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isadore
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Jun 27, 2012 2:35pm
the abandonment implied choice
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Con_Alma
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Jun 27, 2012 2:36pm
...of which is required.isadore;1213111 wrote:the abandonment implied choice
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isadore
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Jun 27, 2012 2:47pm
and hopefully he may those choices and be redeemed while he is among us.
mcburg93
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Jun 27, 2012 2:49pm
Can we ban Isasoredickintheasslovescock from the basement. Fuck hes taking away from me saying gfy to more deserving people. WTF isadore go fuck a wolf or something. Leave already
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Con_Alma
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Jun 27, 2012 2:59pm
I wouldn't base optimism on a person's hope regarding this situation. I wish you luck, You might need it if you do.isadore;1213121 wrote:and hopefully he may those choices and be redeemed while he is among us.
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isadore
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Jun 27, 2012 3:10pm
hope springs eternal.
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Con_Alma
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Jun 27, 2012 3:20pm
The truth lies in the remainder of that quote from Alexander Pope.isadore;1213148 wrote:hope springs eternal.
"[LEFT]Hope springs eternal in the human breast: Man never is, but always To be Blest.
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isadore
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Jun 27, 2012 3:26pm
despite so many examples to the negative, we should be optimistic about man, approach them with eternal hope.
O-Trap
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Jun 27, 2012 3:27pm
Why?isadore;1213182 wrote:we should be optimistic about man
Raw Dawgin' it
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Jun 27, 2012 3:28pm
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Con_Alma
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Jun 27, 2012 3:29pm
The luck I wished you, you will need for it's not the optimism that bears the fruit of results but rather the action of man himself. Without that action, your desires of redemption are noting more than that, desires of one.
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isadore
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Jun 27, 2012 3:31pm
reasons from religion, reasons from humanity, and lastly because it would be too fucking depressing not to.O-Trap;1213183 wrote:Why?
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isadore
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Jun 27, 2012 3:37pm
hardly just the desires of one, people find joy in seeing others redeemed, my hope is that it is greater than the schadenfreude that many enjoy.Con_Alma;1213186 wrote:The luck I wished you, you will need for it's not the optimism that bears the fruit of results but rather the action of man himself. Without that action, your desires of redemption are noting more than that, desires of one.
Commander of Awesome
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Jun 27, 2012 3:38pm
gosh a fucking ruddies, there's still hope for salvaging your soul little guy.isadore;1213198 wrote:hardly just the desires of one, people find joy in seeing others redeemed, my hope is that it is greater than the schadenfreude that many enjoy.
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isadore
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Jun 27, 2012 3:40pm
a faint hope at best.
Commander of Awesome
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Jun 27, 2012 3:41pm
Gosh a ruddles, no hope with that attitude. Fallen into a deep depression I see.isadore;1213202 wrote:a faint hope at best.
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Con_Alma
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Jun 27, 2012 3:41pm
With regards to this particular instance, it is the desire of but one.isadore;1213198 wrote:hardly just the desires of one, people find joy in seeing others redeemed, my hope is that it is greater than the schadenfreude that many enjoy.
I haven't seen providence of those taking pleasure from others dismay as it relates to this topic. It is only action that will change it if it did truly exist.
Heretic
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Jun 27, 2012 3:42pm
Gosh a ruddies, he better turn that frown upside down and get all spiritual and shit or he'll be the next bath salt cannibal in no time. Livin' without god(s) does that to you!
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isadore
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Jun 27, 2012 3:44pm
"Fallen into a deep depression I see." gosh you are getting yodaish.Commander of Awesome;1213204 wrote:Gosh a ruddles, no hope with that attitude. Fallen into a deep depression I see.
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isadore
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Jun 27, 2012 3:46pm
it begins with individual choices and then move toward a more communal hope for the effort toward redemption.Con_Alma;1213206 wrote:With regards to this particular instance, it is the desire of but one.
I haven't seen providence of those taking pleasure from others dismay as it relates to this topic. It is only action that will change it if it did truly exist.
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isadore
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Jun 27, 2012 3:49pm
there is redemption for those of who reject theism. If they can move beyond selfishness, greed and bigotry they can be redeemed as human beings.Heretic;1213209 wrote:Gosh a ruddies, he better turn that frown upside down and get all spiritual and **** or he'll be the next bath salt cannibal in no time. Livin' without god(s) does that to you!
O-Trap
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Jun 27, 2012 3:49pm
isadore;1213191 wrote:reasons from religion, reasons from humanity, and lastly because it would be too fucking depressing not to.
Maybe the most depressing answer is the correct one.
Perhaps more Yoda-esque.isadore;1213212 wrote:"Fallen into a deep depression I see." gosh you are getting yodaish.
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isadore
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Jun 27, 2012 3:52pm
correct in what sense?O-Trap;1213220 wrote:Maybe the most depressing answer is the correct one.
Perhaps more Yoda-esque.
Thank you Yoda-esque is a better term for what I was trying to write.
O-Trap
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Jun 27, 2012 3:58pm
In that we actually shouldn't be optimistic.isadore;1213224 wrote:correct in what sense?
Anytime.isadore;1213224 wrote:Thank you Yoda-esque is a better term for what I was trying to write.
O-Trap
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Jun 27, 2012 3:59pm
I don't know if this was intended in the way I perceived it, but it made me lol, nonetheless.Raw Dawgin' it;1213184 wrote: