Stoops is the only logical choice based on athlete's post. I would welcome Stoops with open arms. I don't see any reason why he couldn't turn this program around, and wouldn't be surprised to see it turn around in a hurry. Only problem is that visor. Haha.

http://oklahoma.scout.com/2/920410.html

“That’s ridiculous, though, some confidant, huh," Stoops asked.
"that’s some guy making something up"

Generally when a coach denies these things in this manner, he's gone within a week.

Stoops would be an outstanding get, if true. Something ND hasn't gotten right with the last 3 coaches - someone with a proven resume in college football, and a proven winner. Stoops would be the best hire in a long time.

if ND gets stoops and 1/2 of his coordinators/assistants, that's a good deal.

Let's hope they don't get Kevin Wilson, and he goes back to NU.

anyone here an espn insider? there is a link on espn.com about Urban Meyer going to ND hinging on his wife

karen lotz wrote: anyone here an espn insider? there is a link on espn.com about Urban Meyer going to ND hinging on his wife

It's no new info. Just some writer in florida thinks it hinges on his wife. This is what they're basing their info on: http://www.floridatoday.com/article/20091117/COLUMNISTS0306/911170322/1065/sports/Is+Urban+Meyer+on+Notre+Dame+s+radar

In addition to other things we already know

Interesting...

athlete37 wrote:And in case I didn't make it clear earlier, the new coach is not Meyer.

I know you're saying it isn't Urban Meyer and I'm not doubting your source but everything is pure speculation at this point. Nothing would surprise me regarding the HC position at ND anymore, even Weis being retained.

I'm trusting athlete's info.

^^^^^I hope he's right.

^Me too!

He's not. Sorry, but Weis will be there for one more season.

dwccrew wrote: He's not. Sorry, but Weis will be there for one more season.

Regardless of any rumors that I've heard.....I think there's an extremely slim chance that Weis will be the head coach at ND next season.

killer_ewok wrote:

dwccrew wrote: He's not. Sorry, but Weis will be there for one more season.

Regardless of any rumors that I've heard.....I think there's an extremely slim chance that Weis will be the head coach at ND next season.

I think if Weis wins out (including bowl game), which is a remote chance, then he is still the ND HC. I just don't see them getting rid of him yet for some reason. But, I have been wrong before and this is a situation that I am semi-interested in, but don't care about the outcome as it doesn't effect me or my team at all.

dwccrew wrote:

killer_ewok wrote:

dwccrew wrote: He's not. Sorry, but Weis will be there for one more season.

Regardless of any rumors that I've heard.....I think there's an extremely slim chance that Weis will be the head coach at ND next season.

I think if Weis wins out (including bowl game), which is a remote chance, then he is still the ND HC. I just don't see them getting rid of him yet for some reason. But, I have been wrong before and this is a situation that I am semi-interested in, but don't care about the outcome as it doesn't effect me or my team at all.

Who's your team?

killer_ewok wrote:

dwccrew wrote: He's not. Sorry, but Weis will be there for one more season.

Regardless of any rumors that I've heard.....I think there's an extremely slim chance that Weis will be the head coach at ND next season.

Exactly. People are forgetting just how close Weis was to being fired after last season. Jack basically gave him one last chance to right the ship, and it just didn't happen. Discussions are going on behind closed doors imo, and with respect to the rest of the season and outside potential coaches, they are holding off any public comments. As athlete posted, more will probably come after the Stanford game.

You don't go 16-19 over three years at Notre Dame, especially not with the offense they have. True the offense has matured a lot, and I have untill this point had Charlie's back. I have no hard feelings for him, in my mind he should be noted as a very integral part of the success that the next coach will have. He started the turn around in recruiting philosophy at Notre Dame and we will never have to give credibility to idiots who say its not possible to bring in top ten recruits with the academic handicap.

krambman wrote:

Who's your team?

Do you not read any threads on here? Ohio State.

Joe Montana has it exactly correct.

http://www.sportingnews.com/college-football/article/2009-08-12/montana-notre-dame-should-lower-expectations
"You can't ask any football coach here to be constrained like that on the academic side and to have a consistent team," Montana said. "Unless you try to relax some of that for the athletic programs here, it's hard to consistently compete with the programs that have different standards."


Until the academic standards for football players at Notre Dame are reduced the football team will be what it is today. Under the circumstances Weis has done a great job. I agree with Montana.

BCSbunk wrote: Joe Montana has it exactly correct.

http://www.sportingnews.com/college-football/article/2009-08-12/montana-notre-dame-should-lower-expectations
"You can't ask any football coach here to be constrained like that on the academic side and to have a consistent team," Montana said. "Unless you try to relax some of that for the athletic programs here, it's hard to consistently compete with the programs that have different standards."


Until the academic standards for football players at Notre Dame are reduced the football team will be what it is today. Under the circumstances Weis has done a great job. I agree with Montana.

I don't buy this. Michigan (have been food in recent years) has high academic standards as does Stanford and USC. They seem to be able to field teams that are competitive.

Notre Dame's problem lies with coaching. Davie was terrible (doesn't coach anywhere), Willingham hasn't done squat since ND and when Weis goes, he'll fall into oblivion just like the other two mentioned. Once ND gets a good coach, the team will be good.

ND has talent on the team, they can get the talented players, they just don't have the right coaching.

BCSbunk wrote:
Until the academic standards for football players at Notre Dame are reduced the football team will be what it is today. Under the circumstances Weis has done a great job. I agree with Montana.

That would be a complete joke IMO. Its true what Montana says, but it would be a sad day if Notre Dame ever relaxes ACADEMIC standards just so they can win a few more games

What is it about Notre Dame's academic standards that are so strict or different from other schools? I know the reputation, but don't know exactly what things exclude them from some of the top recruits (any examples would be helpful).

Also, have the standards not always been this way? Or, why was Notre Dame able to be elite for so long but had mixed levels of success in the last 30 years?

Completely agree with dwccrew's last post.

dwccrew wrote:

BCSbunk wrote: Joe Montana has it exactly correct.

http://www.sportingnews.com/college-football/article/2009-08-12/montana-notre-dame-should-lower-expectations
"You can't ask any football coach here to be constrained like that on the academic side and to have a consistent team," Montana said. "Unless you try to relax some of that for the athletic programs here, it's hard to consistently compete with the programs that have different standards."


Until the academic standards for football players at Notre Dame are reduced the football team will be what it is today. Under the circumstances Weis has done a great job. I agree with Montana.

I don't buy this. Michigan (have been food in recent years) has high academic standards as does Stanford and USC. They seem to be able to field teams that are competitive.

Notre Dame's problem lies with coaching. Davie was terrible (doesn't coach anywhere), Willingham hasn't done squat since ND and when Weis goes, he'll fall into oblivion just like the other two mentioned. Once ND gets a good coach, the team will be good.

ND has talent on the team, they can get the talented players, they just don't have the right coaching.

It is not only academic standards. USC and Michigan are both state schools and the demands are not that of Notre Dame.

There are other regulations to note or standards.

Single sex dorms with rules and regulations NOT at state schools the top of the list is parietals.

The promise of a social life is not what it is at a state school.

I believe it does not matter what coach they bring in until they relax these regulations and standards they will never be the top program in the country.

Now I DO NOT propose they relax these standards for the sake of sports and am not suggesting they should. I am merely stating that they will not ever return to their glory days unless they do.

Time will tell though and I will glad to admit I was wrong when Notre Dame is ranked top 10 most years and challenging for national titles on a fairly frequent basis.