Con_Alma;1213665 wrote:There's no way you can determine in the individual if long term effect has or as not been reach. You can only mad you decisions of evaluation by their actions and the actions are ones of having the opposite effect that yo are desiring.

Gosh you must have been tired when you wrote the above statement . You usually express better than I do, but the above statement is confusing. If you have a person addicted to selfishness, greed and bigotry you should continue to the effort even if the abuser seemingly does not want to be helped. You keep presenting him with the destructive effects of addiction to these evils and the hope of his future redemption in the hope of a future epiphany.

i would get rid of isidore

he seems mentally retarded and it appears that he posts on here without supervision a lot

also hes an arrogant ass that thinks he is better than others and can redeem them like some sort of god

ESAD isidore

jjhacker;1213800 wrote:i would get rid of isidore

he seems mentally retarded and it appears that he posts on here without supervision a lot

also hes an arrogant ass that thinks he is better than others and can redeem them like some sort of god

ESAD isidore

it is isadore, not isidore. There is always hope you can be redeemed as a human being. Good luck.

isadore;1213834 wrote:it is isadore, not isidore. There is always hope you can be redeemed as a human being. Good luck.

Really rude thing to say isydor. What would jesus say? There is still time to save your soul little guy.

Commander of Awesome;1213841 wrote:Really rude thing to say isydor. What would jesus say? There is still time to save your soul little guy.

gosh hardly rude at all big guy, optimistic wish for his and your future.

isadore;1213834 wrote:it is isadore, not isidore. There is always hope you can be redeemed as a human being. Good luck.

i like isidore better im redeeming your name by making it better

ill let you in on a secret theres no hope for me to be redeemed ill let you try to figure out why

good luck is-a-door

for even you there is hope of redemption
rise above selfishness, greed and bigotry and be a better human being.

isadore;1213849 wrote:gosh hardly rude at all big guy, optimistic wish for his and your future.

Gosh a fuddies, What ego you possess. One that was modest would realize how rude that statement was. I pray for your salvation isidored

isadore;1213854 wrote:for even you there is hope of redemption
rise above selfishness, greed and bigotry and be a better human being.

im being a better human being by trolling someone who condescends others you are againt selfishness green and bigoted but you show so much pride which as you know is a deadly sin

i have not been selfish greedy or bigoted not sure where you got that

isadore;1213786 wrote:Gosh you must have been tired when you wrote the above statement . You usually express better than I do, but the above statement is confusing. If you have a person addicted to selfishness, greed and bigotry you should continue to the effort even if the abuser seemingly does not want to be helped. You keep presenting him with the destructive effects of addiction to these evils and the hope of his future redemption in the hope of a future epiphany.

Hope won't change anyone and in this case isn't lending to an environment which may inspire such change. Hope in this case is having the opposite effect.

can we get rid of this virus on this site first and foremost. Ohh and GFY

Commander of Awesome;1213857 wrote:Gosh a fuddies, What ego you possess. One that was modest would realize how rude that statement was. I pray for your salvation isidored

I provide optimism, truth and the offer of redemption for all including you, big guy.

jjhacker;1213858 wrote:im being a better human being by trolling someone who condescends others you are againt selfishness green and bigoted but you show so much pride which as you know is a deadly sin

i have not been selfish greedy or bigoted not sure where you got that

we all make typoes in our messages, me very much included, but sometimes those errors can diminish our message. , this is a comma.
Your expressed opinions show those greed, selfishness and bigotry plus a violent personality. But you can still be redeemed.

mcburg93;1213935 wrote:can we get rid of this virus on this site first and foremost. Ohh and GFY

the offer of redemption is still available to you.

Con_Alma;1213924 wrote:Hope won't change anyone and in this case isn't lending to an environment which may inspire such change. Hope in this case is having the opposite effect.

I have taken action to fulfil my hope. I point out examples of their greed, selfishness and bigotry. I then offer them redemption. As can be expected individuals with such long held vices will find them difficult to abandon. They will resist harshly in the beginning.

isadore;1213982 wrote:I have taken action to fulfil my hope. I point out examples of their greed, selfishness and bigotry. I then offer them redemption. As can be expected individuals with such long held vices will find them difficult to abandon. They will resist harshly in the beginning.

Your actions have indeed been very clear. There's no evidence to believe that "vices" will ever be abandoned. In fact, they have the opposite effect as evidence by the posts and threads created directly addressing such actions.

Con_Alma;1213985 wrote:Your actions have indeed been very clear. There's no evidence to believe that "vices" will ever be abandoned. In fact, they have the opposite effect as evidence by the posts and threads created directly addressing such actions.

Just look at the example of bigotry, the first people fighting for black rights in the south met the harshest of statements and actions. The same was true of the fight for gay rights, the first people fighting it met vitrol and violence. In the long run attitudes were changed, as it will in the future with these folks. They can be redeemed.

isadore;1214008 wrote:Just look at the example of bigotry, the first people fighting for black rights in the south met the harshest of statements and actions. The same was true of the fight for gay rights, the first people fighting it met vitrol and violence. In the long run attitudes were changed, as it will in the future with these folks. They can be redeemed.

The change only comes from their decisions. Your "hope" is having the opposite effect on this site and to those who participate.

jjhacker;1213858 wrote:im being a better human being by trolling someone who condescends others you are againt selfishness green and bigoted but you show so much pride which as you know is a deadly sin

i have not been selfish greedy or bigoted not sure where you got that

There's still time for you to repent and correct your atrocities. I'll forgive you little one, but you have to ask for it and repair the damage your sins have created.

Con_Alma;1214009 wrote:The change only comes from their decisions. Your "hope" is having the opposite effect on this site and to those who participate.

Movement to better the human condition regularly meet with seemingly intransigent opposition. Only "summer soldier and the sunshine patriot" abandon the effort when met with such opposition.

Commander of Awesome;1214011 wrote:There's still time for you to repent and correct your atrocities. I'll forgive you little one, but you have to ask for it and repair the damage your sins have created.

you poor misbegotten person. your mind has been so warped by the vices of greed, selfishness and bigotry that you can not yet recognize the good. But still there is hope you can find the light.

isadore;1214016 wrote:Movement to better the human condition regularly meet with seemingly intransigent opposition. Only "summer soldier and the sunshine patriot" abandon the effort when met with such opposition.

It's not an opposition. It's your actions, your "hope" having the opposite effect.

isadore;1213979 wrote:we all make typoes in our messages, me very much included, but sometimes those errors can diminish our message. , this is a comma.
Your expressed opinions show those greed, selfishness and bigotry plus a violent personality. But you can still be redeemed.

First, there is an irony even you can appreciate with your misspelling of "typos."

Second, I find it odd to point out errors in punctuation, given your chronic lack of capitalization. I'm not at all saying the lack of capitalization, so please don't misunderstand. I'm merely saying that the result of it, in light of you pointing at someone's typographical errors, seems hypocritical.

Third, maybe you've read more than I have, but I don't see greed in his post. Where has he shown greed? Selfishness ... eh ... I can't really see that either. Bigotry seems absurdly silly.

As for a violent personality, that makes a little more sense, given his militant replies, but that could also be perceived as just an intense personality.

Redemption is necessary for all of us, but I strongly suggest that we have enough that needs redeemed already to be chasing those vices which, by either luck or grace, have not manifest themselves in our lives.

Con_Alma;1214023 wrote:It's not an opposition. It's your actions, your "hope" having the opposite effect.

it is an opposition,

isadore;1214027 wrote:it is an opposition,

Not with me nor the person with whom this first banter started about. It simply is pushing them further away fro your "hope"ful wish.