Again, in REALITY, the business world, no one gives a fuck about what gender you are. Think you are paid less because you are a woman? Sue the company. There's a reason women rarely win these lawsuits and that's because its a myth; when companies are sued for this, they merely present REALITY and win the case easily.

Does discrimination happen? Sure. I'm not ignorant. However, anyone who buys into the wage gap is a moron and clearly out for political gain only.

Commander of Awesome;1707444 wrote:Some numbers first. According to a breakdown of median weekly salaries from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the gender pay gap is consistent across fields. Disparities between men and women’s earnings exists in all but seven of the Bureau’s 600 listed occupations. Men who drive buses, prepare meals in cafeterias, run companies and watch your kids, on average, make more money than women who do the exact same work.
A quantitative analysis from the Government Accountability Office also found that the pay gap persisted between men and women even after factoring in part-time work and women working fewer hours or taking time off after they have children or when a family member falls ill. So Arquette is right about the pay gap being very, very real and badly in need of correcting.
But take a closer look at the gap and you’ll find that the numbers often used as shorthand — women earning 77 cents on the dollar — isn’t reflective of the much starker wage gap faced by women of color. Black women who work full-time year round, on average, earn 64 cents on the dollar, and Latina women earn just 54 cents.

According to research from the Williams Institute, lesbian workers earn less than both straight and gay men. They also lack legal protection from being arbitrarily fired, harassed on the job and discriminated against in 29 states. Trans women also experience rampant pay discrimination. And in a majority of states, they are also denied the basic legal protections to ensure they can find and keep a job at all. (And these aren’t neat or stable categories. A trans woman of color is forced to contend with multiple forms of discrimination that limit her earnings.)



Interesting and something to be aware of IMO.

http://time.com/3222543/5-feminist-myths-that-will-not-die/

MYTH 5: Women earn 77 cents for every dollar a man earns—for doing the same work.
FACTS: No matter how many times this wage gap claim is decisively refuted by economists, it always comes back. The bottom line: the 23-cent gender pay gap is simply the difference between the average earnings of all men and women working full-time. It does not account for differences in occupations, positions, education, job tenure or hours worked per week. When such relevant factors are considered, the wage gap narrows to the point of vanishing.

Wage gap activists say women with identical backgrounds and jobs as men still earn less. But they always fail to take into account critical variables. Activist groups like the National Organization for Women have a fallback position: that women’s education and career choices are not truly free—they are driven by powerful sexist stereotypes. In this view, women’s tendency to retreat from the workplace to raise children or to enter fields like early childhood education and psychology, rather than better paying professions like petroleum engineering, is evidence of continued social coercion. Here is the problem: American women are among the best informed and most self-determining human beings in the world. To say that they are manipulated into their life choices by forces beyond their control is divorced from reality and demeaning, to boot.




I will even throw in a huffington post article for you http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christina-hoff-sommers/wage-gap_b_2073804.html

Take that and then sprinkle in the fact women tend to be more passive than men (think negotiating), Title IX raping men, and the fact more women are in college than men. Yeah, they can take their war on women QQing somewhere else. Shove it up their asses preferably. I have worked at three different professional organizations at this point, and I have seen plenty of women in leadership positions, some of them with a lot of power. I don't think I have ever encountered any woman who was getting paid less because she is simply a female. Most of us are employed on this site (except tiernan), does anyone have experience where women in their office are getting paid less, because they are women? I am willing to bet they are in the minority now. Hell, from my experience, the women play favorites with other women in both school and work. It's time to move on from this "war. " It is 2015, women are not busy in the kitchen praying Billie Jean will defeat Bobby Riggs.

As for categorizing transexuals, lesbians, homosexuals, etc... It just looks like a classic liberal tactic of divide and conquer.

We just need to end women's sufferage...right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1J8uX9_-Bg

Belly35;1707398 wrote:I said "that because there is more Blacks today and more stupid Blacks than ever before... get an education mofo"
Then I thought to myself.. No activist Blacks ever talks about the facts that more Blacks are killed by Blacks everyday ... Seem that Intellectual Blacks wants to blame everyone else for their plight but the real cause and effect

Ironic you are calling out "blacks for being stupid" when you cant type or use proper grammar to save your eye.

Yea, comparing all women's wages to all men's wages and using that as a comparison is hilarious. And your moronic president perpetuating the myth makes it even dumber. Good Post Like_That.

Havent watched that show in years as it was always so fucking boring. I dont mind music award shows as I will tune in for the performances and then usually tune away when they actually do awards.

