Impressed by the Trump administration part II

gut Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 13, 2017 9:30 AM
posted by like_that

Isn't the seat up for election in 2 years?  If I am a betting man, that seat will go back to the GOP.  It shouldn't be too hard, but the GOP loves to have their "hold my beer" moments.

And Repubs should actually gain seats in the Senate in 2018 (at one point, could have been a threat for 60, but safe to say with Trump they won't get near that).  Don't know if the Repubs will be able to keep the House, probably but losing even a handful of seats would be enough to completely stall them like happens now in the Senate.

By the way, what the hell is up with election cycles that Dems get close to 60 seats back in 2008, and now Repubs could come close 10 years later?  Dems are defending 26(?) seats, including 2 independents, to 7....and predictions Repubs could gain 10 seats.  But I bet because of Trump, and the dismal Congressional performance, Repubs might be lucky to pick-up even 1 or 2 seats.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 13, 2017 10:19 AM
posted by like_that

Isn't the seat up for election in 2 years?  If I am a betting man, that seat will go back to the GOP.  It shouldn't be too hard, but the GOP loves to have their "hold my beer" moments.

 

Agree ..........any half decent repub will win

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Wed, Dec 13, 2017 10:38 AM
posted by like_that

Isn't the seat up for election in 2 years?  If I am a betting man, that seat will go back to the GOP.  It shouldn't be too hard, but the GOP loves to have their "hold my beer" moments.

He will easily lose. This election was about republicans not showing up (rightfully) for the piece of shit candidate these morons put up, nothing more. The people on twitter pretending like this has anything to do with the state of the democrats in any other place in America are jumping the gun.

Spock Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 13, 2017 11:09 AM

the pubs wanted Moore to lose.  THey want the dems to control congress, or as I should say, control Trump.  If Jones was smart he would vote as a conservative.  He could win again if he did.

 

With a split congress, Trump cant be off his rocker as much.

Heretic Son of the Sun
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Wed, Dec 13, 2017 12:09 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

He lost because he dated a 16 year old as a 35 year old.

and even as a GOP guy, I’m glad that creepy fuck lost. 

 

And even without the pedo stuff, he seemed to be running on a platform/belief system that was hilariously backwards and stone age. It really made me wonder how he got the R nomination in the primary. Does Luther Strange suck that much, or was Trump's support of him that fatal to his chances OR is Alabama so wacky that over-the-top evangelatical goofs like him seem normal?

Heretic Son of the Sun
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Wed, Dec 13, 2017 12:10 PM
posted by like_that

If the GOP from the beggining said "hey vote for Moore, we can't have a dem take that seat.  We will make sure Moore is replaced ASAP.  We don't GAF about Moore, we care about the seat." I think people would have voted for Moore.  Honesty would have gone a long way.    They didn't have the balls to do it.

Well, they said the first sentence of that; they just didn't have what it takes to say the other two.

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Wed, Dec 13, 2017 1:41 PM
posted by Heretic

Well, they said the first sentence of that; they just didn't have what it takes to say the other two.

Which you think the other two would be easier to say.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Fri, Dec 15, 2017 1:25 PM

NLRB reverses course on joint-employer issue

The National Labor Relations Board on Thursday reversed a joint-employer standard that had made it easier for employees to hold companies accountable for the behavior of contractors and franchisees. "Today's decision restores years of established law and brings back clarity for restaurants and small businesses across the country," the National Restaurant Association's Cicely Simpson said.

Reuters (12/14),  The New York Times (free-article access for SmartBrief readers) (12/14), 

 

 

Thank you, Don.

And thanks for all the other asinine regulations you already rolled back in less than one year:

 

The Washington Times (12/14, Boyer) reports that Trump said, “We blew our target out of the water. ... We beat our goal by a lot.” According to Trump, in the first 11 months of 2017, his Administration “canceled or delayed over 1,500 planned regulatory actions, more than any previous president by far.” He added, “The never-ending growth of red tape in America has come to a sudden, screeching and beautiful halt.”

        Bloomberg News (12/14, Sink, Levin) reports that Trump “cut a red ribbon between two stacks of paper, a smaller one marked 1960 and a larger one marked ‘Today,’” and said that “the federal regulatory code had grown from 20,000 pages to 185,000 pages during the period.” Business Insider (12/14, Kranz) reports that Trump sent a tweet after the event, which read, “Today, we gathered in the Roosevelt Room for one single reason: to CUT THE RED TAPE! For many decades, an ever-growing maze of regs, rules, and restrictions has cost our country trillions of dollars, millions of jobs, countless American factories, & devastated entire industries.” Townhall (12/14, Pavlich) reports that the White House said that “federal agencies are expected to cut $9.8 billion in unnecessary regulation costs in 2018.”

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Mon, Dec 18, 2017 10:34 AM

NEW YORK (Reuters) - The New York Federal Reserve on Friday raised its estimate of U.S. gross domestic product growth for the fourth quarter of 2017 closer to 4 percent, based on revisions of prior data that suggested stronger economic activities.

