posted by SpockI just got an email from the Miami county health board and they said that the CDC states that wearing a mask DOES NOT reduce the risk of transmission and if you are exposed to a active person that regardless of a mask being on or not, you are quarintined for the same amount of time.
So theres that.
Did they at least spell quarantined right?
posted by SpockI just got an email from the Miami county health board and they said that the CDC states that wearing a mask DOES NOT reduce the risk of transmission and if you are exposed to a active person that regardless of a mask being on or not, you are quarintined for the same amount of time.
So theres that.
"Cloth face coverings may help prevent people who have COVID-19 from spreading the virus to others. Wearing a cloth face covering will help protect people around you.." - June 28th
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/about-face-coverings.html
So, are you lying or is the Miami County Health Board full of shit?
posted by Dr Winston O'BoogieNot anti-mask. I wear mine where required.
I was laying on the sarcasm pretty thick for the sanctimonious crowd.
posted by SportsAndLadyJesus shut up
STFU
posted by friendfromlowry"Cloth face coverings may help prevent people who have COVID-19 from spreading the virus to others. Wearing a cloth face covering will help protect people around you.." - June 28th
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/about-face-coverings.html
So, are you lying or is the Miami County Health Board full of shit?
Spock gonna spock
posted by Dr Winston O'BoogieI woul guess more people are wearing masks now than in March-April. Yet there's a spike trending higher than at that time. I don't think masks are all that relevant to altering how COVID behaves. I think this thing is going to run its course regardless of our actions. Like everyone, I hope it's soon.
I think masks help, but certainly not as much as some posters wishfully think they do. If masks helped as much as some people believe they do, then reopening schools wouldn’t even be a debate.
posted by Dr Winston O'BoogieI woul guess more people are wearing masks now than in March-April. Yet there's a spike trending higher than at that time. I don't think masks are all that relevant to altering how COVID behaves. I think this thing is going to run its course regardless of our actions. Like everyone, I hope it's soon.
Zuh? Things were trending down, then a ton of people took "things can reopen" to mean that all is well. From personal viewing, mask wearing has gone down a lot locally. Going back up now, but it def went down over the past couple months.
posted by HereticZuh? Things were trending down, then a ton of people took "things can reopen" to mean that all is well. From personal viewing, mask wearing has gone down a lot locally. Going back up now, but it def went down over the past couple months.
+1
posted by HereticZuh? Things were trending down, then a ton of people took "things can reopen" to mean that all is well. From personal viewing, mask wearing has gone down a lot locally. Going back up now, but it def went down over the past couple months.
I'm sure masks count for something. I just don't believe they are the powerful force that can change the trajectory much. I'm all in favor of wearing them if it helps and I wear them wherever I am required.
posted by Dr Winston O'BoogieI'm sure masks count for something. I just don't believe they are the powerful force that can change the trajectory much. I'm all in favor of wearing them if it helps and I wear them wherever I am required.
I don’t understand the extreme hyperboles you guys speak in
“Powerful force” lol wtf we said masks work, THATS ALL. Powerful force? Fuck off
It can’t be zero percent they have to have some positive effect.. it’s not zero.. therefore I won’t complain about the mask it’s not a big deal..
posted by SportsAndLadyI don’t understand the extreme hyperboles you guys speak in
“Powerful force” lol wtf we said masks work, THATS ALL. Powerful force? Fuck off
America: Where all one has to do is strongly suggest to do one thing of, at most, minor inconvenience to most people to receive a laundry list of complaints, "well, actuallys", self-justifications for not doing it, dumpster diving the Net to find any sources that contradict the suggestion, sarcastically over-exaggerating the worth of it and so on.
The counter protesters just showed up at the statehouse to yell at the anti mask protesters.. it’s on abc live on Facebook it’s pretty funny
posted by geeblockIt can’t be zero percent they have to have some positive effect.. it’s not zero.. therefore I won’t complain about the mask it’s not a big deal..
It would be interesting to see how effective some homemade cloth mask is vs. an N95 mask. In fact, I think it's probably very important to know if a homemade cloth mask is providing sufficient protection.
Although surgical masks, which seem to be fairly available after a bit of a wait, must also be fairly effective or healthcare workers wouldn't use those, either.
I saw a number of masks for sale that had N95 filters that claimed to be easier to breathe in. Seen a few of those, and apparently the filter does nothing to the air you exhale, so the mask is useless.
posted by gutIt would be interesting to see how effective some homemade cloth mask is vs. an N95 mask. In fact, I think it's probably very important to know if a homemade cloth mask is providing sufficient protection.
Although surgical masks, which seem to be fairly available after a bit of a wait, must also be fairly effective or healthcare workers wouldn't use those, either.
I saw a number of masks for sale that had N95 filters that claimed to be easier to breathe in. Seen a few of those, and apparently the filter does nothing to the air you exhale, so the mask is useless.
I refuse to believe it’s zero percent useless. People spit when they talk or cough or sneeze as well.. just common sense says to me that it’s not zero percent effective.
posted by geeblockI refuse to believe it’s zero percent useless. People spit when they talk or cough or sneeze as well.. just common sense says to me that it’s not zero percent effective.
I was thinking more along the lines of if it was only 10-20% effective, then the false sense of security provided would probably contribute to MORE spread. In other words, if you didn't have a surgical mask then you should avoid the situation (like a protest or game).
It might be fine for the store or a brief encounter. But I wonder if cloth masks are really getting the job done at, say, a 3-hr backyard party.
I understand Fauci lying to prevent a shortage of masks for healthcare workers. But if cloth masks were good, then why didn't they recommend cloth masks and then restrict medical mask sales to hospitals?
Found this article. Says cloth masks help a lot. Blocks pretty much all of a cough or sneeze, which would carry a heavier load of virus even if the mask doesn't block all the virus when breathing.
And with the data on lack of asymptomatic spread, then I'd guess a mask would probably reduce everyone to that level.
posted by SportsAndLadyI don’t understand the extreme hyperboles you guys speak in
“Powerful force” lol wtf we said masks work, THATS ALL. Powerful force? Fuck off
Powerful force - that masks are going to somehow make the virus disappear in a shorter time than it would otherwise. I'm not against wearing one. I just think this virus will run through the population in its own way regardless of what we do.
posted by Dr Winston O'BoogieI just think this virus will run through the population in its own way regardless of what we do.
As with lockdowns, slowing the spread is not wasted because you need to manage your hospital case load.
If we have to delay elective surgeries (and some, such as heart procedures, really aren't all that "elective") then we're failing at managing the hospital load.
A bad flu season can stress the hospitals, as well. So that vaccine better be ready come November or we're going to have a real problem during flu season. That is, unless precautions for Covid severely limit the spread of the flu.
In some good news, the vaccine Cambridge is working on also promotes a T-cell response, which last much longer than antibodies (years, in some cases).
Question is if anyone has looked at T-cells in people who have recovered. Why would a vaccine based on the dead virus RNA produce T-cells when the actual virus wouldn't?
Very curious as it's the first time I've seen T-cells mentioned anywhere. Maybe because it wouldn't fit the pandemic porn agenda.
Yep, just find two studies that came out recently. Some people may even have at least partial immunity from T-cells from different coronavirus infections (SARS, even potentially just the common cold)
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/t-cells-found-covid-19-patients-bode-well-long-term-immunity