Saw a clip on facebook a few minutes ago about a part of a speech. Forget the guy's and dont know what movie he was in, but he used to be on Law and Order, and his speech was basically tellingpeople to CALL your parents. Dont text, email, just CALL and TALK...

thavoice;1707486 wrote:Havent watched that show in years as it was always so fucking boring. I dont mind music award shows as I will tune in for the performances and then usually tune away when they actually do awards.

Saw a clip on facebook a few minutes ago about a part of a speech. Forget the guy's and dont know what movie he was in, but he used to be on Law and Order, and his speech was basically tellingpeople to CALL your parents. Dont text, email, just CALL and TALK...

JK Simmons, and his movie was Whiplash. It's excellent. He is also a huge Ohio State fan.

Fab4Runner;1707493 wrote:JK Simmons, and his movie was Whiplash. It's excellent. He is also a huge Ohio State fan.

Dont think I even heard of that movie but anyways....it was a good clip of his speech and one that more people need to take to heart.

I liked the counter programming last night. Act of Valor and The real story of Chris Kyle/American Sniper.

thavoice;1707494 wrote:Dont think I even heard of that movie but anyways....it was a good clip of his speech and one that more people need to take to heart.

I liked the counter programming last night. Act of Valor and The real story of Chris Kyle/American Sniper.

I never really watch the Oscars. I watched Full Metal Jacket instead.

Fab4Runner;1707497 wrote:I never really watch the Oscars. I watched Full Metal Jacket instead.

Yeah, just seems like such a bore. People bitch about it every year yet still tune in for it apparently.

like_that;1707460 wrote:http://time.com/3222543/5-feminist-myths-that-will-not-die/

MYTH 5: Women earn 77 cents for every dollar a man earns—for doing the same work.
FACTS: No matter how many times this wage gap claim is decisively refuted by economists, it always comes back. The bottom line: the 23-cent gender pay gap is simply the difference between the average earnings of all men and women working full-time. It does not account for differences in occupations, positions, education, job tenure or hours worked per week. When such relevant factors are considered, the wage gap narrows to the point of vanishing.

Wage gap activists say women with identical backgrounds and jobs as men still earn less. But they always fail to take into account critical variables. Activist groups like the National Organization for Women have a fallback position: that women’s education and career choices are not truly free—they are driven by powerful sexist stereotypes. In this view, women’s tendency to retreat from the workplace to raise children or to enter fields like early childhood education and psychology, rather than better paying professions like petroleum engineering, is evidence of continued social coercion. Here is the problem: American women are among the best informed and most self-determining human beings in the world. To say that they are manipulated into their life choices by forces beyond their control is divorced from reality and demeaning, to boot.




I will even throw in a huffington post article for you http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christina-hoff-sommers/wage-gap_b_2073804.html

Take that and then sprinkle in the fact women tend to be more passive than men (think negotiating), Title IX raping men, and the fact more women are in college than men. Yeah, they can take their war on women QQing somewhere else. Shove it up their asses preferably. I have worked at three different professional organizations at this point, and I have seen plenty of women in leadership positions, some of them with a lot of power. I don't think I have ever encountered any woman who was getting paid less because she is simply a female. Most of us are employed on this site (except tiernan), does anyone have experience where women in their office are getting paid less, because they are women? I am willing to bet they are in the minority now. Hell, from my experience, the women play favorites with other women in both school and work. It's time to move on from this "war. " It is 2015, women are not busy in the kitchen praying Billie Jean will defeat Bobby Riggs.

As for categorizing transexuals, lesbians, homosexuals, etc... It just looks like a classic liberal tactic of divide and conquer.

I need to read these and do some research, unlike morons like pick6 I can admit when I'm wrong. However, right off the bat the person who wrote the Huffington Post piece works at the American Enterprise Institute, which is a highly biased conservative think tank. That hurts the credibility right away. Would be like taking Phillip Morris's science regarding smoking as unbiased fact.

iclfan2;1707466 wrote:Yea, comparing all women's wages to all men's wages and using that as a comparison is hilarious. And your moronic president perpetuating the myth makes it even dumber. Good Post Like_That.

I am sure they were referring to Hillary Clinton:

Hillary Clinton Paid Women .72 for every $1 paid to men...

Analysis of senate office...

HitsRus;1707410 wrote:^^^(at Zwick)Off the top of my head, I would say that this falls within the scope and purpose of this site. The "Oscars" is an award show for film accomplishments, and unfortunately some are using it for a political platform..