 

 

 

Change we can [really] believe in ....

gut Senior Member
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Mon, Dec 18, 2017 11:04 AM

we were told for 8 years that 2.5% growth was the new norm and the economy couldn't possibly do any better.....now we're near 4% and those same people want to give Obama the credit!

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Mon, Dec 18, 2017 11:45 AM

A syndicated columnist, Froma Harrop, wrote an opinion piece last week giving obama all the credit for the gains made in '17 across the board, and of course bashing Trump.  One has to sit their in utter amazement at the idiotic trash that these dumbasses keep putting in print.  

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Mon, Dec 18, 2017 11:48 AM

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/opinion/sunday/war-trump-islamic-state.html

 

 

Actual column in the NY Times giving credit to Trump for defeating ISIS, and slamming the media for ignoring the winning. Stunning.  

8,788 posts 21 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Dec 18, 2017 12:08 PM

Well, I just have a question, at what point does the new adminstration take ownership of the economy? Because, apparently, it depends on the party.

Is this Trump's economy or still Obama's? At what point did Obama's economy start and Bush's end? Just asking so we have some clarity here. 

I'm more in the camp that it takes about a full FY for a President to get their own policies in palce, therefore, the economy is a lagging indicator. For example, Clinton's economy was from 1994-2001, Bush's economy was from 2002-2009, Obama's from 2010-2017. 

I mean if you disagree with that, ok. But, at least stay the same. 

gut Senior Member
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Mon, Dec 18, 2017 12:15 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Is this Trump's economy or still Obama's? At what point did Obama's economy start and Bush's end? Just asking so we have some clarity here. 

Normally, it takes probably 18 months to start to see the effects of economic and fiscal policy.  However, I think this case has been unusual because of expectations of what Trump and a Repub Congress were going to accomplish.  Not to mention rolling back regulations.

But the bottom can fall out quickly if they don't get their act together.  I talked for years about the Obamaconomy "overhang", and putting an end to that agenda would unlock growth and investment.  I'd say the early returns are that I was 100% correct.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Mon, Dec 18, 2017 2:32 PM

Businesses have been in handcuffs for 8 years; you name the policy, legislation, or regulation, and it has all been anti-business, almost without question.  Trump has simply taken the handcuffs off, so now we know that we are not going to get pelted with new costly regulations every week, most of the worst ones are being repealed or have been, and taxes are being cut and reformed, not to mention the massive drag of obamaKare on business expenses.  The personal mandate is GONE in the new tax bill; literally 'yuge'.  Businesses saw this coming and have been reacting positively, and business optimism has peaked to multi-decade highs, which is a harbinger of even better things coming.  Now that tax reform appears to be a reality, you should see continued strengthening thru 2018.  In January, infrastructure will take center stage, that should be another positive.  

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Tue, Dec 19, 2017 4:24 PM

Damn good first year, especially given the non-stop media assault:

 

Something is happening in the final days of 2017. People are noticing that Donald Trump has gotten a lot done in his tumultuous first year in the White House.

Assume that tax reform passes and is signed into law. If in, say, 2014, a Republican, of either the conservative or moderate variety, predicted that in 2017 a newly-elected GOP president and Congress would —

  1. Cut corporate and individual taxes.
  2. Repeal the Obamacare individual mandate.
  3. Appoint a highly-respected conservative to the Supreme Court.
  4. Appoint a one-year record number of judges to the circuit courts.
  5. Get rid of reams of unnecessary regulations.
  6. Destroy ISIS.
  7. Approve pipeline projects and new oil drilling.                                                                                                                                                                                                                   --then a lot of Republicans would probably have cheered. Loudly.

 

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-amid-firestorms-trump-has-year-of-solid-policy-accomplishments-can-he-keep-going/article/2643791#!

Spock Senior Member
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Tue, Dec 19, 2017 4:39 PM

The dems and media are going bat shit crazy about this.  

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 20, 2017 3:23 PM

Wonderful tax bill passed; thank you! 

 

The winning rolls on ...

gut Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 20, 2017 3:34 PM

I was initially pretty skeptical of this, but overall I think the tax bill accomplishes a lot.  The cut in corporate rates being the main thing.  I think I end-up with about 1% lower taxes thanks to changes in AMT (I hope I'm reading that right).

I was worried what they were doing with child care credit, and SALT, along with elimination of the personal exemptions.  But I think the final bill addressed all that.

The ony real complaint if you lived in a high-tax state is the cap on SALT, and 25% reduction in mortgage interest (but unless you live in CA or NY, you probably don't have a $1M mortgage).  And the truth is those taxes ARE a subsidy to high tax states, although that's generally offset by those states receiving lower per capita transfer payments from the fed.

Will be interesting to see when the Dems are back in control and looking to raise taxes if they restore some of those deductions and exemptions.  I bet not....except their E & W coast constituents won't be happy.

 

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Wed, Dec 20, 2017 3:45 PM
posted by Spock

The dems and media are going bat shit crazy about this.  

It's absolutely hilarious to watch. I think I saw that Pelosi called it "brazen theft." From who, exactly, I'm not sure.

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