like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 18, 2014 1:33pm
Bengals have until midnight to match the offer on Hawkins.
shook_17
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Mar 18, 2014 2:26pm
I thought it was 4pm? Ive heard confilicting reports.like_that;1592507 wrote:Bengals have until midnight to match the offer on Hawkins.
I heard the Browns brought in Aaron Berry the CB from the gets. He was really good at Pitt but has had plenty of injuries since being in the NFL.
mucalum49
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Mar 18, 2014 3:16pm
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 16m
Bengals not matching Browns offer sheet for Wr Andrew Hawkins. He's a Brown.
Bengals not matching Browns offer sheet for Wr Andrew Hawkins. He's a Brown.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 18, 2014 3:36pm
Whoohoo. Gotta love cheap ass mike brown
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Mar 18, 2014 4:27pm
Not as cheap as one would think. $5.8M the first year... but it's also encouraging that the Browns signed him to a 4 year contract. Obviously, they have seen things they like in Hawkins. In that regard, shopping for team's 4th WR seems like a sneaky good idea! lolSportsAndLady;1592637 wrote:Whoohoo. Gotta love cheap ass mike brown
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Mar 18, 2014 6:09pm
I'm liking our FA haul so far. Interested to see what else we will do to fill the holes.
I agree with the above poster, I'm really liking Sammy Watkins at the 4 and taking our chances with Hoyer for the year, with a QB taken later in the draft.
I agree with the above poster, I'm really liking Sammy Watkins at the 4 and taking our chances with Hoyer for the year, with a QB taken later in the draft.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Mar 18, 2014 8:08pm
I'd still take TB if thats who they want regardless of his "bad" pro day. I've seen him play and know what he can do. I like Sammy, but feel we are pretty set with passing targets with the addition of Hawkins and the continued maturation of Gordon and Cameron.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
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Mar 18, 2014 8:16pm
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1592388 wrote:You know, after reading what Greg Cosell said about Watkins, I think I'm pretty settled on wanting him. In hindsight, we're all disappointed that we didn't grab Julio when we had an opportunity, so let's make it happen now.
NFL Films guru Greg Cosell stated on the Ross Tucker Podcast that he believes Clemson's Sammy Watkins is the best wide receiver prospect since A.J. Green and Julio Jones came out for the 2011 draft.
"If you just look at the skill set," Cosell said of Watkins, "I think you're dealing with a guy who's an explosive mover. He's a powerful mover. There's velocity to his movement. He can run over people. He's got straight-line speed. He's laterally quick. He's got run-after-the-catch strength." Watkins is also considered a pro-ready route runner. He's a lead-pipe lock to be drafted in the top-seven picks.
Careful... The resident internet gang tried to crucify me for saying we should draft Watkins.
se-alum
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Mar 18, 2014 8:21pm
Yes, I couldn't care less about Pro Days, the film shows Bridgewater is a damn good QB in a pro-style offense. I want Bortles or TB if they are there, if they aren't I want Mack or Watkins, in that order.thavoice;1592373 wrote:TB had a horrible pro day. If JM has a good one and is selected at the top, would you all want Bridgewater
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 18, 2014 8:28pm
Don't worry, I can disagree with Dr. Kno it all without him getting defensive/butthurt and immediately going into douche mode.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1592743 wrote:Careful... The resident internet gang tried to crucify me for saying we should draft Watkins.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
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Mar 18, 2014 8:38pm
I don't.like_that;1592754 wrote:Don't worry
like_that
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Mar 18, 2014 8:40pm
Good for you.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1592762 wrote:I don't.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Mar 18, 2014 9:00pm
From most of the tape I've seen on Bridgewater, i'm not impressed. His highlight reel is full of throws to wide open receivers or receivers with great RAC. Now I won't lie and say nothing impressed me, as their were a few good throws in there, but the Level of Competition makes me hesitant.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Mar 18, 2014 9:04pm
Wide open because he checked to the correct play? One of the reasons I like Bridgewater and Bortles is the fact that they had complete control over their offenses in college, trusted enough to check in and out of plays. That's not something that's done by a lot of QB's.HighRoller74;1592779 wrote:From most of the tape I've seen on Bridgewater, i'm not impressed. His highlight reel is full of throws to wide open receivers or receivers with great RAC. Now I won't lie and say nothing impressed me, as their were a few good throws in there, but the Level of Competition makes me hesitant.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Mar 18, 2014 9:06pm
