Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Dec 20, 2011 3:26pm
Why bother appealing to the same corrupt organization that just screwed you over?karen lotz;1022141 wrote:No appeal
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Dec 20, 2011 3:27pm
OSU won't crybaby for an appeal. They will take it like a man and then deliver pain and suffering to 12 deserving bitches next season.
thePITman
Posts: 3,867
Dec 20, 2011 3:29pm
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/ncaa/resources/latest+news/2011/december/ohio+state+cited+for+failure+to+monitor,+receives+postseason+ban
https://twitter.com/#!/PITmanStats/status/149222619491741696The penalties, some of which were self-imposed by the university and adopted by the committee, include:
- Public reprimand and censure.
- Three years of probation from Dec. 20, 2011, through Dec. 19, 2014. The public report contains further details on the conditions of this probation.
- Postseason ban for the 2012 football season, which includes the conference championship game.
- Reduction of football scholarships from 85 to 82 for each of the 2012-13, 2013-14 and 2014-15 academic years. This is an increase from the university’s proposal of five initial scholarships spread over three academic years.
- Vacation of all wins for the 2010 football regular season, including the 2010 Big Ten Conference co-championship and participation in the 2011 Sugar Bowl. The public report contains further details (self-imposed by the university).
- Forfeiture of $338,811, which is the amount the university received through the Big Ten Conference revenue sharing for its appearance in the bowl game (self-imposed by the university).
- Five-year show-cause order for the former head coach. The public report contains further details.
- Disassociation of the booster for 10 years, including among other conditions, the prohibition of any financial or other support (self-imposed by the university).
- Disassociation of a former student-athlete for five years, including among other conditions, the prohibition of any financial or other support (self-imposed by the university).
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OhioStatePride2003
Posts: 686
Dec 20, 2011 3:30pm
What boggles my mind is that the stupid piece of shit Rich Rod has gotten TWO schools placed on probation, yet he's able to take jobs like the one at Arizona and not have to face the consequences.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 20, 2011 3:33pm
OSU is held to the highest standard. If a recruit litters, we deserve the death penalty. If you want to be the premier academic and athletic institution on the planet, you have to be held to these standards.OhioStatePride2003;1022174 wrote:What boggles my mind is that the stupid piece of **** Rich Rod has gotten TWO schools placed on probation, yet he's able to take jobs like the one at Arizona and not have to face the consequences.
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Dec 20, 2011 3:37pm
One year bowl ban, huh?
Well, I guess I'll just add this to the long list of stuff sleeper told me to book that he was completely wrong on.
Well, I guess I'll just add this to the long list of stuff sleeper told me to book that he was completely wrong on.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Dec 20, 2011 3:39pm
Coach Cal ring a bell....OhioStatePride2003;1022174 wrote:What boggles my mind is that the stupid piece of shit Rich Rod has gotten TWO schools placed on probation, yet he's able to take jobs like the one at Arizona and not have to face the consequences.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 20, 2011 3:41pm
You can book this while you're at it. ND and OSU have the same chance to win a BCS bowl game next year. LOLsherm03;1022182 wrote:One year bowl ban, huh?
Well, I guess I'll just add this to the long list of stuff sleeper told me to book that he was completely wrong on.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 20, 2011 3:41pm
So the game against the skunkbears on 11/24/12 will be our bowl game, eh? :thumbup:
OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Dec 20, 2011 3:42pm
Dunn and Pittman say there are still buckeyes. Spence is the one to worry about. I think we keep everyone, but it may be hard to finish the class as strong as we were going to.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 20, 2011 3:44pm
If Spence leaves, he's not a winner and we don't want him. Let him go play for Notre Dame where he can rot his way to the NFL.OneBuckeye;1022205 wrote:Dunn and Pittman say there are still buckeyes. Spence is the one to worry about. I think we keep everyone, but it may be hard to finish the class as strong as we were going to.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 20, 2011 3:45pm
Obviously, I can't speak for recruits, but I know I would be willing to give up one year to make 3 straight runs at a National Championship. Spence's other option was Maryland, where he would likely never be on a top 10 team, let alone a NC contender.OneBuckeye;1022205 wrote:Dunn and Pittman say there are still buckeyes. Spence is the one to worry about. I think we keep everyone, but it may be hard to finish the class as strong as we were going to.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Dec 20, 2011 3:46pm
Or wind up dead.sleeper;1022208 wrote:If Spence leaves, he's not a winner and we don't want him. Let him go play for Notre Dame where he can rot his way to the NFL.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 20, 2011 3:46pm
Nobody's going anywhere--these kids want to play for Meyer, and they will.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 20, 2011 3:47pm
With BKs coaching experience, he'd probably think Spence's best ability would be to film the team on a windy day.Heretic;1022213 wrote:Or wind up dead.
