Impressed by the Trump administration part II

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
7,259 posts 50 reps Joined Nov 2009
Tue, Feb 12, 2019 4:21 PM
posted by gut

Trump is a different animal.....but if the economy remains that strong, it would be unprecedented not to be re-elected.

Unprecedented is the key word here. I wouldn't be surprised if he's voted out despite a good economy. Because he's in an orbit all of his own lol

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Tue, Feb 12, 2019 5:12 PM

Enigma

 

BoatShoes Senior Member
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Wed, Feb 13, 2019 4:56 AM

Supply of treasuries reaches $22 Trillion - best economy we have had in years and radio silence from crowd that predicted inevitable economic collapse due to the national debt in 2012. Thank you President Trump! 

The greatest lesson of 2016 - you can enact any non-conservative policy you want as a Republican and "conservatives"/anti-Democrats will give it lip service and support you whole heartily to own the libs! 

If libs want a Green New Deal we just need to propose building muh wall in the form of Nuke plants, trees and wind turbines along the southern border and every Trump voter will wildly endorse and go on ranting about how "the left" is destroying America because of smashmortion, girls in the boy Scouts, single moms claiming Trump's child tax credits, etc. 

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
29,228 posts 321 reps Joined Apr 2010
Wed, Feb 13, 2019 8:37 AM
posted by BoatShoes

Supply of treasuries reaches $22 Trillion - best economy we have had in years and radio silence from crowd that predicted inevitable economic collapse due to the national debt in 2012. Thank you President Trump! 

The greatest lesson of 2016 - you can enact any non-conservative policy you want as a Republican and "conservatives"/anti-Democrats will give it lip service and support you whole heartily to own the libs! 

If libs want a Green New Deal we just need to propose building muh wall in the form of Nuke plants, trees and wind turbines along the southern border and every Trump voter will wildly endorse and go on ranting about how "the left" is destroying America because of smashmortion, girls in the boy Scouts, single moms claiming Trump's child tax credits, etc. 

I know you're not talking about this site, because the posters who have been critical of the debt are still critical of the debt...

Not to mention you take a 2-3 month hiatus form this site all the time after gut breaks your brain, so I am not sure how you would even know if anyone here is silent.  

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Wed, Feb 13, 2019 10:50 AM

 

U.S. Steel credits Trump in resuming work at Alabama plant ...

 

https://www.marketwatch.com › Industries › Metals/Mining › Associated Press

U.S. Steel Corp. will restart construction on an idled manufacturing facility in Alabama

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Thu, Feb 14, 2019 10:17 AM

(CNSNews.com) - The federal government collected a record $1,665,484,000,000 in individual income taxes in calendar year 2018, 

 

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/1665484000000-feds-collect-record-individual-income-taxes-calendar

 

 

Proving two things (AGAIN):

 

1 – Cutting rates spurs economic growth resulting in more tax revenue.

2 – We do not have a tax/revenue problem; we only have a SPENDING problem.

 

Spock Senior Member
5,271 posts 9 reps Joined Jul 2013
Thu, Feb 14, 2019 10:24 AM
posted by QuakerOats

(CNSNews.com) - The federal government collected a record $1,665,484,000,000 in individual income taxes in calendar year 2018, 

 

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/1665484000000-feds-collect-record-individual-income-taxes-calendar

 

 

Proving two things (AGAIN):

 

1 – Cutting rates spurs economic growth resulting in more tax revenue.

2 – We do not have a tax/revenue problem; we only have a SPENDING problem.

 

This

gut Senior Member
18,369 posts 114 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Feb 14, 2019 10:34 AM
posted by QuakerOats

(CNSNews.com) - The federal government collected a record $1,665,484,000,000 in individual income taxes in calendar year 2018,

Fantastic news.  If only it were an accurate reflection of reality.

You keep ignoring that overall tax revenues DECREASED, because of lower taxes on corporations.  Certainly we have a spending problem, but it's also true that taxes are not nearly high enough to support the levels of spending that even the Republicans have chosen.

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Thu, Feb 14, 2019 10:49 AM
posted by gut

but it's also true that taxes are not nearly high enough to support the levels of spending that even the Republicans have chosen.

Yep.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Thu, Feb 14, 2019 4:35 PM
posted by gut

Fantastic news.  If only it were an accurate reflection of reality.

You keep ignoring that overall tax revenues DECREASED, because of lower taxes on corporations.  Certainly we have a spending problem, but it's also true that taxes are not nearly high enough to support the levels of spending that even the Republicans have chosen.

 

Drain the swamp; bring in more disrupters.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Thu, Feb 14, 2019 4:35 PM

U.S.-manufactured goods exports rose 5.9 percent through the first 11 months of 2018 relative to the pace at the same timeframe in 2017. That suggests that manufacturing exports have continued to build on the rebound in international demand that started last year.

