Dr Winston O'Boogie

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On Dec 6, 2018:

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Lance Armstrong - I just don't get it" at 12:49 pm

  • Well I get all of your points about his throwing his close associates and teammates under the bus.  A horrible thing to do for sure.  I just don't understand why the guy is such a villan in the public's eye after paying an incredibly hefty price for his crimes.  I really think it is because of his personality.  Like I said, he is not a likable guy.  But there are other pro athletes who have done horrible things and they able to be "forgivin" by the public.  Case in point - Michael Vick.  

     

    I don't mean to sound like a Lance Armstrong apologist.  I really don't care for the guy at all.  But his accomplishments were incredible.  He didn't cheat to win.  He cheated to get to the baseline.  If I had won like he did, I can see myself becoming obsessed with protecting my achievements and doing some very stupid things as a result.  

     

     

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Progressives, part 3..." at 12:43 pm
  • posted by QuakerOats

     

     

    I feel great.  I was referencing the illness of liberalism and its apparent bizarre side effects.

    You don't sound like you feel great.  You are always making these grandiose statements like "God save the republic".  Makes it sound like we're all in peril.  You sound nervous.  

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Progressives, part 3..." at 12:41 pm
  • posted by Spock

    Wait....you cant post a story about how crazy some elected official is because it comes from a news source you dont like?  Since that is the case you think that the story is BS?

    You can post whatever you like.  And no, I don't dispute the story happened.  My point is that with 350 million of us in this country, there will always be incidents of people doing crazy things, whether in the name of politics, religion, race, whatever.  Unfortunately we live in an age where it is easy to project every one of those people's actions to everyone.  We then read or watch these stories and start to believe they are part of some trend or movement or whatever the case and that they actually represent something significant.  

     

    Most of our country functions just fine.  Differing views are what makes us great.  Extremists or nut jobs are not representative of the bulk of us.  Pasting these stories and making that suggestion is what I disagree with.  

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie created thread "Lance Armstrong - I just don't get it" at 11:02 am

  • I saw an article about Lance Armstrong this morning.  Apparently he was interviewed on the Today show.  There wasn't anything particularly interesting a bout it, but it got me thinking. 

     

    Okay, so this guy doped through his entire career including during his 7 Tour de France wins.  And he is definitely is not the most likable person in the world.  I know all that is the case.  But the more I've learned about that sport and especially the era in which he rode, virtually every top rider doped.  That's not hearsay.  Lot's of those riders have come clean about it.  It is clear that, at least at that time, it was a drug-fueled sport.  Doping was necessary to even the playing field. 

     

    So I get that what Lance did was wrong.  The doping sure.  But the lying to everyone and then the efforts to silence those who tried to out him were the most egregious things.  His efforts to discredit people though were not directed at a whole bunch of people.  They were primarily directed at Frankie Andreu, the wife of one of his former teammates (who has acknowledged that he doped too).  Frankie and Lance obviously hate each other and have a history of fighting.  Ugly and messy as that is, it's really just a feud between two people - an egomaniac (Armstrong) and an attention-seeking victim (Andreu).  

     

    That's really the crux of things.  Armstrong is not someone I would want to pal around with.  But I honestly think his titanic fall and long-term disgrace are more a result of his unlikability rather than anything he actually did.  His punishment seems extraordinarily disproportionate to his crime.  

     

    I guess I just can't believe this guy has the monster status he does all these years later.  Am I missing something.  

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Death of Journalist Jamal Khashoggi" at 10:32 am
  • posted by Spock

    I think I might be the only one that doesnt care about this?  Its terrible that the guy got taken out but for the US media to stand on this guys grave to make a political point is stupid.  1,000 US citizens get murdered in Chicago a year and dont hear about that.  This guy was not a citizen.  Not sure why he gets all this attention.  Our government takes out people all over the world.  We shouldnt throw stones in our glass house.

    You're always talking about "our government takes people out all over the world" or "our government meddles in elections all the time",.  I'm not denying those things may happen.  I have no idea.  But I am very curious as to where you get your insight.  Are you former CIA or something.  Otherwise, just saying something doesn't make it so. 

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Progressives, part 3..." at 10:28 am
  • posted by QuakerOats

     

    https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/12/05/councilman-links-hamburgers-to-wildfires-says-los-angeles-should-mandate-vegan-options/

     

    How do we cure this mental illness?

     

    Your mental illness?  Well, first you stop combing the conservative websites for random stories of crazy individuals that have been promoted as part of some societal trend instead of the isolated story of one of the 350 million of us.  Second, you realize that leadership is much more than pointing out economic indicators simultaneously occurring and hanging onto them as the one and only barometer of the leaders actions.  Third, you quit seeing things in such a negative light.  We aren't on the precipice of disaster.  We're not at some crossroads that where our future is in peril  We are a huge society filled with good and bad people,  We succeed based upon our collective input.  

     

    Do those things and I think you will feel better.  

On Dec 5, 2018:

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "GOP leaders trying to oust another GOP leader because of his religious beliefs ..." at 04:32 pm

  • Probably the Deep State at work.  

     

    Living in central Alabama, the reasoning being used to oust him sounds very familiar.  I hear thinks about Muslims frequently.  They are always baseless and without any evidence to back it up.  I is like when the Irish came and some people feared they would take over and make the US a Catholic state beholden to Rome.  

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Death of Journalist Jamal Khashoggi" at 04:21 pm
  • posted by fish82

    For better or worse, we're in bed with the kingdom, and there isn't a reasonable or feasible way to extricate ourselves. 

    Why do you say this?  I don' think it is true.  I believe we can extricate ourselves from business with Saudi Arabia.  Continuing only funds a state that is backward as can be and with many citizens who hate the US to a point where they are willing to die over it.  A horrible country to consider and ally.  

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Death of Journalist Jamal Khashoggi" at 11:21 am

  • As Trump has said, nothing will be done about it.  If anyone questions how Saudi Arabia feels about the US, just look at the roster of the 9/11 hijackers.  15 of the 19 came from the kingdom.  Saudi Arabia is not our friend and is not a country we should support or do business with.  That may cost us some in our economy, but I believe we could work without them in the long run if we chose.  Instead of selling them military equipment, we need to ensure our plan to take on the Saudis is always up to date and trained for.  This prince is a snake masqurading as a reformer.  

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Impressed by the Trump administration part II" at 10:43 am
  • posted by justincredible

    I'm currently reading Fear: Trump in the White House. Interesting book so far, I'm about halfway through. Anyone else read it yet?

    I read it.  I thought it was good for awhile, but once I finished, I was a kind of "meh" toward it.  I'm no fan of Trump.  But I think any president or leader can be made to look bad by quoting conversations that - even if they happened as worded - take place in a larger context that a book cannot capture.  

     

    I'm a little cynical about Bob Woodword.  I have a lot of respect for what he did with Watergate.  But he seems a little bit like a guy that has been trying to recapture that magic ever since.  Trump's an obvious opportunity for a lot of reasons.  

     

    The book didn't really do anything to affect my opinion of Trump either way.

     

    Let me know your opinion when you are finished.  

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Progressives, part 3..." at 10:36 am

  • Part of the problem with the climate change debate is both sides simplify something that is not simple by its nature.  I can't even begin to understand all of the factors that affect the climate.  Obviously it changes over time - goes from hot to cold and vice versa.  I have no idea if man made pollution has any contributing affect to what seems like a natural warming cycle that is underway.  

    My point is that this is a complicated scientific concept.  The loud mouths on both sides are all talking about something they know nothing about.  

     

    For argument's sake, let's assume everyone is in favor of reducing polluting emissions.  If not for the benefit of reduced climate change, for the simple fact that it's healthier for us to live with cleaner air and water.  That's all good an fine.  But have any of you visited China?  I have multiple times and had the opportunity to travel extensively in country.  At the time, I was in the steelmaking  business.  The pollution belching out of every manufacturing plant and steel mill I saw was overwhelming.  It made me think of this analogy: If an airplane with the the most polite passengers with one exception is traviline on a three hour trip and that one exception emits gaseous hot farts the entire trip, on arrival, the plane will smell like a fart tube and everyone will have had to live in it even if they contributed nothing to the cause.  China is the gaseous hot farter.  

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Urban Meyer to step down after Rose Bowl" at 10:06 am
  • posted by vball10set

    after throwing both Meyer and Smith under the bus, they both prolly told him to stay the fuck away

    I agree with this.  I wished Gene Smith had done the same as the president and stayed away as well. I think he was equally culpable for what ended up coming down on Urban.  I'm not a fan of his.  

     

    I also and excited about Ryan Day.  Obviously he is recognized within the "industry" and very highly regarded.  I trust that reputation very much.  Being able to have a capable coach who is already in the program step in takes away a lot of the "fog of transition"  If Urban stay connected with Ohio State in some way, I hope he respects Day's position as coach and advises only when asked.  I'm pretty sure he will act in this way.

     

    I assume the players like and respect Day.  Does anyone  have any insight on this particular issue?

On Dec 4, 2018:

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Urban Meyer to step down after Rose Bowl" at 12:10 pm
  • posted by Ironman92

     

    What part of this is him not agreeing how that mess was handled by OSU and his 4 game suspension?

    No one knows but him.  I hope that debacle doesn't cloud his memories of his time here.  It was a total joke and he unfortunately got caught up in it.  The whole thing was a result of a part of our society that is going terribly wrong.  It had nothing to do with him in my opinion.  Of course it is hard to feel too sorry for a guy pulling down >$5 million/year.  

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Progressives, part 3..." at 11:08 am
  • posted by CenterBHSFan

     

    This is nothing to ignore IMO. When reporters get threatened with death and are stopped from walking down the sidewalk, there is something very wrong. We don't live in a country where this is tolerated behavior. Just like the klan doesn't control Birmingham, Alabama anymore, nor should antifa rule any city on the west coast. This crap happens in California (we don't have SnapCrap in Ohio yet do we?) too so it's not like it's just Washington and Oregon. And the more it happens the more common it will become. I think it's a mistake to downplay it. 

    I agree with all of your points.  I'm just saying that the environment out there is not like that shown on television in reality.  These jokers are bad - no doubt.  But the reporting suggests that they are doing and controlling way more than the reality.  Portland, Seattle, SF, etc are not under siege.  That's all I'm saying.  

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Urban Meyer to step down after Rose Bowl" at 11:05 am
  • posted by like_that

    Was this a serious question?

    It was serious.  I wasn't suggesting that I thought he deserved it.  I think Ryan Day seems like a great choice and he's already in place.  I was just interested to see if anyone thought Fickell was even in the consideration set.  I know his one year at the help produced a mediocre record.  But I don't think that was a fair test.  All sorts of stuff was happening then that created a lot of chaos.  His time at Cincinnati shows that he obviously knows how to coach.

     

    Again, I am not suggesting Fickell should have been the next coach.  I'm just looking for message board discussion.  Ryan Day is a great choice as far as I'm concerned.  

     

    Although it is kind of surprising that Zach Smith didn't get a closer look. ;-) 

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Urban Meyer to step down after Rose Bowl" at 08:33 am

  • Ryan Day has a big time opportunity. He seems equal to the task. 

     

    Anyone surprised that Luke Fickell didn’t get the nod?