...and that guy was fired 7 months ago.

LJ;1022127 wrote:He kisses a Tebow picture every night before bed. What do you think?

and you neg rep me for trolling, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa:laugh::rolleyes:

Speedofsandyvag;1022703 wrote:I'm still really pissed that Urban betrayed us swampbillys down here in Florida

oh look...it's sandyvag

I'm only gonna bitch about this one time and then move on, it's over but the punishment does not fit the crime, no way in hell that OSU should have gotten a Bowl ban. The sad part is that if a Bowl ban was in order then this year should have been the year that they were banned, this years seniors were the ones who committed the wrong doings, now a group of guys who had nothing to do with any of this will have to pay the penalty for what happened while the guilty class gets to play in a Bowl their senior season. For this I first of all blame the NCAA for being so slow in rendering a verdict and now penalizing the innocent when if they gad given their decision just 3 weeks ago they could have punished the players who committed the offenses, secondly I blame Gene Smith and Gordon Gee for being so stupid that they thought no more penalties were coming. Ohio State self imposed a ton of other penalties they should have offered one more, to self impose a Bowl ban for this season.

OSU's bowl game in 2012 will be on November 24th. I believe that is the date.

I still feel the worst of the punishment was levied against Posey. 10 games was way too much for the crime. If that kid doesn't make it in the NFL, I'm going to find him a job at my company.

Anyway, I'm over the bowl ban. I really don't care. It's 1 game(well 2 because of the CC game). At the end of the day, Ohio State made a mistake and they deserve to be punished. It's a burden that OSU carries by trying to be the premier academic and athletic institution in the country. Champions play through adversity and champions play at Ohio State. We'll be fine, we got Urban, we'll still win, and the haters, they will still hate.

move on people...

They have given Ohio State 3 years of punishment for this whole thing. They took away the 2010 season by forcing it to be vacated, they took the 2011 season by suspending 5 key players, and they took away the 2012 season with the bowl ban. Without arguing whether or not this is the fair decision, I will argue that no major media outlet has reported this "spin" of the ruling and that bias is a shame.

gyea36;1022859 wrote:They have given Ohio State 3 years of punishment for this whole thing. They took away the 2010 season by forcing it to be vacated, they took the 2011 season by suspending 5 key players, and they took away the 2012 season with the bowl ban. Without arguing whether or not this is the fair decision, I will argue that no major media outlet has reported this "spin" of the ruling and that bias is a shame.

Could've all been over with in 2010, had Tressel not tried to hide it. Could've been over this season had several guys not continued to take money while the investigation/ruling was pending. What does bias have to do with it?

enigmaax;1022884 wrote:Could've all been over with in 2010, had Tressel not tried to hide it. Could've been over this season had several guys not continued to take money while the investigation/ruling was pending. What does bias have to do with it?

Tressel did the right thing. He lied to protect his players from getting involved in drug trafficking and didn't want to interfere with a federal investigation. He may have broken NCAA rules, sure, but in the end putting your players first is more important than a game and that is something a fan of an irrelevant stepping stone program(Florida) will never understand.

sleeper;1022896 wrote:Tressel did the right thing. He lied to protect his players from getting involved in drug trafficking and didn't want to interfere with a federal investigation. He may have broken NCAA rules, sure, but in the end putting your players first is more important than a game and that is something a fan of an irrelevant stepping stone program(Florida) will never understand.

That is nice you feel that way. Doesn't change the fact that the drawn-out consequences are a direct result of Tressel/player actions. Has nothing to do with NCAA or media bias or trying to prove a point.

enigmaax;1022929 wrote:That is nice you feel that way. Doesn't change the fact that the drawn-out consequences are a direct result of Tressel/player actions. Has nothing to do with NCAA or media bias or trying to prove a point.

Nothing to do with media bias?