 

O-Trap Chief Shenanigans Officer
18,909 posts 140 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Feb 14, 2019 4:43 PM
posted by gut

Fantastic news.  If only it were an accurate reflection of reality.

You keep ignoring that overall tax revenues DECREASED, because of lower taxes on corporations.  Certainly we have a spending problem, but it's also true that taxes are not nearly high enough to support the levels of spending that even the Republicans have chosen.

Exactly.

The biggest difference between the two is that the Democrats are at least honest about not trying to be fiscally sane.
 

posted by QuakerOats

 

Drain the swamp; bring in more disrupters.

Or just cut spending.  Apparently, we can make executive orders and declare emergencies for whatever our little hearts can explain, even allegorically, as necessary.  Maybe declare the ridiculous deficit as an emergency.

 

BoatShoes Senior Member
5,991 posts 23 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Feb 14, 2019 5:15 PM
posted by like_that

I know you're not talking about this site, because the posters who have been critical of the debt are still critical of the debt...

Not to mention you take a 2-3 month hiatus form this site all the time after gut breaks your brain, so I am not sure how you would even know if anyone here is silent.  

I still check the site but don't feel inclined to comment much and I have kids, etc. - Trump has completely vindicated my views so not much to say but laugh at the complete lack of hysteria that was prevalent during the Obummer years.

jmog Senior Member
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Fri, Feb 15, 2019 7:44 AM
posted by gut

Fantastic news.  If only it were an accurate reflection of reality.

You keep ignoring that overall tax revenues DECREASED, because of lower taxes on corporations.  Certainly we have a spending problem, but it's also true that taxes are not nearly high enough to support the levels of spending that even the Republicans have chosen.

You are 100% wrong. Total tax revenue went up. Not by a ton, but they sure didn’t go down.

U.S. Tax Revenue by Year 

Here's a record of income for each fiscal year since 1960. There are links to more details about the revenue back to the FY 2006 budget. Tax receipts fell off during the recession but started setting new records by FY 2013.

 

gut Senior Member
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Fri, Feb 15, 2019 9:50 AM
posted by jmog

You are 100% wrong. Total tax revenue went up. Not by a ton, but they sure didn’t go down.

  • FY 2018 - $3.34 trillion, estimated.

LOL, you quoted an estimate as proof I was wrong.  I guess the WSJ article I read was using a different estimate, because it said overall revenues decreased about 0.4%.

O-Trap Chief Shenanigans Officer
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Fri, Feb 15, 2019 10:27 AM

Not to nitpick or pick sides, but yeah, shouldn't we probably wait until the tax numbers for 2018 are finalized before we announce that revenues went up, particularly with them being as close as they are there?

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Fri, Feb 15, 2019 10:58 AM
posted by O-Trap

Exactly.

The biggest difference between the two is that the Democrats are at least honest about not trying to be fiscally sane.
 

posted by QuakerOats

 

Drain the swamp; bring in more disrupters.

Or just cut spending.  Apparently, we can make executive orders and declare emergencies for whatever our little hearts can explain, even allegorically, as necessary.  Maybe declare the ridiculous deficit as an emergency.

 

 

 

Obviously.  Except we always get the same old shit – locked in on entitlements and very little discretionary blah blah blah …….I would love to lead the turnaround team in DC; we could knock out hundreds of billions without batting an eyelash; their heads would be spinning.  They have NO CLUE what it takes to be responsible.  And they still want your healthcare; your energy; your retirement. Sickening.

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
3,345 posts 35 reps Joined Oct 2010
Fri, Feb 15, 2019 12:31 PM
posted by QuakerOats

 

 

Obviously.  Except we always get the same old shit – locked in on entitlements and very little discretionary blah blah blah …….I would love to lead the turnaround team in DC; we could knock out hundreds of billions without batting an eyelash; their heads would be spinning.  They have NO CLUE what it takes to be responsible.  And they still want your healthcare; your energy; your retirement. Sickening.

Sounds like you are making a case for running for office.  

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Wed, Feb 20, 2019 10:42 AM

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-oil/oil-dips-below-2019-highs-as-surging-u-s-supply-counters-opec-cuts-idUSKCN1Q901T

 

 - Record shale output -

 

Change we can [really] believe in …

8,788 posts 20 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Feb 20, 2019 10:53 AM
posted by QuakerOats

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-oil/oil-dips-below-2019-highs-as-surging-u-s-supply-counters-opec-cuts-idUSKCN1Q901T

 

 - Record shale output -

 

Change we can [really] believe in …

Man, good to know Trump had nothing to do with this. 

I dug around the data site and going back over 12 years, shale production has increased every year, including every month over time. Shale even went up under the "evil marxist Obama administration" Gasp! 

So, it is more an efficiency/ the market figuring out how to be more effective than anything Trump of the Feds are doing. 

https://www.eia.gov/petroleum/drilling/ 

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