like_that;1707552 wrote:I take that as her saying women vote stupidly, not women shouldn't be able to vote. Regardless that has nothing to do with the gap in pay myth. I gave you a source from time magazine, and they are citing a study done by economists. I think I will take a group of economists' word over feminist rabble rousers.

Commander of Awesome;1707561 wrote:Like I stated earlier, dont have time (at work) to dig into that...

Commander of Awesome;1707561 wrote:Like I stated earlier, dont have time (at work) to dig into that. I will and get back to you with my findings.

sleeper;1707556 wrote:So conservative women want to restrict votes of other women? LOL. Again, you are being manipulated by the media because you are ignorant. I agree with Coulter though, if women weren't allowed to vote we wouldn't see another Democrat in office. Facts are facts.

Commander of Awesome;1707566 wrote:Not being manipulated, that's what she said. Women on avg are more educated than males, more likely to graduate with a degree, etc.... Thankfully women are allowed to vote. The more educated voters, the better IMO.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/03/06/womens-college-enrollment-gains-leave-men-behind/
http://www.aei.org/publication/staggering-college-degree-gap-favoring-women-who-have-earned-9-million-more-college-degrees-than-men-since-1982/

More women have more degrees yet still earn less. That doesn't correlate with fairness IMO, but I haven't dug into like_that's other article yet.

sleeper;1707567 wrote:A degree in sociology is not the same as a degree in economics. The reality is, women CHOSE freely to study less lucrative career paths, women CHOSE to take off work to raise their children, and women CHOSE to work less hours,

like_that;1707460 wrote:http://time.com/3222543/5-feminist-myths-that-will-not-die/

MYTH 5: Women earn 77 cents for every dollar a man earns—for doing the same work.
FACTS: No matter how many times this wage gap claim is decisively refuted by economists, it always comes back. The bottom line: the 23-cent gender pay gap is simply the difference between the average earnings of all men and women working full-time. It does not account for differences in occupations, positions, education, job tenure or hours worked per week. When such relevant factors are considered, the wage gap narrows to the point of vanishing.

Wage gap activists say women with identical backgrounds and jobs as men still earn less. But they always fail to take into account critical variables. Activist groups like the National Organization for Women have a fallback position: that women’s education and career choices are not truly free—they are driven by powerful sexist stereotypes. In this view, women’s tendency to retreat from the workplace to raise children or to enter fields like early childhood education and psychology, rather than better paying professions like petroleum engineering, is evidence of continued social coercion. Here is the problem: American women are among the best informed and most self-determining human beings in the world. To say that they are manipulated into their life choices by forces beyond their control is divorced from reality and demeaning, to boot.




I will even throw in a huffington post article for you http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christina-hoff-sommers/wage-gap_b_2073804.html

Take that and then sprinkle in the fact women tend to be more passive than men (think negotiating), Title IX raping men, and the fact more women are in college than men. Yeah, they can take their war on women QQing somewhere else. Shove it up their asses preferably. I have worked at three different professional organizations at this point, and I have seen plenty of women in leadership positions, some of them with a lot of power. I don't think I have ever encountered any woman who was getting paid less because she is simply a female. Most of us are employed on this site (except tiernan), does anyone have experience where women in their office are getting paid less, because they are women? I am willing to bet they are in the minority now. Hell, from my experience, the women play favorites with other women in both school and work. It's time to move on from this "war. " It is 2015, women are not busy in the kitchen praying Billie Jean will defeat Bobby Riggs.

As for categorizing transexuals, lesbians, homosexuals, etc... It just looks like a classic liberal tactic of divide and conquer.

like_that;1707570 wrote:And that pretty much is the conclusion of this 92 page research done by economists.

http://www.consad.com/content/reports/Gender%20Wage%20Gap%20Final%20Report.pdf

Commander of Awesome;1707574 wrote:Just read thought the time article on my lunch, its the author of both article. Who works for the conservative think tank. In other words, trash.

like_that;1707576 wrote:A research study by economists is trash? LMAO, delusional.

We are only tolerant of your views if you agree with us. #liberallogic.

queencitybuckeye;1707417 wrote:The "Glory" performance was powerful. A couple of millionaires bringing tears to the eyes of other millionaires, one being consoled by a billionaire.

Commander of Awesome;1707578 wrote:No the "study" even said they DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH DATA. How is that hard to comprehend? It's the study that you cited. A little googling around about this report points out all kinds of issues with it. Here's an example:

"Missing, too, is a huge whopper that could cause the wage gap. Due to a lack of data, the researchers could not include in their analysis whether women are rejected from jobs they apply for right from the get go because they have children, even if they had resumes identical to men—an all too prevalent reality that undercuts the theory that the &#8220ay gap doesn’t exist.”

Commander of Awesome;1707578 wrote:
"Missing, too, is a huge whopper that could cause the wage gap. Due to a lack of data, the researchers could not include in their analysis whether women are rejected from jobs they apply for right from the get go because they have children, even if they had resumes identical to men—an all too prevalent reality that undercuts the theory that the &#8220ay gap doesn’t exist.”

sleeper;1707583 wrote:Yeah just throw the whole study out because the researchers do their due diligence and try to be upfront about potential flaws in their own research. They aren't trying to push an agenda but rather display their findings to the public while noting like a professional that you cannot fully make sweeping conclusions based on one data point; wow such trash. Again, grow up.

like_that;1707585 wrote:Sounds very similar to climate change. Funny how the argument is only used when it fits the agenda.

The National Org for Women and the Association of University Women seem to acknowledge there is no real discrimination. If that and research done by economists (from the department of labor under the Obama administration) is not enough for you then I don't know what to tell you. Go to your female bosses that you are sorry for their struggles. Be sure to let little billy know that it is ok when his wrestling scholarship is cut, because we are ending this warm on women LOL.

Commander of Awesome;1707591 wrote:Climate change is a fact, even recognized by the right..

I knew you'd bring title ix into this as well. Surprised it took you this long honestly. Title IX and wage pay gap are different, and not related. Title IX sucks. lol at using Glen Gary Glen Ross. Reps.

Commander of Awesome;1707589 wrote:How about this from our own department of labor?

http://blog.dol.gov/2012/06/07/myth-busting-the-pay-gap/

MYTH: There is no such thing as the gender pay gap – legitimate differences between men and women cause the gap in pay, not discrimination.
REALITY: Decades of research shows a gender gap in pay even after factors like the kind of work performed and qualifications (education and experience) are taken into account. These studies consistently conclude that discrimination is the best explanation of the remaining difference in pay. Economists generally attribute about 40% of the pay gap to discrimination – making about 60% explained by differences between workers or their jobs. However, even the “explained” differences between men and women might be more complicated. For example: If high school girls are discouraged from taking the math and science classes that lead to high-paying STEM jobs, shouldn’t we in some way count that as a lost equal earnings opportunity? As one commentator put it recently, “I don’t think that simply saying we have 9 cents of discrimination and then 14 cents of life choices is very satisfying.” In other words, no matter how you slice the data, pay discrimination is a real and persistent problem that continues to shortchange American women and their families.

Belly35;1707527 wrote:I lost my eye in a combat situation. Stupid asshole like you have no respect.
... My spelling and grammar has nothing to do with my intelligence ... Hey fuck head. "can't " stupid fuck

DeyDurkie5;1707599 wrote:I'm not the one lumping every black person into "they are all dumb" categories. You are the "stupid fuck" that can't see every race has their dumb people. But then again you've shown nothing but a racial hatred towards black people since you've been commenting.

So while you might think I have zero respect for you, you've shown nothing on this site that leads me to respect you. I'd say I'm more respectful and mature than you are and I'm half your age. I don't blindly hate a race because of their color. I show people respect who deserve it and tend to continue to do so.

As for the eye, it was a joke. Calm down and learn to take one.

thavoice;1707601 wrote:Except for members of the military.

DeyDurkie5;1707603 wrote:"I show respect for the people that deserve it"

If you defend our country and don't use your uniform just for free shit, then I'll gladly show respect.

thavoice;1707606 wrote:Fair enough.
Agreed. There are many who just want to reap those extra benefits.....