South Carolina just admitted to major violations, where's 1200 articles talking about how they should fire their coach and they deserve the death penalty. We never heard anything regarding Georgia Tech or Boise until the penalties were actually levied. ESPN ignored USC until it was apparent they were going to be punished. North Carolina is clouded in mystery, and while Miami had a couple articles in the beginning, ZILCH.

There's a huge media bias involved against Ohio State. Like I said, enjoy your stepping stone of a program.

sleeper;1022967 wrote:Nothing to do with media bias?

South Carolina just admitted to major violations, where's 1200 articles talking about how they should fire their coach and they deserve the death penalty. We never heard anything regarding Georgia Tech or Boise until the penalties were actually levied. ESPN ignored USC until it was apparent they were going to be punished. North Carolina is clouded in mystery, and while Miami had a couple articles in the beginning, ZILCH.

There's a huge media bias involved against Ohio State. Like I said, enjoy your stepping stone of a program.

It's not a media bias in the sense that ESPN is against Ohio State and hates them. That is a silly thought. If that were the case, Ohio State wouldn't be shown on ESPN, and Gameday wouldn't come to Ohio State games.

The only "bias" is because Ohio State has a huge fan base (as well as a huge base of fans that dislike them), and stories like these means more money in terms of page views, hits, ratings, etc. ESPN just capitalized on OSU's fanbase and kept feeding the fire because they knew it meant more money for them. I'm sorry, but none of the schools that you mention has a fan base (or anti-fan base) as large as Ohio State. Those stories don't bring in the money like stories about Ohio State does.

And if I'm not mistaken, much of the hype came from stories dug up by The Dispatch. So unless there is some sort of media bias IN COLUMBUS, some of you are just sounding silly.

Next year,win every game on the schedule in convincing fashion,then win the big ten title,then say,YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHING YET!

sherm03;1022989 wrote:It's not a media bias in the sense that ESPN is against Ohio State and hates them. That is a silly thought. If that were the case, Ohio State wouldn't be shown on ESPN, and Gameday wouldn't come to Ohio State games.

The only "bias" is because Ohio State has a huge fan base (as well as a huge base of fans that dislike them), and stories like these means more money in terms of page views, hits, ratings, etc. ESPN just capitalized on OSU's fanbase and kept feeding the fire because they knew it meant more money for them. I'm sorry, but none of the schools that you mention has a fan base (or anti-fan base) as large as Ohio State. Those stories don't bring in the money like stories about Ohio State does.

And if I'm not mistaken, much of the hype came from stories dug up by The Dispatch. So unless there is some sort of media bias IN COLUMBUS, some of you are just sounding silly.

So bias in terms of self serving over exposure isn't bias?

gotcha

sleeper;1022967 wrote:Nothing to do with media bias?

South Carolina just admitted to major violations, where's 1200 articles talking about how they should fire their coach and they deserve the death penalty. We never heard anything regarding Georgia Tech or Boise until the penalties were actually levied. ESPN ignored USC until it was apparent they were going to be punished. North Carolina is clouded in mystery, and while Miami had a couple articles in the beginning, ZILCH.

There's a huge media bias involved against Ohio State. Like I said, enjoy your stepping stone of a program.

Great, not really relevant, but great observation.

The penalties handed out to Ohio State and the timing of such has nothing to do with a media bias. The fact that the media hasn't adopted the angle of the penalties (as discussed by gyea above) is because there's no story to it. OSU had chances to limit the impact and fucked up over and over again.

As mentioned, those news outlets report on what is going to bring the business. There is also the fact that OSU (and its fans) had put itself and its coach on such a pedestal, that naturally when they were exposed as frauds there was going to be interest. Nobody cares when a trucker hires a prostitute, but when a TV evangelist does, it is gonna be news. Why? Because the whole image was a lie. Just like OSU's.

But hey, be glad that OSU finally sold its soul, right? I'm sure it will be a trmendous self-worth boost for you when the guy you hate wins a game to which you have no connection.

enigmaax;1023030 wrote:Great, not really relevant, but great observation.

