago the television was still the stand-in babysitter/parent for a lot of deplorables.  But programming was also a lot more family oriented then.
HOF on coattails Junior Member
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Fri, Mar 9, 2018 3:45 AM
posted by like_that

Thanks said.  I assume this explains why Japan has such a high suicide rate?

No, it doesn't.  

Japan's long tradition of "honorable suicide" is one reason for the high rate.

Japan also has no history of  make-belief religions, like Christianity.  Suicide is not a sin. 
SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Fri, Mar 9, 2018 7:47 AM
posted by HOF on coattails

No, it doesn't.  

Japan's long tradition of "honorable suicide" is one reason for the high rate.

Japan also has no history of  make-belief religions, like Christianity.  Suicide is not a sin. 

Hahah
justincredible Honorable Admin
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Fri, Mar 9, 2018 9:54 AM
posted by HOF on coattails

No, it doesn't.  

Japan's long tradition of "honorable suicide" is one reason for the high rate.

Japan also has no history of  make-belief religions, like Christianity.  Suicide is not a sin. 

I'll assume you don't consider the 20k+ suicides by gun per year in the USA when talking about gun deaths like most grabbers do?
OSH Kosh B'Gosh
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Fri, Mar 9, 2018 9:57 AM

Saw a tweet about this yesterday, I agree.

If violence is blamed on video games, how come I'm not a world-class soccer player?
justincredible Honorable Admin
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Fri, Mar 9, 2018 10:10 AM

If we're trying to find a reason for these kids shooting up schools, outside of parenting issues, I'd be more likely to look into the drugs they are being given that to look at violent games/movies. What percentage of school shooters were on some sort of psychotropic drug?

From the National Institute of Mental Health:

What are the possible side effects of antidepressants?

Some antidepressants may cause more side effects than others. You may need to try several different antidepressant medications before finding the one that improves your symptoms and that causes side effects that you can manage.

The most common side effects listed by the FDA include:

  • Nausea and vomiting
  • Weight gain
  • Diarrhea
  • Sleepiness
  • Sexual problems

Call your doctor right away if you have any of the following symptoms, especially if they are new, worsening, or worry you(U.S. Food and Drug Administration, 2011):

  • Thoughts about suicide or dying
  • Attempts to commit suicide
  • New or worsening depression
  • New or worsening anxiety
  • Feeling very agitated or restless
  • Panic attacks
  • Trouble sleeping (insomnia)
  • New or worsening irritability
  • Acting aggressively, being angry, or violent
  • Acting on dangerous impulses
  • An extreme increase in activity and talking (mania)
  • Other unusual changes in behavior or mood

https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/mental-health-medications/index.shtml

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