Who would you prefer out of the top 3 QBs? If TB's level of competition makes you hesitant, then I'd figure you feel the same about Bortles.HighRoller74;1592779 wrote:From most of the tape I've seen on Bridgewater, i'm not impressed. His highlight reel is full of throws to wide open receivers or receivers with great RAC. Now I won't lie and say nothing impressed me, as their were a few good throws in there, but the Level of Competition makes me hesitant.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Mar 18, 2014 9:06pm
Watch the Florida Louisville bowl game from 2013. The way he fit some throws in and the anticipation/ reads he was making against a top 3 defense that year. He completely shredded them. TB is a very smart qb. He basically ran Louisville's entire offense. So you can basically credit TB for making the right calls and audibles to have his receivers wide openHighRoller74;1592779 wrote:From most of the tape I've seen on Bridgewater, i'm not impressed. His highlight reel is full of throws to wide open receivers or receivers with great RAC. Now I won't lie and say nothing impressed me, as their were a few good throws in there, but the Level of Competition makes me hesitant.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Mar 18, 2014 9:07pm
Best me to it lolse-alum;1592784 wrote:Wide open because he checked to the correct play? One of the reasons I like Bridgewater and Bortles is the fact that they had complete control over their offenses in college, trusted enough to check in and out of plays. That's not something that's done by a lot of QB's.
DeyDurkie5
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Mar 18, 2014 9:14pm
Weeden ran his own offense.
Crimson streak
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Mar 18, 2014 9:28pm
Weeden definitely didn't run Oklahoma st's offense. That is all Gundy. If weeden had any leeway at all it was to check a read. Completely different than audibling in a pro style offenseDeyDurkie5;1592795 wrote:Weeden ran his own offense.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Mar 18, 2014 10:20pm
Possibly, but alot of times was his first read, and the guy was 5-10 yards open.se-alum;1592784 wrote:Wide open because he checked to the correct play? One of the reasons I like Bridgewater and Bortles is the fact that they had complete control over their offenses in college, trusted enough to check in and out of plays. That's not something that's done by a lot of QB's.
Like Durkie said, a lot of Bust QB's ran the offense, and could audible at the line.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Mar 18, 2014 10:20pm
Definitely wouldn't call Louisville's Offense "Pro Style" It has some pro aspects, but a LOT of spread offense principals mixed in, and some zone read.Crimson streak;1592805 wrote:Weeden definitely didn't run Oklahoma st's offense. That is all Gundy. If weeden had any leeway at all it was to check a read. Completely different than audibling in a pro style offense
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Mar 18, 2014 10:23pm
None of the above.Pick6;1592786 wrote:Who would you prefer out of the top 3 QBs? If TB's level of competition makes you hesitant, then I'd figure you feel the same about Bortles.
I've stated numerous times, I'm personally not high on any of them. But if the FO loves one of the guys and takes them, i'm not gonna go IQQY and start bitching. They know more than I do lol.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Mar 18, 2014 10:25pm
At the same time, I'd argue that Florida really didn't want to play that game, but there were some great throws. Doesn't discount his numbers entirely, but these programs just don't get up for these BCS games. Looks at Alabama every time they aren't in the Championship game.Crimson streak;1592788 wrote:Watch the Florida Louisville bowl game from 2013. The way he fit some throws in and the anticipation/ reads he was making against a top 3 defense that year. He completely shredded them. TB is a very smart qb. He basically ran Louisville's entire offense. So you can basically credit TB for making the right calls and audibles to have his receivers wide open
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Mar 19, 2014 10:07am
That is alot of $$$ for someone like him.Dr. KnOiTaLL;1592661 wrote:Not as cheap as one would think. $5.8M the first year... but it's also encouraging that the Browns signed him to a 4 year contract. Obviously, they have seen things they like in Hawkins. In that regard, shopping for team's 4th WR seems like a sneaky good idea! lol
Cincy sportstalk last night was saying he was like their 6th option they would go to on offense.
Browns frontloaded the deal but that is OK, they have money they have to spend.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 19, 2014 10:10am
Sounds like Cincy sports radio is just as full of shit as cleveland sports radio. LOL at Dalton throwing to six options.thavoice;1592978 wrote:That is alot of $$$ for someone like him.
Cincy sportstalk last night was saying he was like their 6th option they would go to on offense.
Browns frontloaded the deal but that is OK, they have money they have to spend.