The penalties handed out to Ohio State and the timing of such has nothing to do with a media bias. The fact that the media hasn't adopted the angle of the penalties (as discussed by gyea above) is because there's no story to it. OSU had chances to limit the impact and ****ed up over and over again.

As mentioned, those news outlets report on what is going to bring the business. There is also the fact that OSU (and its fans) had put itself and its coach on such a pedestal, that naturally when they were exposed as frauds there was going to be interest. Nobody cares when a trucker hires a prostitute, but when a TV evangelist does, it is gonna be news. Why? Because the whole image was a lie. Just like OSU's.

But hey, be glad that OSU finally sold its soul, right? I'm sure it will be a trmendous self-worth boost for you when the guy you hate wins a game to which you have no connection.

Ah, interesting perspective although not unique. There are tons of stepping stone universities in which coaches leave to go to a much better program. Never would have guessed a program as large as Florida would have the shame of being a stepping stone, must suck. LOL

ytownfootball;1023029 wrote:So bias in terms of self serving over exposure isn't bias?

gotcha

Apparently not. It sucks when you are a dominant program, people are going to hate you because you are good. In this case, its nice to be hated. Hate on, we'll keep winning.

bi·as (bs)n.1. A line going diagonally across the grain of fabric: Cut the cloth on the bias.
2. a. A preference or an inclination, especially one that inhibits impartial judgment.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7373708/ncaa-sends-message-sanctions-ohio-state-buckeyes

Ohio State's penalties put a serious dent in the momentum it gained after hiring Meyer, who led Florida to BCS national championships in 2006 and '08. Over the last few weeks, Meyer received verbal commitments from three of the country's top high school prospects and was on his way to assembling what he called the "best coaching staff in the country."

All speculation geared toward the negative side of The Ohio State University.

ytownfootball;1023058 wrote:bi·as (bs)n.1. A line going diagonally across the grain of fabric: Cut the cloth on the bias.
2. a. A preference or an inclination, especially one that inhibits impartial judgment.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7373708/ncaa-sends-message-sanctions-ohio-state-buckeyes




All speculation geared toward the negative side of The Ohio State University.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee925OTFBCA&t=14s

ytownfootball;1023029 wrote:So bias in terms of self serving over exposure isn't bias?

gotcha

Did I say that? I'm sorry, I thought I said...

sherm03;1022989 wrote:It's not a media bias in the sense that ESPN is against Ohio State and hates them....
The only "bias" is because Ohio State has a huge fan base...

Oh wait...that's what I did say.

Nowhere did I say there wasn't a bias involved. I just said that the mentality that ESPN is out to get OSU and hates them is not true. If it were, OSU would not get ANY exposure on the network.

Hamler Bulldogs;1023015 wrote:Next year,win every game on the schedule in convincing fashion,then win the big ten title,then say,YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHING YET!

lol they can't play in the B1G champ game.

karen lotz;1023059 wrote:yeah I got no rebuttal

prove that there isn't

Hamler Bulldogs;1023015 wrote:Next year,win every game on the schedule in convincing fashion,then win the big ten title,then say,YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHING YET!

Just like that.

sherm03;1023065 wrote: Nowhere did I say there wasn't a bias involved. I just said that the mentality that ESPN is out to get OSU and hates them is not true. If it were, OSU would not get ANY exposure on the network.

You can't try to tell me that ONLY a bias against Ohio State would result in NO coverage at all. That is just flat out stupid. The real start of the tendency against Ohio State began with the emergence of the B1G network for what I assume is obvious reasons, and with Ohio State's success and flagship university status, they bear the brunt of that tendency. You can continue to be naive all you want, it doesn't matter to me, but try not to prove your point with hyperbole and conjecture. I provided an example that just occured yesterday, posted just hours after the announcement. Hardly enough time to evaluate whether or not "a dent" has been made or whether he "was" on his way...you have to agree that that is ESPin at it's finest.