Doesn't matter. Either way neither were solicited the majority of the time.

Commander of Awesome;1707505 wrote:I need to read these and do some research, unlike morons like pick6 I can admit when I'm wrong. However, right off the bat the person who wrote the Huffington Post piece works at the American Enterprise Institute, which is a highly biased conservative think tank. That hurts the credibility right away. Would be like taking Phillip Morris's science regarding smoking as unbiased fact.

Ah, right, because conservatives are all about restricting pay for women. Grow up.

DeyDurkie5;1707464 wrote:Ironic you are calling out "blacks for being stupid" when you cant type or use proper grammar to save your eye.

I lost my eye in a combat situation. Stupid asshole like you have no respect.
... My spelling and grammar has nothing to do with my intelligence ... Hey fuck head. "can't " stupid fuck

So........an actress that makes what? $10 million dollars for one film is just mad that John Travolta makes $20 million for the same work. I have a suggestion. Have all the actors put all their money in the pot and divide it up to those actors on the low end of the pay scale. What those people want is socialism........let it start with them.

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1707523 wrote:Doesn't matter. Either way neither were solicited the majority of the time.

When I come on this site, I and everyone else expects to hear plenty of opinions, and in fact, we debate them all the time. When I watch the Super Bowl, I am there to watch football, not to listen to star players give their opinions about politics. ....Huge difference, and the Oscars are poorer for it.

Hammerin'Hank;1707534 wrote:So........an actress that makes what? $10 million dollars for one film is just mad that John Travolta makes $20 million for the same work. I have a suggestion. Have all the actors put all their money in the pot and divide it up to those actors on the low end of the pay scale. What those people want is socialism........let it start with them.

Or an even better idea, have the actors donate any amount of money earned about the median wage to charity. That would shut them up real quick.

HitsRus;1707535 wrote:When I come on this site, I and everyone else expects to hear plenty of opinions, and in fact, we debate them all the time. When I watch the Super Bowl, I am there to watch football, not to listen to star players give their opinions about politics. ....Huge difference, and the Oscars are poorer for it.

What's funny is the group think. I wonder how many of them actually believe their bullshit and are just saying it to look like they give a shit. You can tell there's generally not a lot of original thought behind what they're spewing.

JK Simmons went to Worthington HS back in the day and went by his middle name "Kim" ...yeah I'd go by JK now too. He's married and has kids but back then you woulda suspected him going a different route so to speak...not that's there anything wrong woth that.

sleeper;1707526 wrote:Ah, right, because conservatives are all about restricting pay for women. Grow up.

See Ann Coulter, a conservative talking head , who said women shouldn't be able to vote.


[INDENT] "If we took away women's right to vote, we'd never have to worry about another Democrat president. It's kind of a pipe dream, it's a personal fantasy of mine, but I don't think it's going to happen. And it is a good way of making the point that women are voting so stupidly, at least single women."


[/INDENT]Thanks for playing.

There goes Coulter's VIP seats at Lilith Faire

Commander of Awesome;1707549 wrote:See Ann Coulter, a conservative talking head , who said women shouldn't be able to vote.


[INDENT] "If we took away women's right to vote, we'd never have to worry about another Democrat president. It's kind of a pipe dream, it's a personal fantasy of mine, but I don't think it's going to happen. And it is a good way of making the point that women are voting so stupidly, at least single women."


[/INDENT]Thanks for playing.

I take that as her saying women vote stupidly, not women shouldn't be able to vote. Regardless that has nothing to do with the gap in pay myth. I gave you a source from time magazine, and they are citing a study done by economists. I think I will take a group of economists' word over feminist rabble rousers.

...did you really just use the term "rabble rousers"? Sure they weren't "hooligans" or "trouble makers"...better hop in your '64 Rambler and get down to the Malt Shoppe before they burn it down.

Commander of Awesome;1707549 wrote:See Ann Coulter, a conservative talking head , who said women shouldn't be able to vote.

[INDENT] "If we took away women's right to vote, we'd never have to worry about another Democrat president. It's kind of a pipe dream, it's a personal fantasy of mine, but I don't think it's going to happen. And it is a good way of making the point that women are voting so stupidly, at least single women."


[/INDENT]
Thanks for playing.

So conservative women want to restrict votes of other women? LOL. Again, you are being manipulated by the media because you are ignorant. I agree with Coulter though, if women weren't allowed to vote we wouldn't see another Democrat in office. Facts are facts.