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Dec 20, 2011 3:48pm
Rehashing the same joke twice...word for word...within the same afternoon? I thought someone as versed in the world of comedy as you would know that something like that is hacky.sleeper;1022194 wrote:You can book this while you're at it. ND and OSU have the same chance to win a BCS bowl game next year. LOL
And also, using your recent success of booked items​, I'll take this as good news for the Irish.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Dec 20, 2011 3:51pm
I don't get why a 1 year bowl ban would have much of an impact on future recruits.
It's too bad for the guys who are going to be seniors next year.
It's too bad for the guys who are going to be seniors next year.
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elbuckeye28
Posts: 919
Dec 20, 2011 3:52pm
I really don't think that these penalties are all that bad. I mean the one year bowl ban sucks, but considering how bad this entire situation was handled throughout, we could have gotten much worse.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Dec 20, 2011 3:53pm
I wonder what impact it will have on someone like Simon who could opt for the draft.Mulva;1022224 wrote:I don't get why a 1 year bowl ban would have much of an impact on future recruits.
It's too bad for the guys who are going to be seniors next year.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 20, 2011 3:54pm
It's not a joke its the truth and you know it. Despite playing a cake powderpuff schedule and all of ND nation predicting an undefeated season, they ended up with 4 losses(soon to be 5 with the inevitable bowl loss). Enjoy!sherm03;1022219 wrote:Rehashing the same joke twice...word for word...within the same afternoon? I thought someone as versed in the world of comedy as you would know that something like that is hacky.
And also, using your recent success of booked items​, I'll take this as good news for the Irish.
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elbuckeye28
Posts: 919
Dec 20, 2011 3:54pm
USC's recruiting hasn't been impacted too much, and they had much worse penalties.Mulva;1022224 wrote:I don't get why a 1 year bowl ban would have much of an impact on future recruits.
It's too bad for the guys who are going to be seniors next year.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 20, 2011 3:55pm
I agree, but I think a lot of this vitriol is because we were led to believe that there would be no bowl ban. Maybe it's our fault for seeing the glass as half full, but we should've known that the NCAA is bi-polar and that anything can, and DID, happen.elbuckeye28;1022225 wrote:I really don't think that these penalties are all that bad. I mean the one year bowl ban sucks, but considering how bad this entire situation was handled throughout, we could have gotten much worse.
OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Dec 20, 2011 3:55pm
Simon could go. and I would blame him. I kind of hope Howard goes. Stoney needs to stay. Urban's offense can up his draft stock the most.Al Bundy;1022229 wrote:I wonder what impact it will have on someone like Simon who could opt for the draft.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Dec 20, 2011 3:56pm
It doesn't to me anyway, so you miss a bowl game your freshman year, who gives a shit, you're playing at Ohio State under Urban Meyer.Mulva;1022224 wrote:I don't get why a 1 year bowl ban would have much of an impact on future recruits.
It's too bad for the guys who are going to be seniors next year.
There would have been a whooole lot of new precedents being set other than the one that just was.elbuckeye28;1022225 wrote:I really don't think that these penalties are all that bad. I mean the one year bowl ban sucks, but considering how bad this entire situation was handled throughout, we could have gotten much worse.
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Dec 20, 2011 3:57pm
I still think John Simon comes back next year.Al Bundy;1022229 wrote:I wonder what impact it will have on someone like Simon who could opt for the draft.