Dr Winston O'Boogie

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On Oct 14, 2019:

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Progressives, part 3..." at 09:16 am
  • posted by wkfan

    May be so...but I believe that we got it right in the last 90 years or so and evolved to a journalistic philosophy that included a much more non-partisan, fact based reporting of the events of the day.  Unfortunately, the media has abandoned that philosophy and now spins the news to whatever lean they have.

    Many politicians state that a free media is essential in our country...and I agree with that.  Unfortunately, there is no free media today as none of them report the news that is 'free' from opinion.

     

    I definitely agree with your last paragraph. I think the only way is to use the abundance of sources and piece together, as much as is possible, some semblance of the truth.  That is admittedly difficult. 

On Oct 13, 2019:

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Progressives, part 3..." at 09:05 pm
  • posted by wkfan

    Totally disagree with your point of view here.

    My Father was a 50+ year newspaper reporter and editor who retired in 1977.  He worked for local newspapers as well as 'conglomerates' that owned several newspapers where his by-lines appeared in several cities.  He railed against what he called 'yellow journalism'...which is what is prevalent today.  His point of view, and those of the industry was that a newspaper was to report the news, while opinions were for the Op/Ed pages only.  IMO, newspapers are not nearly as bad as the television media where the political lean has gone to full tilt to one side or the other with absolutely no room to report what is not in keeping with the networks politics.  It doesn't matter if you are talking about CNN, Fox, PMSNBC or any of them....you get no factual and unbiased news reporting from any of them.

    I don't doubt your father's experience or perspective. 

     

    But you can go back to the country's founding or the Civil War era or reconstruction or the Depression. Newspapers, which were the main news media channels, were not only blatantly biased in their news reporting, but at times downright viscious. Not in editorials, but in news stories .

On Oct 11, 2019:

On Oct 10, 2019:

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Favorite Halloween/ Horror film?" at 02:57 pm
  • posted by Spock

    Freddy Kruger is my favorite as a character

     

    The SHining is #1

    Freddy needs to go see a dermatologist.  

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Progressives, part 3..." at 02:50 pm
  • posted by gut

    I disagree.  Opinions used to be reserved for the Opinion/Editorial section.  Today, the news is opinion and the opinions are straight-up partisan propaganda.  "Just the facts" doesn't appear to exist in most reporters' purview.  Definitely not true 25 years ago.

    And the actual quality/mastery of most Opinion has declined precipitously.  A good persuasion piece honestly addresses the best arguments on the other side.  You'll rarely see that today.  Most Opinion pieces today are built around strawmen and non-sequitors.  The NYT, at least its editorials, is practically a tabloid now.

     

    This isn't accurate.  Going back to founding days of the country, politics has always been part of what's reported.  During the 1700s nad 1800s, many major newspapers were more resembling of what we call tabloids.  Every city had multiple papers that reported from different political perspectives.  Usually the publisher's politics are what the paper pursued.  The idea that there was every this time of objective news journalism is just not so.  The difference today is that news media is so prevelant and unavoidable, so we all think about it a lot more.  

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Progressives, part 3..." at 12:40 pm
  • posted by gut

    The difference today is the blindly partisan nature of almost all media.  Forget cable news - the traditional media outlets are no longer objective, and really not even journalists anymore.

    I think the public comments Trump made are impeachable (nevermind the long list of other comments and tweets that, taken together, probably amount to impeachable).  But it's disgusting to watch conservative outlets defend Trump, while the liberal outlets ignore/defend Biden.

    Trump is exposing hypocrisy and corruption, alright.  Just probably not in the way he and his supporters expected.

    I agree with your comments except that the media is partisan "today".  Throughout history, the media has always been partisan in some way.  The idea that once upon a time the news media was objective is a myth.  It's produced by people who are all opinionated.  The difference today is we have to hear about it 24/7.  Both sides complaining about the bias of the other.  

     

     

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Progressives, part 3..." at 11:44 am
  • posted by QuakerOats

    “Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky told reporters Thursday his controversial July call with President Trump involved no bribe, blackmail or quid pro quo, as impeachment-minded Democrats claim.”

     

    LOL – the dems star witness says there was no wrongdoing.  But let’s impeach anyhow because we at least hoped for a crime.  Good God.  It’s almost Stalin-esque --- guilty till you prove yourself innocent (and without due process to defend yourself).  The Soviets are sitting in our House of Representatives.

     

    Honestly, what do you expect the Ukranian guy to say?  He knows which side of his bread is buttered.  I'm not in favor of impeachment either, but I wouldn't call this guy's assertion particularly helpful.

     

    There are no "Soviets" in the congress.  There are people in there you disagree with, fine.  But that' not new.  It's how our system has always operated.  The difference today is the 24 hour news and commentary cycle.  It immerses people into the ugly mechanisms of things.  If you turn that shit off and ignore it, the world will go on quite fine and you will safe all of our disgust (feigned or real).  

On Oct 9, 2019:

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Progressives, part 3..." at 04:31 pm
  • posted by gut

    It's interesting how Biden keeps talking about Trump/Ukraine....but can't seem to come up with a good explanation for Hunter's business dealings in China and Ukraine.  I wonder why that is?

    Because there isn't one.  

On Oct 7, 2019:

On Oct 3, 2019:

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Progressives, part 3..." at 11:27 am
  • posted by QuakerOats

     

    We have a treaty with Ukraine that calls for cooperation in rooting out corruption.  Trump is fulfilling his duties following through with those requirements.  A former sitting vice-president used US taxpayer money to bribe a foreign government for the purpose of having them stop an investigation into the Vice-President’s son’s corrupt business.  That is exactly the type of corruption that needs to be exposed and dealt with ……..whether or not that former Vice-President is running for office again.  Obviously it is uncomfortable for the left to have their criminality exposed, but Trump has an obligation to US taxpayers/citizens.

