Impressed by the Trump administration part II

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Wed, Dec 20, 2017 3:47 PM

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Wed, Dec 20, 2017 3:48 PM

It's scary that the Dem leaders think your money belongs to the government and not the people. "Stealing money away from the government" ummm it isn't their money to begin with.  Also like how people acting like it's the end of the world. A lot of chicken littles running around after Net Neutrality and now this tax plan. Anyone else see Rosie O'Donnell go off the hinges on twitter?

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 20, 2017 3:49 PM

AT&T Inc., the phone carrier locked in a battle with the U.S. government over its Time Warner Inc. acquisition, lauded President Donald Trump and Congress for their tax-cut bill and said 200,000 U.S. workers will get a special $1,000 bonus to celebrate.

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Wed, Dec 20, 2017 3:49 PM
posted by iclfan2

It's scary that the Dem leaders think your money belongs to the government and not the people. "Stealing money away from the government" ummm it isn't their money to begin with.  Also like how people acting like it's the end of the world. A lot of chicken littles running around after Net Neutrality and now this tax plan. Anyone else see Rosie O'Donnell go off the hinges on twitter?

I saw she was basically trying to buy off two Senators. LOL.

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Wed, Dec 20, 2017 3:50 PM

Also, laugh out loud at other dumbass senators saying people are losing insurance, when it is people volunatrily not wanting insurane. No one is losing it. I can't believe we vote in these fucks on both sides to run the country.

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Wed, Dec 20, 2017 3:59 PM

I don't mind the lower taxes. I've been reserved about the tax cuts. I'm disappointed it is not too much of a reform. Half the stuff Trump talked about, didn't happen. I'm not a fan ofthe SALT reductions, as I live in MD, but Gov. Hogan is pretty set on keeping taxes low, espeically going into an election year. 

The fact the Senate version didn't cut the Grad School deductions as well as increased the medical deductions is nice. 

That said, with the cutting of taxes for higher incomes and the corporate rate, I look forward to an ever increasing stock market, more wage growth, and lower unemployment. I look forward to seeing if in fact we see more companies bringing back jobs now. 

This is what the R's and Trump wanted, so it is now fully their economy. Let's see how it plays out. 

 

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Wed, Dec 20, 2017 4:02 PM

Still have to cut spending by a significant amount, but a solid first step.  I like the corporate tax rate.  For all the so called socialists and bernie supporters in this country, they should be happy with the corporate tax rate.  They are always citing Sweden (despite the fact they are competitive with the US in terms of the economic freedom index) and now the US is right in line with Sweden when it comes to corporate tax rates. 

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Wed, Dec 20, 2017 4:03 PM
posted by justincredible

I saw she was basically trying to buy off two Senators. LOL.

I would LOL even more if Trump sent Sessions to prosecute her.  

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 20, 2017 4:07 PM
posted by like_that

Still have to cut spending by a significant amount, but a solid first step.  I like the corporate tax rate.  For all the so called socialists and bernie supporters in this country, they should be happy with the corporate tax rate.  They are always citing Sweden (despite the fact they are competitive with the US in terms of the economic freedom index) and now the US is right in line with Sweden when it comes to corporate tax rates. 

Definitely have to address spending.  I still cannot figure out how we increased spending by nearly $1 trillion for TARP back during the financial crisis as a one-time measure in '09-'10 ..........and yet if you look at annual outlays thereafter, it basically never went away.  WTF!!  Where in hell did the 'extra' $8 trillion go? 

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Wed, Dec 20, 2017 4:14 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

I don't mind the lower taxes. I've been reserved about the tax cuts. I'm disappointed it is not too much of a reform. Half the stuff Trump talked about, didn't happen. I'm not a fan ofthe SALT reductions, as I live in MD, but Gov. Hogan is pretty set on keeping taxes low, espeically going into an election year. 

I'm a fan of the SALT reductions. If you're going to live in a high tax area you should pay for it. If you're unhappy with your local taxes you should put pressure on your local politicians instead of relying on the fedgov to subsidize it.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 20, 2017 4:16 PM
posted by justincredible

I'm a fan of the SALT reductions. If you're going to live in a high tax area you should pay for it. If you're unhappy with your local taxes you should put pressure on your local politicians instead of relying on the fedgov to subsidize it.

BINGO.   And obviously you meant ,,,,,,,,,  instead of relying on federal taxpayers in red states to subsidize it"

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 20, 2017 4:26 PM

My employer did the same thing as AT&T with the $1,000 bonuses.  Pretty sweet. 

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Wed, Dec 20, 2017 4:26 PM
posted by QuakerOats

BINGO.   And obviously you meant ,,,,,,,,,  instead of relying on federal taxpayers in red states to subsidize it"

I meant what I said.

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Wed, Dec 20, 2017 4:27 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

My employer did the same thing as AT&T with the $1,000 bonuses.  Pretty sweet. 

Another handout to the rich, amirite?

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 20, 2017 4:28 PM
posted by justincredible

Another handout to the rich, amirite?

Ohhhh yeah. 

 

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 20, 2017 4:32 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

My employer did the same thing as AT&T with the $1,000 bonuses.  Pretty sweet. 

Congrats.  Buy some Nutanix   ........ NTNX

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 20, 2017 4:33 PM
posted by justincredible

I meant what I said.

ouch

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Wed, Dec 20, 2017 4:42 PM
posted by justincredible

I'm a fan of the SALT reductions. If you're going to live in a high tax area you should pay for it. If you're unhappy with your local taxes you should put pressure on your local politicians instead of relying on the fedgov to subsidize it.

Fair point. Sure, that's fine. Again, MD isn't that bad now. Way better than it used to be. 

 

8,788 posts 21 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Dec 20, 2017 4:43 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

My employer did the same thing as AT&T with the $1,000 bonuses.  Pretty sweet. 

That is great. I do hope more companies do that. 

gut Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 20, 2017 5:03 PM

I forget the number, but currently only @ 40% of people itemize, and after the new tax law I think that gets cut in half.

Outside of CA and NY, most people affected by SALT are already relatively high earners, and probably going to benefit from the changes to AMT (where SALT deductions don't apply).  Would have been nice to see the cap higher, at least equal to the standard deduction....which otherwise is going to leave most people only getting benefit of their mortgage interest and fairly nominal charitable contributions (I'd assume high earners with medical expenses over 10% AGI to deduct are pretty uncommon).

Comment I caught the other day was about the potential down the road to go after 401k money!!!!  I can't imagine that ever happening, but it's a scary thought....distributions are taxed at ordinary income, anyway, and I don't see how they'd confiscate any principal that would otherwise have been after-tax savings if never socked away into a 401k.

My other thought is the debate over a $500k cap on mortgages has probably opened the door for that to be passed at some point (I remember several years ago $400k was being floated around).  Just get rid of itemized all together and add 3 lines to AGI adjustments for mortgage interest, charity, and medical expenses...and then get rid of AMT.

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