     "Trump has a obligation to US taxpayers"?  Here's where you lose credibility. 

     

    I agree that Biden had a conflict of interest.  The prosecutor he and others wanted fired was looking at corruption and maybe that would have entailed this gas company.  What in God's name Hunter Biden was doing on the board of that company is beyond me.  And let's just say hypothetically that the prosecutor was never intending to investigate the company where Biden Jr was a board member.  Just having a conflict of interest like that should have been so obvious to Joe Biden.  He completely put himself into position be in this mess.

     

    But....

     

    Let's not pretend Trump was pushing the Ukrainians to investigate Biden out of some obligation to the US taxpayers.  He wanted to take down a rival - pure and simple.  In a phone call between the leader of the Ukraine and the president of the United States, there is a huge power imbalance.  Trump clearly is using this to go after an specific individual.  Just like Biden, he put himself into this mess.

     

    Partisans like you - left and right - who never admit that their side has any fault are what is wrong with he current political debate.  It's why everything is so hostile.  You spoke of being "intoxicated" by the DC media machine.  Can't you see that this is exactly as your come across - completely intoxicated by the right wing media complex?

On Oct 2, 2019:

On Oct 1, 2019:

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Uranium One / Clinton Foundation / obama DoJ corruption" at 04:39 pm

  • This entire impeachment saga is a microcosm of the Swamp.  First of all, why in the hell do people like Hunter Biden get opportunities like sitting on an obscure foreign company board?  Because they're favored children on American politicians.  I just read that Hunter was once appointed to the board of Amtrak by George W. Bush.  The guy has no life experiences that are even remotely relevant to transportation or foreign natural gas.  Yet there he is.  This story has gone on since the beginning of time.  Billy Carter, Neil Bush, Chelsea Clinton, etc  Look at Trump's kids today.  His son-in-law is a middle east point person for our country.  It happens over and over.

     

    By letting Hunter take the Ukrainian role, Biden put himself in the position to be questioned the way Trump is questioning him.  Even if the entire world wanted this Ukranian prosecutor gone, Biden had a serious conflict of interest and should never have been involved in any of it if he didn't want to get implicated the way he's been.  

     

    So did Trump push the Ukranians to go after Biden?  Sure.  What politician in his situation with the information he had wouldn't?  The blowback he's gotten is probably more than he expected, but I don't think he really cares.  He loves the chaos that now reigns.  And in the end, I expect this thing will ultimately take Biden down, not Trump.  

    These guys are all part of the Swamp. 

On Sep 30, 2019:

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Progressives, part 3..." at 04:19 pm
  • posted by CenterBHSFan

    Well, pot meet kettle because you only reply and comment on QO's posts the vast, vast majority of the time. 
    #SelfPwn

    I comment on a lot of things on here.  

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Progressives, part 3..." at 01:53 pm
  • posted by QuakerOats

     

     

    The whistleblower’s own attorney says 60 Minutes misinterpreted his key letter.

     

    The left-wing media remains insufferable.

    In the mid 1990s, G Gordon Liddy had a radio talk show.  You would have loved him as your posts sound very similar to his opinions.  One of the segments of his show was called "Review of and comment upon the news" where he would literally read newspaper articles and then make comments bout them.  Most of his articles were from right-wing news sources like The Washington Times or National Review or similar.  Basically he would find stories that outraged him, read them in their entirety and then make a comment like "sick liberal funny business...sheesh!"  That was as deep as is got.  

     

    Your posts have been reminding me of something I couldn't come up with it until today.  But now I've remembered it.  You are this site's version of G Gordon Liddy.  Your messages have the same breadth and depth as his did.  I highly recommend you read his book Will as i am guessing you will see a lot of your world view therein.

     

    Crazy interweb posters....jeeesh.  

On Sep 27, 2019:

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Progressives, part 3..." at 10:44 am
  • posted by QuakerOats

     

     

    This is staggering; they are literally attempting another coup in order to cover up their first coup attempt.

     

    Jesus Christ.

    You are batshit crazy.  

On Sep 26, 2019:

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Progressives, part 3..." at 02:04 pm

  • I know it's not realistic, but if people would quit paying so much attention to these assclowns in DC, this kind of nonsense would slow down.  The impeachment garbage is 95% about getting on TV for the individual member.  

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Progressives, part 3..." at 12:48 pm
  • posted by Spock

     

    As for Clinton....he was impeached for lying to Congress.  Clinton didnt break the law.

    He was impeached for lying to the court in the Paula Jones case, not for lying to Congress.  

On Sep 25, 2019:

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Progressives, part 3..." at 04:43 pm
  • posted by QuakerOats

     

     

    LOL ……….the call was fine; talk to us about obama’s VP using OUR money to bribe a foreign government to back off of an investigation in order to save his son and his family.  Please explain that criminality, as well as why our current president should not be inquiring as to how all that came to pass.

     

    For the second political scandal in a row you are confusing who first committed the actual crimes.  Fool me once, shame on ……

    As I said earlier, I have no problem with the call.  However if Obama had made a similar call, you know damn well you'd be crying from the mountaintops about it.  That was my point.  

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Progressives, part 3..." at 03:07 pm
  • posted by QuakerOats

     

     

     

    And let me add:  If a sitting vice-president used American taxpayers’ money to effectively bribe a foreign nation to halt a foreign investigation for the personal benefit of that sitting vice-president, then you are God damn right the current president of the United States damn well better ask about it to find out what the hell was going on; it is his duty to do so ---- the criminality of that vice-president should be prosecuted.

    If Obama had made a call like the one Trump made to Ukraine, you would be so far out in front leading the "Impeach to Save the Republic and the People" campaign.